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I have one last excellent spot for a fruit tree in my yard. I live in Orlando Fl (9b).  The problem is I can't decide what to put there.

I already have a ton of mangos (always a great choice), three lychee trees, four avocado trees, two saps, pitomba, jaboticaba, Barbados cherry, atemoya, guava, persimmon, Pakistan mulberry, sweet belle orange, limes, longan, white sapote and carambola -- all in the ground.  I was thinking a black sapote tree but it gets too cold here. Kwai Muk maybe? 

What would you put in that spot if you were in my place?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is a black sapote tree worth having?
« on: June 21, 2022, 12:15:21 PM »
Some of you brought up a good point. I assumed it was cold tolerant for Central Florida. Is it?  I already grow sapodilla, mango and lychee plus a couple of jackfruit. The jackfruit was the only thing really damaged that bad in our last 24 degree cold spell. Will black sapote take some cold?  I know I can google it, but nothing bests personal experience.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Is a black sapote tree worth having?
« on: June 20, 2022, 07:03:55 PM »

I'm very short on space and was wondering if it's worth it to have a black sapote tree?  I know it's a matter of opinion, but I would like to eat the fruit and not just 'collect.'   Do people with this fruit actually use it enough to warrant having a tree?   


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Anyone tried Ed's Delight loquats?
« on: June 20, 2022, 07:00:51 PM »
Has anyone tried a Ed's Delight loquat?  I keep seeing the tree at my local nurseries, but I can't get any info on whether it's a good variety or not.  I currently have Christmas and Arbelino. I know it's a yellow white fleshed fruit. I've only had the orange ones, so I'm on unfamiliar territory.


Caribbean fruit fly is the bane of my existence in Central Florida. I was hoping to get your comments for your area regarding Caribbean or other fruit fly infestations. If possible, I'm just hoping to grow fruit that are resistant to these pests -- I don't have the time to net or bag. I've been experimenting and just ripping out the fruit trees that get maggots.  Here are my results so far:


Peach (heavily -- the worst)
Lemon Drop Mangosteen
Black surinam cherry (heavily -- the worst)
Surinam cherry (heavily -- the worst)
Fig (infested when ripe)
Cherry of the Rio Grande
Papaya (infested with papaya fruit fly)


Star Fruit / Carambola
Barbados Cherry
Jamaica Cherry (Muntingia)
Peanut Butter Fruit
Sugar Apple
Ice Cream Bean


White Sapote (had some ripe fruit infested but trying to pick earlier this year)
Jaboticaba (haven't had any yet)
Cabelluda (haven't had any yet)
Achacha (Achairu) (haven't had any yet)
Dragon Fruit (haven't had any yet)
Pitanga (haven't had fruit yet)


 lychee erinose mite?

I thought the state of Florida put a quarantine in and wiped that out?  It's still around? 


I would recommend saving your time and grow something else.  I've been trying pomegranate for twenty five years in Central Florida (Orlando region.)   I originally wanted them to fruit but eventually gave up on all the trees and just used them for ornamental reasons.  I have gotten them to fruit but they get to the size of a golf ball then dry up.  Fungal issues prevent full maturation. I've also had about twenty five trees on two properties with different microclimates; all failures.  Most of the varieties were Wonderful but I have tried a few others; all failures.  From what I know, Vietnamese red is the only variety that will consistently produce a fruit that you can eat. However, I don't think anyone thinks the poor quality fruit that comes from that tree worth writing home about.   Good luck. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherimoya in Florida
« on: March 18, 2022, 10:56:09 PM »
I've tried growing cherimoya in Orlando.  Tree does ok but won't hold fruit. I gave up eventually and just used it to graft a gefner atemoya onto it and the tree is now a superstar with the cherimoya rootstock; takes much more cold than the original Gefner that was grafted onto sugar apple.


I bought a Joyner Red dragon fruit from Hopkins Nursery at a plant show recently.  I'm trying to get some info on the variety to see if it's self pollinating or not, but nothing shows up.  Does anyone have any knowledge of this variety?  Thanks.

Orange sherbert, ice cream and honey kiss still hanging on. All the others are done.  Carrie just finished along with coconut cream and Fruit punch.

Does anyone else have experience with Emperor lychees?  I have a tree that started producing about 4 years ago and has produced loads of fruit every single year since.  I live in Central Florida (Orlando area.).   When I got the tree from a fella in south Florida, I was told this variety hardly produced at all for him. All I can guess is that this tree requires a bit more cold than south Florida typically provides.  Anyway, big nice tasting lychees.  Loads of them.  Does anyone else have this tree, and what is your experience with it?  As an example, my Brewster and Hak Ip produce every other year.  Mauritius is about the same (nothing special) and Sweetheart produces every year as well. Weird to have such random fruit production.

I have a four year old pacay in a 45g container. The container seems to be dwarfing it a bit (at least I hope so.). Anyway, I got my first flowers last year and this year I've got a TON of flowers on my containered Pacay.  Sadly, I don't believe it's self fertile at all though.  I got plenty of flowers last year but not a single pod.  This year, plenty of flowers, but nothing appears to be setting into pods either.  I saw a YouTube video of a guy in New Zealand who has nice large pacay pods from containerized trees, but he has several trees next to each other.   My solution was to buy another small pacay and sadly, wait another 3 years till I get flowers from it too.  I'm hoping with two trees I will have pods.  In short, you can grow pacay in a large container with no problem.  You will get plenty of flowers.  However, you will need another tree next to it for cross pollination to set fruit.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Growing Ice Cream Beans in Containers?
« on: August 09, 2020, 12:36:05 AM »
I've had one in a 45 gallon container that I grew from seed. I FINALLY got flowers this year, and I"m hoping (fingers crossed) that I get a few pods.  I'm considering planting it in the ground once I determine that it is self fruitful, but I'm really concerned that it will turn into a giant.   Does Pacay get as large as edulis?  I'm thinking they are about the same, but all the pictures of pacay that I see on the internet are of smaller trees. ????


