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ok will check dimensions of pot when i get home and post- thanks for estimates everyone

now you have me know I repot plants like a dirty nursery man for years I'm wondering if your estimate of 5-6 times bigger, of your supposed 7gal, may be a off by about 20gal.
 ;) :D ;D

What size is your pot? diameter 14in from inside wall to inside wall?? :-\ :)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: I have a disease! Need ID
« on: January 25, 2012, 03:37:40 PM »
I have noticed these nuggets on some of my leaves.  They are dry and pick out easily, but they reappear. On leaves (top and bottom).  They start off yellow/gold and age to black.
I need an ID and info on how to treat  please.

Pesticide systemic like, Merritt! thats knock the pee pee out of em ??? :'(...but may not be the safest option for health...but certain almost all nurseries use this here in FL ;)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Few pics of my TR Hovey papaya
« on: January 25, 2012, 03:29:58 PM »
Wow thats a nice tree. Do you know how old it is? Mine is just a year old and I was shocked at how fast it grew.
Have any of you guys ever actually tasted a TR Hovey papaya?


The friend I took this picture of tasted them and didn't find them to be amazing, but they did get knockked off the tree a bit premature due to being up on a cinderblock, when winds came through!

That tree was only one year old at most....purchased from logees, already about 12inches, so maybe 1.5yrs total?

I hear they do have that vomit taste that some object to here in FL...maybe not so much in other areas I hear....this has been a source of debate....but I'm searching for a papaya that's not a red lady, that doesn't taste like vom. :P

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Few pics of my TR Hovey papaya
« on: January 25, 2012, 03:02:06 PM »

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: new USDA Zones due to warming trend
« on: January 25, 2012, 01:53:38 PM »

from 1978 looks same more or warming is mumbo jumbo. :P ::) ;) >:( :'( ;)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: new USDA Zones due to warming trend
« on: January 25, 2012, 01:20:22 PM »
Just saw this:

thanks! now I need to change my profile! i'm in zone 9b i guess...what's the zone map from 1955 look like??? lol ;)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help Grafting Atemoya & Cherimoya
« on: January 25, 2012, 12:30:09 PM »
I thought Parafilm is the grafting tape as that's what folks are calling it. Now I am confused again.

No man, do you have my phone number?? if so just call me I hate typing.... ;D

But real tape is not made of wax, and can be pulled hard and tight, to seal your graft union, almost like a doctor would to seal your chest after cracking it open

the parafilm tape is what goes over the whole deal, covering the graft union and scion, sealing out all elements, and sealing in moisture like a mini greenhouse...the buds of the scion can push through when ready and you don't even need to remove parafilm

so parafilm is like the gauze bandage that keeps your wound from infection and so your skin can heal properly, with the staples or stitches holding your chest meat in place as it heals back(metaphorically like your cambium to cambium wound when attaching scion to rootstock).


hope that helped paint a better ;)

murahilin,unlike you, i care for the welfare of my trees and have no desire to stress my jab tree out by turning it on to its side with the resultant land slide that will occur. besides, I am currently living it up in FL some 1500 miles away from trees.
but based on Adams pic of his 15 gallon, i would estimate this to be at least 25 gallons. am i crazy?

measure the diameter of the guess is its not more than about 14inches, keep in mind the pot is thick so it looks bigger than it is, measure from inside wall to inside wall, not outer edge to outer edge...the walls  are over an inch thick on each side, giving a false appearance of larger volume....Im a 10 gal almost maybe...I could be wrong,just trying to help! :)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: what species you've airlayered?
« on: January 25, 2012, 12:00:25 AM »
wow- what a gorgeous lychee tree- what variety?

my guess....if not, brewster....?? :-\

adam that is way larger than 7 gallons. here is the 7 gallon pot the jab came in before I transplanted to its current pot which is about 5-6 times bigger

That looks like a 5gal not a 7 careful many different odd ball sizes can throw u off...your pot  is no bigger than 10gal, I still think its about 7 gal....and your tree could stand to stay in the same pot for a while still!

Just my opinion! ;)


I'd say a 7 gal....but don't quote me...Although I am one of the best guesstimators in the world. ;D ;D ;)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / PICS OF INSECTS IN FL, ON FRUIT TREES
« on: January 24, 2012, 09:16:29 PM »

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help Grafting Atemoya & Cherimoya
« on: January 24, 2012, 08:11:54 PM »
What size should be used? I see 1/2" all the way to 4", which size is better for parafilm

I like the 1 inch size I believe, half inch is ok'll need a grafting tape to! It has a different, more rigid texture, its also able to pull tight to seal "cambium to cambium" as best as possible! Wrap from bottom to top!! :)


What a disappointment!  I thought that you being Mr. Jaboticabo would have all of these varieties!!   :-[  Never realized there were so many.  So what type of jab did we eat at say...Whitmans or at Fruit & Spice Park?  The flesh itself was pretty good but if I recall correctly, the skin was very thick and not very good.  This is my wife's biggest complaint about this fruit.  What variety do you normally see offered for sale at nurseries?  Thanks for the run down...course...all it really did was confuse me more!   ???

