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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Zygotic Poncirus hybrids
« on: Today at 05:54:19 PM »
Is the J root the ones that start curled up then loops downwards?

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Zygotic Poncirus hybrids
« on: Today at 01:03:17 PM »
When I transplanted the FD seedlings in my photo above, I did notice many, almost half of the seedlings were poly, more than one stem growing from one seed.

Here's a few photos I took of the poly seeds.Can anyone tell me which one of the poly seedling will be the clone of the parent FD.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Loquat ripening in February ?
« on: February 05, 2023, 08:11:07 PM »
Brian, my Christmas loquat always seems to get ripe with the others in April-June here. My KT9-Lindsey sometimes has two ripening times, once in May, and second in November.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Loquat ripening in February ?
« on: February 05, 2023, 03:18:50 PM »
Florida must be 2-3 months earlier than CA.

TnTrobbie, what is the Turkey loquat? I have never heard of that variety. Do you know if the flesh is orange or white? How is the taste?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Loquat ripening in February ?
« on: February 05, 2023, 02:40:27 PM »
I'm in SoCal and have one seedling loquat tree that is fruiting now, and it has some ripe fruits in February. I tasted a few ripe fruits, and it was sweet.

Anyone else have early ripening loquats on their trees?

All my other loquat varieties (80+) have green fruits, but none have ripened this early. 

Ok, that would be great, I read some good things about Campbell. I will definitely send you a message in fall for a trade.

I have a few more new seedling varieties (fruits, tastes good) so getting my collection back up slowly(25).

I'm interested in buying the following white sapote cuttings:

1. Fairhaven -JF seedling tree of Suebelle
2. Grand - seedling of McDill
3. Sunset
4. Rainbow

I may be able to trade a few cuttings from my Super Sweet or Younghan's Gold.
If you know any nursery that carries any of them, please let me know.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lychee grafted onto Longan?
« on: February 04, 2023, 09:53:36 PM »
I agree, it is much easier for me to graft any variety on my large Brewster tree, then air layer that branch to take it off to a separate pot. I've got 10 air layers started, now that I know how to do it better than the first time tried air layers (3 out of 12 good).

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Gold nugget self destruction
« on: February 03, 2023, 09:09:15 PM »
You might want to pick some of the ripe fruits instead of leaving it on so long. Your tree is still not that large. Fruits will not be ripe until end of Feb/Mar but that's too many to leave on that tree.

Tortuga, ok, thank you for the insight on the Ugli fruit taste. I will need to go ahead and get the real one and graft onto my larger Oroblanco tree (multi-grafted tree) so that I can taste the fruit.

I might as well try adding the NZ grapefruit (poorman's) when I get the two varieties of Ugli fruits.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Honey Pomelo seedlings
« on: February 03, 2023, 02:34:41 AM »
Plantinyum, yes it could be due to shade from the vine and other trees. My large in ground loquat trees are 20 ft tall and I have many of them growing next to this pomelo tree and other citrus trees.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lychee grafted onto Longan?
« on: February 02, 2023, 07:00:53 PM »
I grafted 3 NMT varieties on my longan and they were growing good for 2 years, even had flowers and small fruits which i removed. Now only 1 surviving NMT on the longan and it hasn't grown much since the first year with fruits. I'm giving up on grafting lychee to longan, waste of time. I should have focused on grafting all the NMT varieties onto the big lychee tree I have. Now you can't get any lychee scionwood from the GRIN-germplasm in Hawaii.

I have no problem with any grafts on my lychee tree so I will stick to that. I only have one NMT vareity grafted on the lychee tree and it is still growing fine, but it grows very slow. I recently grafted some Sweetheart lychee from two sources (Ken, Son) and those grafts are doing well. In 2 yrs the Sweetheart, Maurituis (Frank), Seedless(Max) has grown about 12 inches. The largest growth was on the Sweetheart, some grafts are now 3 ft long. All have flowers and should have fruits this year.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Honey Pomelo seedlings
« on: February 02, 2023, 05:59:01 PM »
Nop, the leaves are from the large tree you see above with the green fruits hanging. I just picked the largest one I saw and took some photos.

This year the tree is completely covered over by a passion fruit vine so I need to cut out the vine so my pomelo can get some sun light.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Honey Pomelo seedlings
« on: February 02, 2023, 02:23:12 PM »
I wanted to show you my Chinese pomelo parent (Roy's) fruit leaves. It is not a Honey pomelo, but it is supposed to be a variety of pure pomelo from China. My tree is over 15yrs old now, and the leaves are the largest of all my pomelos/pummelos or any other citrus I grow. Also fruits tastes excellent.

Does anyone have any other citrus tree with a larger leaf? I would like to know since this one is the largest leaf I have seen on a tree. Must be a world's record.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: February 02, 2023, 02:09:57 PM »
Very nice to see that you can get cuttings to grow.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: February 02, 2023, 02:07:38 PM »
Reedo, wow, nice photos and plants. You grafted tree really did well for one year growth.

Did you say it takes 2 yrs for the seeds to germinate to the size you show in the photo? It sure takes a long time to grow. I'm planning to try both cracked seed and untouched seed germination to see if cracking the seeds open will shorten the time for it to start growing out.

