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12101
Any potting mix ideas greatly appreciated and fertilization advice too
 I have always  potted in Home Depot topsoil but can now see the drawbacks. I have planted mangoes and citrus but would like to grow some in  pots such as my Meyer Lemon and my Red Naval Orange.

Make your own mix like this!

Lambert Peat Moss Large cube (11 dollars by me at home depot) 40%

Silica sand/ multi purpose sand ( home depot sells bags near concrete 50lbs, 3 bucks) 20%

the remaining 40% can be a variety of ratios of the following materials:

Pine bark Fines (maybe 20-30%)

Cocounut mulch, smaller size particles (maybe 20-30%) 

coffee grounds (don't use more than 10-15% total in mix)



Hope you make a good mix for cheap! ;D

DON"T MIX SILICA SAND WITHOUT A RESPIRATOR, OR PROTECTING YOUR LUNGS!!! :'( :'( :'( :)



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: what species you've airlayered?
« on: January 24, 2012, 11:38:54 AM »
Felipe and Adam, i've heard that mamoncillo or Spanish lime  (Melicoccus bijugatus) cannot be airlayered easily and is usually propagated by grafting. Even though this fruit is in sapindaceae family it looks and acts quite different than its cousins.
Oscar

Oscar,

FORGOT TO MENTION, WAS AT PINE ISLAND NURSERY, AND THEY AIRLAYER THE HELL OUT OF THE SPANISH LIME!  I'm so stupid to have just remembered this! :-[ :-[ :-[ :P

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: what species you've airlayered?
« on: January 24, 2012, 11:37:13 AM »
I think the mamoncillo must be layered from large limbs, which has detrimental effect to the tree.

Jeff

Jeff,

I just took a tour of Pine Island Nursery a month ago, they airlayer small branches of spanish lime!!! 

I forgot totally about this!  Small wraps on about 14 inch branches, all over...the dude working told me they do it this way... I was surprised.

SORRY I FORGOT! :o :o :-[ :-[ ;) ;) :)

12104
and anyone heard of a marang fruiting in Fl or CA (whether in a container or not)
thinking of buying a tree. anyone know of  source that ships?

I havent heard of it, but can guarantee it can be done, in a 45-75 gal container though.  I was thinking of trying...

but be warned you are growing a tree that's similar in growth habit and height (maybe smaller) as jackfruit (which can be fruited in a pot 50-75 gal, smallest Ive heard of).


quoted from Toptropicals.com below

Growing

In tropical climate this evergreen tree grows to 60 ft tall, in subtropical areas it won't grow as tall and can stay under 20 ft. Marang can be grown in container inside a greenhouse, where it will enjoy high humidity. This tree is sensitive to freeze and requires protection below 45F. It needs regular watering and fertile well-drained soil. High air humidity is always a plus.
The seedlings grow rapidly, first fruit can be expected within 3-4 years.

Considering its rarity and problematic exporting, the only way to enjoy this tropical delicacy is to grow one of your own!


LET ME KNOW HOW IT WORKS OUT! OR IF YOU CAN SOURCE SEED! THANKS! :)

12105
Hey Adam,

Thank you so much for the Pruning advice.  I would have never thought to prune my Jaboticabas, but with your pictures and explination, it makes sense.

Thanks for the information and guidance.

Jacob

Yes Jacob!

Good luck! ;)

Be careful not to over prune if your tree is in a marginal climate! like 25F regularly! This will set the tree back! :(

 :) :) :)

12106
Looks normal and healthy to me.  8) Pantins are very nice mameys!
Oscar

Thanks Oscar!! :)

I figured it was just cuz it was a seedling!  Maybe in 7 more years I'll see flower!!!

I almost want to force this one to fruit here!!!

Not sure if I can handle the anguish of a cold winter, and fruits that dropped at 10months old!!!

 :'( :'( :'( ;) :)

12107
25 gal Mamey with largest leaves I've seen, some up to 24 inches!  I love the look, every asks what it is, and guesses loquat!!

it handled the freeze well!!

Don't think I'll get fruits anytime soon, maybe I trade it to one of you guys way down south?? It should fruit soon, the fruit I got it out of was Pantin, and huge sized seed and fruit! Only one seed.

seems like seedlings always have larger leaves than grafted mamey sapote, or at least the ones i've seen in South FL.

Anyone else think these leaves are just normal??? Grown in 100% sun!!! in a 25 gal?? you'd think leaves might be smaller?


12108
Great harvest. Is it possible to get few cuttings/scion of that pink Atemoya when you prune and shipped to CA? I will pay for shipping.

x

HURRY, Ive already had one request and have limited supply...unless it was you that requested already??

Good luck! :)  I'm here to help all of my fruiting friends, especially those who love annonas like me!

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My understanding is that grafted garcinias do not do very well.  I have heard this information from at least two (2) people that have done several garcinia grafting.  Sometimes the graft takes but there is always a noticeable calus as if the scion and the root stock were incompatible.  My friend is Brazil is the biggest producer of Achachairu/achacha/Bolivian mangosteen in northeast Brazil and he told me that instead of grafting achachairu it is better to grow them from seeds.
Another friend of mine, a botanist told me that he did a zilion garcinia grafting and that the ones that took the graft produced only one time and then the tree did not produce again.
These photos are from achachairu produced by my friend in Recife, Brasil.
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BERTO,

this looks like G. gardneriana, am I mistaken??? this is G. laterifolia?

Thanks friend!

Adam

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Any of you garcinia wizards know if Bolivian Mangosteen can be grafted to Lemon Drop Mangosteen??

Jeff

I'm sure you can do it!! DO a saddle graft, inverted cleft, like whitman did for mangosteen!!!
I'll buy one Jeff, even if it calluses all weird!!