I have to be honest. I'm growing tired of growing a fruit tree to maturity only to find that the fruit is infested with Caribbean fruit fly maggots; or whatever maggots. I've purchased some exclusion netting and will use it, but I've removed many a peach tree because I just can't deal with that darn fruit fly. The peaches grown here in Florida are just too hard to bag.

Besides mango, jackfruit and lychee, are there any other fruits that are resistant to fruit fly attacks?  I just want to grow the fruit and not have to bag every darn thing. 

Things that I no longer grow in quantity:  peaches (miss them), plums, papaya, surinam cherry, Cherry of the Rio Grande, wax jambu, and Grumichama. 

Anyone else having problems with these things?



I'm growing one here in Central Florida (Orlando) to see if the cooler winter temps might make a difference. The tree is growing well in afternoon shade and seems to be doing well. No flowers yet though.

Part of my winter freeze protection is to fill a 5 gallon black colored bucket with water, cover it with a top and leave it at the base of the fruit tress for nighttime warmth. Well, I just noticed I left a bucket still out under my hak-ip tree. The water was pretty hot since our spring Florida heat is here, but I didn't think about it and dumped the water close to the base of the tree. Two days later I noticed that the leaves were all dried out. It isn't lacking irrigation, so I'm at a loss.  Do you think that bucket of water killed the tree?  Man, I hope it flushes back out. What a stupid mistake on my part.

The only thing I'm doing is neglecting the Emperor. Once in a long while, I'll put Osmocote on it. Nothing else. Wish I could get the other trees to be as good. It might be the climate here in Orlando perhaps?  The Hak Ip just started showing some blooms last week.  For the Mauritius and Brewster, still nada again this year. :(

I have a sweetheart, a Mauritius, a Hak Ip, a Brewster and an Emperor.  From what people tell me, my Emperor should be the hardest to get to flower and fruit. For whatever reason here in Orlando, it's my most reliable producer by far. The darn thing blooms and fruits every year. I've got a ton of flowers so far this year.  For the other varieties, nada. What am I doing wrong?  Isn't the Brewster supposed to be one of the most reliable producers?

Concerning this bout of cold we just had in Florida, in my area of Orlando we bottomed out at 32.4 degrees -- was hovering close to 32 for about 3 to 4 hours. I was dead sure that my mango blossoms were all going to die (I have about 40 trees), but surprisingly they are all fine. No damage whatsoever. Insects are happily buzzing around the flowers a couple of days after as if nothing happened. I'm writing this because common wisdom on the internet says that mango blossoms are damaged or will die when the temp drops below 40F -- I've read this in a lot of places; not true in my case by a long shot. I really think the blossoms need to go below freezing to actually get ruined.

Anyone else with similar experience?


My Kary and Fwang Tung trees produced very small and 'hard' fruit this year. The Kary fruit looks fibrous and not juicy. The appearance of the skin is very dark opaque too (not anthracnose though) -- not the clear golden orange that I'm used to. What could be wrong?  Is there a trick to producing big beautiful looking fruit?


I'm thinking of wiping out my low chill peaches here in Orlando -- too much trouble with Caribbean fruit fly.  I'd like to perhaps replace them with Tropic Sweet and Anna low chill apple trees.   Does anyone have any experience growing apples in 9b (particularly around Orlando Florida.)  I'm wondering if they are relatively easy to grow and will produce apples in abundance. Any fungus issues?



I have about 40 different mango trees on my property in Orlando (Altamonte Springs/Maitland.). Most are in 45g containers but I have a Fruit Punch, Pyu Pyu Kalay, Rosigold, at least 7 Pickering, Honey Kiss, Mallika, NDM and a Glen all in the ground and growing great. I did lose a three year old Carrie and a 2 year old Peach Cobbler to frosts last year though -- no protection on the young trees.  Anyway, I grow about 200 tropical fruit trees here and most take it like a champ.  I've had a particularly hard time with young Sapodillas though, a young tamarind and a Trompo canister. The trees did not entirely die, but there was so much damage from a 6 hour long 25 degree freeze last year, that I just removed them.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / COTRG stem/limb die back?
« on: June 30, 2018, 11:38:14 PM »

I just started growing COTRG (cherry of the Rio Grande) and have 5 plants in the ground here in Orlando, Fl. I've noticed that I have stems and limbs dieing back every so often. The trees are still growing and putting out new leaves, but it's frustrating to see the trees not growing as well as they could due to this limb death. I'm afraid it will eventually kill the trees. Anyone else experience this and are the trees still worth growing?  What could be causing it?  The trees are planted in good soil with full sun. I'm not overwatering either.


Chrobrego in Orlando

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Any drawback to Maha chanok?
« on: March 16, 2018, 12:54:53 AM »
I had one but it was just too slow growing and the branches were very long. The freakish coldsnap we had here in Orlando killed it too while other varieties seemed to fair just fine in the exact same location; perhaps this means that it is less cold tolerant?

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