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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: mango owais ???,
« on: February 23, 2024, 11:57:10 AM »
You probably have Ewais. This info is from www.TropicalAcresFarms.com:

"Ewais is from Egypt, originating in the area near the Suez Canal and was named after an Egyptian minister. It is a small, ovate-shaped yellow fruit with a fiberless flesh and exceptionally sweet flavor that surprises those who have never tried it. The fruit are very prone to post-harvest anthracnose, but resistant to bacterial spot.  The seed is very thin and small, and polyembryoic.
 
The tree is non-precocious, and takes a while to start producing. It has a medium vigor, upright growth habit with dense canopy and may struggle to flower some years in the climate of south Florida. When it does flower though it sets a lot of fruit and makes very nice crops.
Ewais is a mid-season cultivar and ripens mostly in July here. We feel this variety might perform well in southern California due to its lack of precocity and growth habit.
 
Flavor: Egyptian/Indochinese
Country: Egypt"

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: When is best to plant out my mango?
« on: February 21, 2024, 07:52:38 AM »
Just make sure the root ball doesn't dry out, and you should be fine. I overwater as an insurance policy, for a newly planted tree.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: When is best to plant out my mango?
« on: February 20, 2024, 12:17:03 PM »
This is what I do, and it works well for me: I dig only a shallow hole, 3 - 4 inches deep, and then try to chop the dirt up a little, and amend with some good soil mix. Then, I water both the potted tree and the hole, soaking them both. Then wait about 15 minutes, and place the rootball on top of you natural soil and dirt mix. Have it where it sits several inches above the surrounding soil. The idea is to create a mound. Then, add native soil and potting mix around the sides of the rootball, finishing off your mound. Water like crazy. Add some pine bark mulch around it, not touching the trunk. Add more soil and mulch over the course of days and weeks, as some is washed away by rain and irrigation. Just don't burry it too deep, and you can make its work.

After planting a tree, I water it daily (unless ample rainfall) for several weeks. Then, goto to every other day for a few more weeks, and then 2 x per week or so unless raining a bit. Do not fertilize for at least 3 - 4 weeks, so your roots will grow out into the new media. N impedes new root growth. It's fine to go even longer, the soil will have enough of what it needs for a while. I usually wait months before fertilizing a newly planted tree.

Also, don't expect to see much growth for a while. The work will be done below ground before above. Your season on this tree is likely toast, and I wouldn't let it hold anything this year anyway. Planted a 45 g mango last spring. It dropped all fruit, but is rocking this season.

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Yes... these are all seedlings...

Kevin

...except the mulberry, which are from cuttings, and super delicious! =)

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Seems like Polpa Roxa, or something with color, would be best if trying to achieve something akin to red wine. I am tempted to make jabo wine now, just to prove it can be done. But first, must make jerky... I usually hate wine anyway. 

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Is there a fast fruiting jabo? I know they are slow growing but im impatient :P

Red hybrid, maybe Anomaly. There are others coming onto the scene.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: is there a good general tropical soil mix
« on: February 19, 2024, 01:34:39 PM »
I like taking Fox Farms Happy Frog and Ocean Forest, and mixing with extra peat, perlite, sand, and a little bonsai media. Add Holly Tone for jabos and acid lovers.

When in a crunch, Miracle Grow Cactus, Palm, and Citrus (?) works great with most plants, especially mangoes.

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TOP may be fos, but there is a Volcano Winery that uses jabo as an ingredient in blended wines. Probably just regular jabos it seems.

https://www.volcanowinery.com/shop-wines

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I've got several nice and healthy trees and plants from TOP in the past, but agree it is a bit of a gamble purchasing some things. My productive rollinia is from them, along with SW sap. They are 2 of my favorite trees, but I have dozens of favs =) Haven't ordered from them for years, more because they don't really have anything I'm looking for anymore, and have better sources for most stuff. Business must be good, because I recall them having an, "I don't give a shit" attitude.

As for Volcano Red Jabo, I would do some research and see what growers in Hawaii say. I always thought Sabara was the wine jabo, but also have heard of a "red one."

