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Seedless Or Low-Seeded Mandarin Varieties
« on: July 26, 2014, 01:53:10 PM »
 Many mandarin varieties produce seedless or low-seeded fruit whether isolated or not from other pollen producing citrus fruits.  These include Gold Nugget, all Satsuma varieties, Pixie, Seedless Kishu, Yosemite Gold, Tahoe Gold, Shasta Gold, Tango, USDA 88-2, and the new UCR citrus breeding program releases - Daisy SL, Fairchild LS, and Kinnow LS.- Millet
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Re: Seedless Or Low-Sseeded Mandarin Varieties
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2014, 04:19:13 PM »
I worked at picking seedless Mandarins for my yard:

USDA 88-2
Kishu Mini
Pixie
Tango
Yosemite Gold
Gold Nugget

I did buy a couple Page Mandarins but expect to juice them like my seedy Minneola and Cocktail. Some fruits just don't have a seedless equivalent.

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Re: Seedless Or Low-Sseeded Mandarin Varieties
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2014, 07:46:47 PM »
I was actually looking for Shasta Gold when I ordered trees this spring but couldn't find them.  Maybe I will look again next year.  I know the Golden Nuggets are good.  I have a few fruit on my GN and I'm looking forward to seeing how they compare to store-bought.

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Re: Seedless Or Low-Sseeded Mandarin Varieties
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2014, 08:31:38 PM »
The japanese claim fruits with seeds allways taste better, seeds don't bother me much, getting citrus fruits from my tree's is what i am after.
When you are new in growing citrus or other fruits seeing the fruits of your labor is all i am after.

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Re: Seedless Or Low-Seeded Mandarin Varieties
« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2014, 03:13:04 PM »
I am cursed by an abundance of pollinators and too many citrus varieties so only tahitian limes remain seedless.At least I don't have to hand pollinate Annonas and dragonfruit.

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« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2014, 01:09:02 AM »
I tasted some Daisy SL last Friday at Lindcove and they were excellent.  The only drawback to this fruit is that they don't peel very well.

Also, I was surprised to find that the Page at Lindcove did not have very many seeds in it.   88-2 was also very good but a friend thought that the membrane was a bit tough.  The Tahoe/Shasta/Yosmite Gold as well Tango and Gold Nugget were not ripe yet.

Breeder Mike Roose told me that he thought that Daisy SL and Gold Nugget are the too best tasting around.

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Re: Seedless Or Low-Sseeded Mandarin Varieties
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2014, 12:19:18 PM »
I worked at picking seedless Mandarins for my yard:

USDA 88-2
Kishu Mini
Pixie
Tango
Yosemite Gold
Gold Nugget

I did buy a couple Page Mandarins but expect to juice them like my seedy Minneola and Cocktail. Some fruits just don't have a seedless equivalent.


Page Mandarins are seedless.

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Re: Seedless Or Low-Seeded Mandarin Varieties
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2014, 04:07:43 PM »
The mature Page mandarin tree at my old house was seedy. Budwood
came from CCPP.

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Re: Seedless Or Low-Seeded Mandarin Varieties
« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2014, 08:28:06 PM »
I would add Encore LS to the list, later than gold nugget and superb flavour. 
The original Encore, like the Honey mandarin (Cal), was a King x willowleaf, but very seedy.

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Re: Seedless Or Low-Seeded Mandarin Varieties
« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2014, 10:53:19 AM »
So there are 3 Page citrus fruits !




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Re: Seedless Or Low-Seeded Mandarin Varieties
« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2015, 09:29:45 PM »
I tasted some Daisy SL last Friday at Lindcove and they were excellent.  The only drawback to this fruit is that they don't peel very well.

Also, I was surprised to find that the Page at Lindcove did not have very many seeds in it.   88-2 was also very good but a friend thought that the membrane was a bit tough.  The Tahoe/Shasta/Yosmite Gold as well Tango and Gold Nugget were not ripe yet.

