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Sorry I meant my tree has 80mm Diameter not circumference probably should measure that too.

Cassowary nah I haven’t tried spraying anything on it yet.  The soil Is starting to get drier and I don’t water the trees at all so will see what happens.

Placobutrazol is used in SE Asia to bring on early flowers. It is also used widely in the mango industry in Australia. Don’t know how good it is for your soil though using it long term…..

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Peter your "isla" tree sounds awsome I would love to get that here in australia, I have heard from others who have tasted your isla who rate it highly as well.

Cassowary Iknow its not apple and apple comparison because you are talking about seedling tree but my biggest grafted tree P88 (D178) is 3 years old and i measured the trunk diameter the other day at approx 150mm above graft union as done on the zappala study (so not the base) and it is 80mm. The tree has some thick laterals which i didn't measure but can if you want because i have topped the tree multiple times sometimes quite severely it is only about 2 metres tall.  Im still hopeful of getting some flowers before the wet season but could be wishful thinking time will tell.

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Hi Kona fruit farm, any update on this project? Any interesting findings so far?

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1. Durian
2. Durian
3. Durian
4. Durian
5. Durian

If forced to choose something other than durian

1.Durian
2. Rambutan
3.mangosteen
4. Mango
5. Abiu (outrageously productive year round)

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Here in Australia, Kensington Pride is the preferred variety, and is the most planted.
Is Kensington Pride (Bowen) a thing in Florida?

Is KP a commercially available fruit in OZ or is it more of tree that people plant in their yards? I have noticed the fruits are usually on the smaller side here. seems for production they aren’t the best type and a farmer would be shooting themselves in the foot for planting a large grove of them over a more productive variety.

I’m surprised more people in FL aren’t growing r2e2, while it’s a popular variety in HI. I know it’s not the best flavor but when I eat one, I’m amazed how much there is to eat. Late season, production is good, fruits are huge and they have a mild peach flavor which is enjoyable

Ben KP is the most commerical mango in Australia by a million miles. It performs well in the dry climates where it is grown, preforms poorly in wet areas like where i live.  There are many descendents of KP of which Honey Gold is one and is commercial here and is superior to KP in my view.  R2E2 are also a popular commercial variety however the ones at the supermarkets are picked way too early and not a good representation of them. When eaten tree ripened they are excellent in my view.

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Here in Australia, Kensington Pride is the preferred variety, and is the most planted.
Is Kensington Pride (Bowen) a thing in Florida?

Rob to answer your question no KP is not a thing in Florida, Americans don't rate KP mostly if you read through this forum. There is a huge cultural element here and Aussies generally like our mangoes and the Thai SE asian ones Maha, NDM etc

Do American Mangoes taste different?
If so, how?

Yeh mate the old Florida varieties that we have in Australia such as keitt, kent, pearl, Palmer, brooks etc all have a chemical aftertaste which I believe is referred to as turpentine taste in America. Aussies don’t seem to like it. In saying that I have a Palmer tree because of the beautiful colour of the fruits and productivity of trees around here.

There are the new Zill varieties which some are in Australia however very few reports on them.

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Here in Australia, Kensington Pride is the preferred variety, and is the most planted.
Is Kensington Pride (Bowen) a thing in Florida?

Rob to answer your question no KP is not a thing in Florida, Americans don't rate KP mostly if you read through this forum. There is a huge cultural element here and Aussies generally like our mangoes and the Thai SE asian ones Maha, NDM etc

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cassowary great question and I think you are correct with your thinking,  I have a grafted tree that must be a bit over 100mm trunk girth I was really really hoping for flowers in the recent dry spell but so far none. I see a seedling tree up the road with trunk girth of 150-200mm and it doesn't have flowers either.

Seems there is plenty of flowers on trees around cairns.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Bananas.org dead?
« on: July 15, 2024, 06:17:09 PM »
This is the only hobby I have where a live forum still exists, many of my other hobbies forums were killed years ago by Facebook groups, however now nearly all the Facebook groups are also dead and I have no idea where everyone goes now. This forum is such a great resource Facebook groups never has the same search ability and a lot of info is lost. Such a shame many of my other hobbies forums were kiled by Facebook and now Facebook has been killed and now there is no modern info anywhere anymore very sad

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Not enough Durian Discussion
« on: June 16, 2024, 02:40:39 AM »
My red prawn is about to die same as my D190 neither have grown a single leaf in 18months, seems rootstock is very important with durian. A few others who got trees from same source have also had trees die. I’m done with buying expensive grafted trees. I think cassowary and other growers in the area who only use seedlings are onto it. Some of the grafted trees do good here and are mostly Thai varieties.