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Trouble free and fruitful:

Silas Woods Sapodilla
Sabara Jabo
Kari Starfruit
Garcinia intermedia
Thai jujube
kumquats
Various passion fruit
Glenn mango
papayas
Surinam cherry

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pics from the garden
« on: February 17, 2024, 11:06:02 AM »
Thank you Brandon. Upon further consideration, think I have a sausage tree at the moment.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: February 17, 2024, 10:57:34 AM »
Fantastic seeing all the progress! Sooo jealous Simon, but you work hard for the plants so they better treat you right! Thinking next year flowers, maybe fruits, for us. Babying them now.

Biqi 1


Biqi 2


White Dong Kui


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pics from the garden
« on: February 16, 2024, 07:05:23 PM »
Thx Brandon, you have doubled my hope! =)

Will take better pics tomorrow.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pics from the garden
« on: February 16, 2024, 05:51:01 PM »
Are these baby jak fruit? Nothing but male flowers for the last year or 2, but I see collars. Is that actually a reliable indicator of female flowers? 
Fruit 1?


Fruit 2?
Bad pic, but can see a collar on this one too.


Tree was seed grown from Farmers Market fruit that was crunchy and sweet, at least 5 years old, or more.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2024 FL Mango Season
« on: February 15, 2024, 11:32:43 AM »
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: keitt mango taste
« on: February 15, 2024, 09:25:40 AM »
Maybe they were treated with something. Have eaten plenty of Keitts over the years, and while not the best, have never noticed a "chemical" aftertaste. Stop eating them! Maybe find a better source for mangoes.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2024 FL Mango Season
« on: February 14, 2024, 07:13:18 PM »
While some fruits may ripen in late March, April is usually when some of the early varieties start, with May being much better and probably the official start to the season. June and July seem to be the peak months, with August mangoes being harder to find. Some of my neighbors have trees holding fruit as late as early November. Hoping for some August and September mmm4's this season.

Southern FL does have drier winters, but rainfall can vary dramatically between locations that are close to each other.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Fresh INGA pods DELICIOUS!!
« on: February 14, 2024, 12:41:27 PM »
Just got in there. Quite nice! Sweeter than I expected, with a pleasant flavor. Not very complex. My kid liked it too.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Fresh INGA pods DELICIOUS!!
« on: February 14, 2024, 12:22:16 PM »
Pods arrived today, thank you very much!

I've never had these before. Are they ready to eat now, or should I wait for any changes?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Let's Play: Name That Eugenia/Jabo!
« on: February 13, 2024, 11:09:14 PM »
#3 "annona" is an interesting guess. When I look at the closeup pic, it does look annona-ish. The leaves are smaller than annona, hard to tell from the pic. If you look at the first pic (group shot), #3 is the one on top.

I'm pretty sure it is a eugenia, maybe a plinia. While I do plant seeds, this one came in from a forum member or online seller.

Just planted some eugenia and myrciaria seeds, and LABELED them well, lol

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Let's Play: Name That Eugenia/Jabo!
« on: February 13, 2024, 08:04:45 PM »
Thanks Nate! I was thinking #1 is AxP, and was less sure about the other 2, but think you are also correct about #2 being e. squam.

#3 is tougher for me. Don't recall picking up any other plinias around that size and time, so was thinking eugenia. Any other ideas on #3 are appreciated.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2024 FL Mango Season
« on: February 12, 2024, 08:02:38 PM »
The Maha is only a tiny branch, and is mostly shaded. Will be lucky if it comes to anything. ndm4 also has Orange Sherbet grafted, which is like another tree itself now. It has not yet flowered either. Partially shaded corner of the yard, not ideal for mangoes.

ndm4 did produce a couple of tiny fruits a couple of years ago, but nothing that held to maturity.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Let's Play: Name That Eugenia/Jabo!
« on: February 12, 2024, 03:49:54 PM »
...alright, hint time.

I think the larger one might be AxP jabo.

Another of the plants should be e. squamiflora.

Not sure what the other one was supposed to be.

Thx!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2024 FL Mango Season
« on: February 11, 2024, 01:42:09 PM »
Must be nice to see blooms on that Pickering seedling! Congrats Shot! I have a grafted ndm4; waiting 9+ years and still no fruit. But the Maha graft on it is flowering =)

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