GOOD LUCK :) :) :)  U HAD AMAZINGLY SMALL AND FRUITING MAKOK SAPODILLA!!! U HAV A GOOD TOUCH WITH THE GRAFTING, YOU'LL GET IT FOR SURE..

12112
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Why everyone moved to this forum?
« on: January 23, 2012, 10:01:28 PM »
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: some jab pics for Adam
« on: January 23, 2012, 05:11:49 PM »
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: some jab pics for Adam
« on: January 23, 2012, 05:08:50 PM »
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12115
If anyone have never bought seeds from Oscar before you should go on his website today and order some because they are consistently the best quality seeds. I've ordered from him a few times and the seeds have always arrived quickly and were viable. I actually just ordered some Theobroma bicolor seeds yesterday.
OSCAR IS MY GO TO MAN ;D!!! THE SEED DEALER 8)!!! HE RUNS THE BLOCK :o!!! BEST SOURCE OTHER THAN A PLANE TRIP TO COUNTRY OF ORIGIN!!! ;) ;) ;) ;D ;D ;D

12117
adam- great pics.
Have you ever heard of jaboticabas fruiting from the tips when the plants are young?. Both Robert (Stressbaby) and my jaboticaba fruited from the tip after 2-3 years in a pot. I believe Robert's went on to fruit from the wood. for now, mine is still fruiting (only 2-3 fruits) from the tips.
I will try and take a pic of my jab and get your pruning advice

Yes!

I have seen this with only trees that are in too deep of shade!  As I would wager 1,000,000 GBP if I had it, that this is the case with the tree in the photo...with fruits at tips...have seen them fruit all the way up to the smallest of branches, in about 50% shade though, still fruiting heavily.

Thanks for the picture!!!

LOL what is the fruit doing in the pot on the ground? LOL birds get me here...ok with me, too much fruit to eat by myself! :)

12118
the ever magnanimous Harry of House fame, gave me a tour of his paradise today. Alas, not even a hint of lychee bloom on his many trees. I am deeply concerned for the florida lychee harvest this year. I digress. At the end of the tour we feasted on 2 large Cherimoyas that I purchased from Chrimoya.com. They were excellent, if annoyingly seedy.  Of course, murahilin complained that the fruit had too much flavor. We also tried some of Harry's black sapote. When a fruit looks like someone has just taken a dump into a passion fruit shell, you assume it would have to taste outstanding for it to still be cultivated. Not so. A more tasteless fruit surely cannot exist- the only flavor i could detect at all was a very slight taste of mango bloom. I have never tasted mango blooms but the sapote tasted like how mango blooms smell (and they dont smell good). We also had some very good carembola- cultivars, belll and possum's arse or something like that, some sapodilla- meh, and some pretty good pommelo

Thanks Harry for your omnipotent hospitality and I hope I am forgiven for dissing your black sapotes

Noel Ramos has a nice tasting one, and so does Toppy of Merritt Island FL...Ive had a nasty one like you are saying! No taste!, these ones have a sweet floral taste, not like the (stale natural ice beer smell) smell of mango flowers.  LOL

Keep on trying them!  Don't give up, not all fruits taste the same of the same species...


12119
Beautiful fruit! What size containers are your trees in, and how tall are the atemoya trees?

Trees are in size containers from 7-25gal.. gefner in 7gal with fruit, lisa in 25 gal, others in 7 or 10gal pots, sugar apples to.

they arent more than about 6.5ft tall by8ft wide (lisa), rest are small like 5 x 2 ft, gefner, and 4x2ft pet pak chong, and Nuathong.

Adam :)

12120
Who still has avocados in January and what variety? Also can you post a picture of your tree and rate its flavor if possible.  Also mention if you would recommend it to others and the location (city/state) where you are growing it.

Thanks,
Adiel

Saw a lula, on my friends tree in Loxahatchee, and it was sweet tasting when I took it home Nice, but not my favorite.

Just picked a Choquette from my friends tree in Orlando, its huge fruit and beautiful tree, supposed to taste good but havent eaten yet.

Good luck :)

12121
Adam...I remember you going into a lengthy explanation on yahoo as to why you prune your jabs in this manner.  Would you please share those explanations here?  Again...I'm sure more folks are interested in jabs but are scared off by the length of time it takes to begin fruiting.  Thanks.

Yes Jay,

the reason to prune them good and early (especially certain varieties with fruits on wood thicker than 2 inches or so), to establish the wood you have selected to fruit at an early period in the trees life, thereby forcing the tree to grow thicker on the branches you've chosen to keep, and fruit.

Don't let suckers (little branches that will make your jabo turn into a bush with no light penetrating old branches) over run your branches you've selected to fruit!

So that little Red Jaboticaba will fruit sooner, with less energy being devoted to vegetative growth in branches, and more to old wood and flower formation on the caulis. ;)

I also keep tips pruned to encourage branching, instead of long shoots, like in before picture of Sabara in ground.

PLEASE NOTE! the wood is hard as hell, and you'll need a saw for best pruning method of old large branches (bigger than 2inches), they can easily bend the best and largest loppers, and also grow in crazy angles that can make loppers impossible to use!  Get a good pruning saw if you want to prune a big one!! Oscar...i think this means u...LOL
Hope this helps more! :)

Thanks Jay!

12122
OK Adam, you convinced me and inspired me! Will prune this jaboticaba tree that is 20+ years old and i've never once pruned. I'll try to take before and after photos.
Oscar


PLEASE POST PICS!! GOOD LUCK!!
AH HA!  GODSPEED OSCAR!! VIVA FRUITLOVERS!! :) ;) ;D 8)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: what species you've airlayered?
« on: January 22, 2012, 05:47:33 PM »
being a close relative of lychee longan , i think its easily done... :)

you mean the spanish lime?


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