Mike interesting on your comments re p88 and Monthong and gumpun a few years back you favoured p88 over these Thai types

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: American durian farmer in Thailand
« on: June 12, 2024, 10:30:46 PM »
Peter I also looked up the climate data for where Terry is at in Thailand and came up with similar figures just over 1000mm of rain a year in average WOW !!!!’ That’s damn dry I average 3 x that with some years 5x that. I would think they must get excellent flower and fruit set that with that sort of climate probably ideal really as long as you have irrigation sorted.

I don’t have any irrigation set up here at all.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Not enough Durian Discussion
« on: June 09, 2024, 05:54:29 PM »
Peter a kradumthong was fruited here recently at 760m In nth qld think that’s about 2500ft pretty impressive at 17 south

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: American durian farmer in Thailand
« on: June 09, 2024, 01:41:29 AM »
Great post mate thanks for that I follow Terry on YouTube he is great. And he is on the money with choosing the correct varieties for your environment we have found similar here in Australia some clones are doing excellent and some very poorly and the general trend is the same from most people I talk too. Seedlings generally do the best however.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Artocarpus lanceifolius
« on: June 07, 2024, 04:08:03 PM »
Bump anyone know anything about if Keledang will
Set fruit on its own ?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Artocarpus lanceifolius
« on: June 05, 2024, 06:17:08 PM »
Do you need two of these for cross pollination? I only have one young tree

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Bumping this back up durian lovers comments are very concerning for all of us in the tropics re zill mangos.

What about ppk has anyone tried growing this in the wet tropics? As I understand this came from Cambodia maybe more similar climate to us in the tropics than the zill mangoes.

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Some great info Mike thanks.

Sorry to derail topic.

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Mike most of the info on this forum re chempedak is old from old posts of yours would be good to update with your thoughts on the best chempedaks around today in 2024? Maybe I should start a new thread. I have a twisted chempedak from your brother and also one of unknown heritage from Trina at fff. I know zappalas have supposedly the best chempedak in the world “flaming red” ? I have never seen trees of these for sale anywhere will continue to look. Have also seen “durian” chempedak trees floating around not sure where these fit in also Lepoard ?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Thai mango taste?!
« on: May 08, 2024, 06:12:51 AM »
Mike i now know the hydrocarbon taint you talk about after trying keitt and Palmer mangos this year…… Florida folk don’t seem to mind some chemical taste but I will take Aussie and Thai mangos any day of the week especially maha.

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Yep anything outside a climate control green house forget about it. I’m just near 16degrees from equator and I have had two young durian trees loose all their leaves durian a cold snap almost 2 years ago and the trees are still struggling to recover. This was two nights of 8.9 and 8.4 C. Not sure what this is in Fahrenheit but sure It’s way above so cal or Florida minimums.

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@ Kona fruit farm is there any chance for an update on your durian orchard? I recall you planting many seedlings from very good varieties many years ago

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / WTB mamey “pace” seeds
« on: April 26, 2024, 06:35:12 AM »
As the title suggests. Is anyone willing to ship some seeds to Australia ?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Zill Mango advice for wet tropics Qld
« on: April 02, 2024, 07:49:18 PM »
David h thats some good mango advice there, i think though that the climate up there at ravenshoe is far less wet than where fruit nerd is (near me). I recorded 4201mm of rain from December to march for this wet season which would far far exceed anything up on the tableands.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Zill Mango advice for wet tropics Qld
« on: March 31, 2024, 09:26:39 PM »
Mick a guy down in nth nsw has grown orange sherbert, lemon zest, fruit punch and a few others likely from same source as everyone else. He is cutting his fruit punch tree out as it is junk. He also taste tested lemon zest against kp and I think honey gold with a few of his friends and I think out of the whole group only one person rated Lemon zest as superior to kp.

He says orange sherbert seems to produce decent fruit but they are not hyped up like discussed on this forum. I would say there is a huge cultural element here with Americans growing up with different mangos to us.

People in the US even rate keitt and Palmer etc
Over KP these have strong chemical taste which mike t has described on past threads and I agree with him 100%.

Maha and honey gold are hard to beat

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Aggressive rambutan pruning
« on: March 23, 2024, 05:56:50 PM »
Mick my mate in whyanbeel did something similar to this with a few if his giant rambutan trees he pruned them back to a stump. The trees responded with vigorous growth which he now keeps on top of but they certainly take regular maintenance rambutan are such good growers here

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