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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit forest videos
« on: March 11, 2024, 12:47:34 PM »
I third Virginia fruit grower lol. Aspiring to post more but have very little space, thus, not much to post  :'(. My youtube: www.youtube.com/@midwestfruitjungle

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best Self Fertile Sapodilla
« on: March 09, 2024, 08:09:02 PM »
I have heard butterscotch and Silas woods are both self fertile. Don’t have much experience but my Silas woods flowers and sets fruit often, but I thin them because my tree is super small.

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does anyone have any recommendations for prolific pot producers?

Eugenias all do very well in containers, but not everyone likes them. I have a lemon guava that fruits prolifically, even indoors.

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It really just looks like Phyllosticta minima. I’ll have to tell the other staff to hold back on the watering. I just repotted it in 50 peat 50 perlite and some bark for extra drainage, but the greenhouse is watered every day so it may be making it worse now that it’s in more soil. Thanks for the advice!

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There are these purple spots on some of the leaves and more have been showing up slowly. There are a lot of temperature swings in the greenhouse but there isn’t full sun.




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Awesome. Thanks for all of the recommendations! I have some time before I need them but I wanted a heads start.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Any good inexpensive but effective grow lights?
« on: February 21, 2024, 07:02:16 PM »
Currently moving into an apartment and, there aren’t exactly floor to ceiling south facing windows. Anyone have any suggestions for discrete indoor grow lights that would give my trees a little help during winter without looking like an industrial grower.

I had some cheap Amazon strip lights but almost all of my plants in the grow tent stopped growing And even started dropping leaves so I took them out. Any recommendations are appreciated!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sooty Mold, Pests, and Treatments
« on: February 20, 2024, 01:09:04 PM »
I work at a tropical greenhouse, and although the pesticides work, what keeps things under control is more physical maintaining. Spraying with the jet and pruning, as well as identifying the plants that are magnets to pests. The issue is too if you use pesticides, you can’t use natural predators either. Usually it’s not a 1 fixes all solution. At the greenhouse, we use safari 20 SG insecticide, neem and all the above practices. 

I promise an aphid isn’t writing this, but having a goal for perfectly pest free isn’t the right mindset, as pests indicate tree health, lack of predators etc.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Anyone post plants on instagram?
« on: October 02, 2023, 12:58:18 PM »
@midwestfruitjungle 
Haven't been able to post much, I have been finishing up my Health Science degree  :'(

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it looks like some kind of burning, whether chemical or temperature-wise. Make sure that they don't dry out, but don't get overwatered. Make sure too they have consistent conditions. Preventing as much stress as possible is helpful to recovering trees. I would look for new growth, or if the new growth nodes are healthy. Hopefully, it flushes out new leaves and drops those burnt ones.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Ultimate potted plant food forest?
« on: July 28, 2023, 11:17:37 PM »
Annonas can do alright in containers, I wouldn't recommend inga as they grow really fast. There are so many myrtles out there (eugenias, plinias, syzygium) that all do awesome in containers. I have heard artocarpus can be containerized well too.

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I get it bro, especially growing in the Midwest it can be challenging with a lot of plants. I focus on new growth and fresher leaves because trees often will drop older or slightly damaged leaves if they can afford it. As long as you have healthy new growth, it's most likely alright.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Hunt for the best Surinam Cherry
« on: May 12, 2023, 12:45:25 PM »
I got my first 2 flowers on my black Surinam cherry in 2018 as a small seedling from 9waters. The tree is only about 1 foot tall and was holding a fruit but it got knocked off while moving outside :(. The leaves have no resinous smell which is a good sign. Hopefully it flowers again soon

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I have noticed my acerola puts out gobs of flowers and fruit during the winter and early spring, and then during the drier end of summer. It seems like a little stress helps get it to fruit.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherry of Rio grande no fruits
« on: May 03, 2023, 12:29:50 PM »
Eugenia fruit set can be finicky in general. It can really help to have as many cross pollinating trees as possible.

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They look like aphids. When I use organic horticultural soap, it takes them out in one spray. Neem and castile soap would work well too.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Transitioning indoor trees outside
« on: May 03, 2023, 12:24:33 PM »
Its so frustrating living in a colder climate, moving all your trees out, and then a freak snow storm coming out of nowhere. It is probably best to wait till it is consistent and put them in full shade, slowly moving them to a sunnier spot. My peanutbutter fruit defoliated but has new growth, so I will be doing it right this time lol.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Transitioning indoor trees outside
« on: April 19, 2023, 01:23:04 PM »
Just my experience, in Idaho, and others may have different ideas.

Personally, I wouldn't put them out until the outside low equals about 10-15 degrees lower than your inside temps.

Then full shade for a while. Indoors, even with lights, the light level is way lower than outdoor shade. Only let them have early morning or late afternoon sun for at least a couple of weeks.  Trees respond to light changes much more slowly than veggies. Unless by "indoors" you mean a greenhouse, then you can subject them to more light faster.

I used to bring mine in and out of the greenhouse, but twice a year shock was just too hard on most things, other than figs, which are indestructible.


Good luck!
Carolyn

Thanks. I think I will wait then till the temperatures are consistent and find a shady spot for them.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Transitioning indoor trees outside
« on: April 19, 2023, 12:59:53 PM »
Hey everybody. I am looking to move my trees outdoors and get them acclimated to the outside, but I am unsure how cold many of them can handle. I read a lot of articles about how they can handle frosts, but I obviously don't want to stress them out. What is a minimum nighttime temperature for things like acerola, eugenias and plinia that will acclimate them without stressing them too much?

Our forecast calls for around 50 as a low at night and then 30 this weekend. 

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Thats awesome. Looking forward to seeing how the other ones turn out. I think it would be interesting to see how other Eugenias may cross as well. Eugenias have a lot of potential. Let us now when you have seeds!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Variegated Grumichama?
« on: December 21, 2022, 09:46:32 AM »
Definitely hold on to it. Quarantine and wait. If it’s mosaic virus it will kill it, but if it states healthy it’s variegation. The fact that it sprouted like that makes me think variation, as mosiac virus will change the plant from solid leaves to “variegated” looking leaves.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Hunt for the best Surinam Cherry
« on: December 21, 2022, 09:40:27 AM »
Does the aroma of the crushed leaves indicate the resin flavor intensity? I had 2 pitangas with one that had very resinous smelling leaves and the other with no leaf smell. The resinous leaf died, and I still have the non-resinous smelling one. Neither fruited, though I am expecting fruit from the one I have this year.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tropical Fruit Forum Grower Database
« on: October 28, 2022, 11:24:33 PM »
I am wondering, if we write a plant down at one point, and it starts fruiting, would it make sense to do another submission for that plant?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tropical Fruit Forum Grower Database
« on: October 28, 2022, 11:23:33 PM »
I am wondering, if we write a plant down at one point, and it starts fruiting, would it make sense to do another submission for that plant?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Papaya leaf curl virus?
« on: October 28, 2022, 08:52:00 AM »
The papaya I grew was also a Hawaiian variety, and being in northern Indiana, it makes me think that it was infected as a seed. Not too sure tho.

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