Ronnie Demler is the person on Facebook that wrote a nice 10 page PDF paper on how he germinates the yangmei seeds (written in Jan 2020). Here's the facbook link below with the document.

I agree with you on the grafting, no different than any other grafting like citrus, lychee. One interesting thing I noticed about how they graft all these bare root trees we got is that they are all veneer grafts. So, for those people who wanted to know the trick, just copy their technique. I haven't had good scion wood to do the grafting on myrica californica rootstock until now so this time I will do a lot of grafting. Problem is, there are not that many sources for the rootstock, all out of stock since many people are buying them up.

To answer your question on NZ lemonaide and Sanbokan. The Sanbokan is the vigorous grower, much larger fruits and if you like the taste, I would not bother with NZ lemonaide. 

Tortuga, yup, you're correct, good eye. I got this small, grafted plant long time ago from the Greenscene plant sale here. It was labeled as Ugli, but it never had fruits that looked like it. I don't know what it is, but it doesn't taste that good, and fruits are always small.

One of these days, I wanted to graft a real Ugli scionwood from UCR/CCPP budwood but from reading some descriptions, it doesn't sound like a great tasting fruit. Have you tasted the Ugli fruit and is it worth me grafting a real scionwood?

I just have too many varieties now and not sure if I want to graft the Poorman's Grapefruit or Ugli on this small tree. My grafted tree has been in ground for over 10yrs and it is still only 6 ft tall with skinny branches like a key lime tree. I'm thinking of grafting more Kishu mandarins since they are very productive and fruits are sweet and seedless. I only have a small grafted Kishu so I might make this tree a dedicated (only one variety) Kishu.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Honey Pomelo seedlings
« on: February 01, 2023, 06:07:07 AM »
Some updates on the pomelo fruits I tasted this past week.

I have purchased many Honey pomelos now, trying to find some seeds in the fruits of the Red and White variety. I did find more seeds of the Red fruit and only a few of the White fruit that I'm planting now. After buying all these fruits (12), I did some taste comparisons to my other fruits that are large and here's where I would rate their flavor and taste. Best tasting =1.

1. My seedling Roy pomelo (brix =18)
2. Thong Dee
3. Locally grown Honey pomelo -white flesh (brix =18)
4. Reinking pomelo (brix =17)
5. Red Honey pomelo (from market) - (brix =12)
6. White Honey pomelo (from market) - (brix =10)

So far, the largest fruits have been the Thong Dee (5 lbs) and store-bought Honey pomelo (5 lbs).

Citrus General Discussion / Re: kishu is very much worthwhile
« on: February 01, 2023, 06:00:12 AM »
i agree with you Brian, I really like the small kishu fruits, easy to peel, always seedless and can just eat the whole fruit at once.  My kishu doesn't give much fruits sometimes so I'm grafting more now on all my trees so I can get more of these fruits. I like the meiwa, nagami, marumi kumquats as well for small size fruits but I don't seem to get a lot of fruits on these kumquats since they are in pots.

This is a photo of a friends Kishu tree, my goal is to get one of my trees to look like it with hundreds of fruits.

Update, now that is has been a few years since this post was active, I can give you some updates on my white sapote fruits.

I have now tasted the following fruits:
1. McDill
2. Yellow Sapote (from Arboretum)
3. Younghan's Gold
4. Super sweet
5. Cuccio
6. Suebelle
7. Vernon

My favorite so far on this list is from best to worst.
1. Younghan's Gold
2.  McDill
3. Cuccio
4. Vernon
5. Super Sweet

I have the following flowers/fruits on my grafts this year, so I hope to add to the list of fruits I tasted this year.
1. Clytia (from Jack)
2. Younghan's Gold
3. Super Sweet
4. Vernon
5. Butterscotch (AJ)
6. Bonita Springs
7. Vernon
8. Nettie
9. Mary Lane (ML)
10. Yellow Sapote seedling (Arboretum)

Matti, I mentioned it above but maybe it wasn't clear. I ate both the McDill and yellow sapote fruits from the Fullerton Arboretum for the first time. Then I needed to get some more fruits so I could grow the seedlings. I planted about 3 seeds from each fruits of McDill and yellow sapote (had no name on the label) and after 5 yrs the trees were large enough to graft onto the 34 varities of white sapote on the largest seedling tree. I eventually had to remove the big seedling tree and it died when I transpanted it so now I'm down to 25 varieties on my two smaller seedling trees.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Citrangequat(but Meiwa)
« on: January 30, 2023, 10:12:14 AM »
I do notice that Nagami grows strong, has tons of fruits, but Meiwa is a slow grower, doesn't have a many fruits as Nagami so they probably used the strong variety.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best time to graft loquat?
« on: January 30, 2023, 10:04:12 AM »
I don't know about grafting season varying with rootstock. The only rootstock to use is loquat seedlings and quince seedlings that I know of. You can use quince to keep the grafted tree small. I only use loquat rootstock so my answer is no, it can be grafted any time of the year.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Honey Pomelo seedlings
« on: January 30, 2023, 09:28:07 AM »
Here's one of my seedling pummelo variety, these plants are about 6-8wks old. This is the seeds from my very good tasting seedling tree (Roy's pummelo). This fruit tastes better than most of the UCR pummelo (except for Thong Dee). Also has much more flavor and sweetness (very little tartness) than the white flesh Honey pummelo from the stores.

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