Tried to modify my post so you can understand it better...there are even more jaboticaba!!! found all the time I hear!!! :o :o :o :) :) :) ??? ??? ??? ??? :)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: what species you've airlayered?
« on: January 24, 2012, 04:03:54 PM »
Adam, don't tell me you did not take pictures at PIN!

Rule #1 of this forum: Pictures, or it didn't happen!!

So, they were doing airlayers on small limbs (vertical/horizontal) in December? Rooting hormone? Did the remove cambium?

Doing them way at tips, all over, small foil wraps about 3 inches by 1.5 inch or so, timing must be right, and branch selection should be proper.  They looked like my miracle fruit airlayers almost! did you see those?? that should work fine! but don't know optimal medium to use...I use sphagnum peat, or cocopeat type stuff...also adding a product like Turf Pro, will be a small amount of beneficial nutrients and microorgainsms  that enhance root development!

I use Turf Pro for everything!! organic! and owner drinks the stuff to show its not harmful...only downside is it stains concrete!!!LOL best organic chelated iron and micro nutrient I've found!!!!

Great for airlayers and cuttings!!!!!

Hey Members!

I noticed how Oscar of Fruitlovers 8) set up his profile, with his zone and location...if you don't feel comfortable with your location, at least put your zone, so your comments are in context when I (and others of course) read them!!!

I keep thinking some of the members are in FL or CA, and they are OH or NY!!! so their comments or pictures look way off to me when I read comments!!  ???

Thanks for the template Oscar! Sorry to bite your style! :-[ :-[ :-[ ;) 8)

Adam :)

WOW! Such a great specimen in a pot! It sure looks very vigorous and healthy...

My opinion: I would prune the tips for a more bushy growth. Thats what I do with my Pouterias, or else they grow like pines  ;)

When I pulled it under the South East eve of my house, or awning or whatever, the tips got knocked off!! SO your pruning request was fulfilled by prophecy!

 ??? ??? ??? :P :P ;) ;D

Hope I see a flower in the next 4 years or so max! I've really babied this one!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help Grafting Atemoya & Cherimoya
« on: January 24, 2012, 03:13:48 PM »
Thanks. I looked up online and found several folks selling grafting tape, budding tape, tools, etc. and are quite pricy too.  Does anyone know a good source/link to decent products that dont cost an arm and a leg?
out of TX.

I get mine there to support them, I don't remember them being to pricey!  Get a roll of the paraflim tape. ;)



I have seen jackfruit fruiting in smaller containers. I've seen them flower in 1 gallons but I've seen fruit held on a 7gallon.
Here are some pics of a flowering 3g and a fruiting 7g. If it is possible with jackfruit, it may be possible with a grafted marang. Maybe grafting marang onto jackfruit? Hmmm... Someone needs to get to work on this.

 ??? ??? ??? ???

where can I get one! WOW! ??? ??? ???

Did the fruits hold, and mature?  and make quality fruits?

What variety is this?

Thanks so much for teaching me how small they can be fruited!!! ;D

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help Grafting Atemoya & Cherimoya
« on: January 24, 2012, 01:25:15 PM »
I have 8-yr old Cherimoya tree, another 5 yr old Cherimoya and Atemoya tree. I am planning to graft Lisa (from Adam) on to my Cherimoya OR Atemoya and experiment Cherimoya on to Atemoya as well.  Few questions for pros on this forum who have successfully grafted these fruits:
1. Will Cherimoya graft onto Atemoya?
2. Will Lisa graft onto Cherimoya and Atemoya?

Does anyone has their own success story on How to Graft these fruit trees successfully OR a link that I can follow?

I have Cherimoya cuttings as scion if anyone wants them.

Yes you can graft onto all of the above, each other...but I would choose cherimoya as rootstock near you.

Also, I use a side veneer graft, it works very well....all big nurseries in FL use side veneer...It also allows for better rate of success if your scion width diameter is less compatible with your rootstock diameter.

Make sure your cuts are flat! SURFACE TO SURFACE MOST CONTACT OF AS POSSIBLE, that's why grafting knives are beveled on one edge! FLAT CUTS!, SURFACE CONTACT!  TIMING IS CRITICAL FOR SCION, more so THAN ROOTSTOCK...I won't mail you scions that are at the wrong stage for hit me up at a perfect time!

Hope you get them to take!  I have been grafting them with success, you can email me and ask for pictures....I don't know if I can dig any up, but will try...I have more tips on grafting if you need!  PARAFILM IS A MUST FOR VENEER GRAFTING ANNONAS in MY OPINION.


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