Breeder Mike Roose told me that he thought that Daisy SL and Gold Nugget are the too best tasting around.
Harvey,

I just tried one of my Daisys here in San Diego, it actually peeled easy, had a taste similar to the Gold Nugget. I don't have the Daisy sl, the regular one is just fine.

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Re: Seedless Or Low-Seeded Mandarin Varieties
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2015, 08:35:38 AM »
i did not no there was a mine kinds of low or no seeds fruit out there...   love to get my hand on some sion wood of them...
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Re: Seedless Or Low-Seeded Mandarin Varieties
« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2015, 08:55:22 AM »
What is the best variety for container growing?  from Michigan

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Re: Seedless Or Low-Seeded Mandarin Varieties
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2015, 11:45:58 AM »
Page are seedy only if a suitable pollinator is nearby. - I don't have the list handy but many mandarins and some oranges will pollinate them. I have just a few on my tree this year, maybe 15 fruits, but they are large and extremely sweet if you let them hang until around now. A worthy addition to ones collection.

For Michigan. You want a hardy, easy to fruit tree that stays smallish with quality fruit probably. Page, tango, dekopan would probably work too, gold nugget I would also consider possibly a clementine.

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Re: Seedless Or Low-Seeded Mandarin Varieties
« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2015, 01:45:10 PM »
The Page Mandarin I have posted a picture of the label above states it is seedless. My fruit is seedless and not pollinated by the 15 + varieties of citrus in my small yard.

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Re: Seedless Or Low-Seeded Mandarin Varieties
« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2015, 02:37:07 PM »
I have not juiced any yet but UCR says "numerous seeds": http://www.citrusvariety.ucr.edu/citrus/page.html

Both the parents have seeds but I'm not sure what that means.

I haven't picked any but my first batch looks ready. I guess we will see.

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« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2015, 09:48:21 PM »
I have not juiced any yet but UCR says "numerous seeds": http://www.citrusvariety.ucr.edu/citrus/page.html

Both the parents have seeds but I'm not sure what that means.

I haven't picked any but my first batch looks ready. I guess we will see.

Let us know if they're seedy :)
I trust the UCR link more than my nursery tag and it looks like the same fruit.

I harvested a bunch of Honey Mandarins today and that is a very nice fruit as well.

Plantcrazy- plant your favorite or a highly rated mandarin variety. They all fruit well for me in 15 gallon and larger pots. I don't think there's much difference in cold tolerance of certain Mandarin varieties. Either way you will have to protect it in the winter.


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Re: Seedless Or Low-Seeded Mandarin Varieties
« Reply #17 on: February 06, 2015, 11:20:02 AM »
Bush2Beach, Just like UCR indicates, Page is seedy.

However, there may be a technicality -  just because a pollinator is nearby, that tree may not flower at the same time and may not actually pollinate the Page if flowering times are not in sync. My page flowered late this past year and the majority of the fruits are seedless or very low seeded.

Also the definition of seedless I believe, means each fruit can contain 5 or less seeds. So calling page seedless could be yes some years and no others.

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Re: Seedless Or Low-Seeded Mandarin Varieties
« Reply #18 on: February 06, 2015, 09:18:43 PM »
Ryan very good information. For a citrus fruit to legally be considered "seedless"it  is even higher.  It is 6 seeds or less. - Millet

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Re: Seedless Or Low-Seeded Mandarin Varieties
« Reply #19 on: February 07, 2015, 12:24:43 PM »
The Page had a 3-6 seeds per fruit so I guess that is "Seedless" by their definition. Certainly doesn't fit my definition.

My mature Minneola has about the same number of seeds per fruit but the fruit are much larger, making about 2-3 times the juice per fruit. UCR calls them Low-Seeded.

My 88-2 Mandarins had 0-1 seed per fruit, still far more than my Kishus which have about 1 seed per 20 mandarins or maybe more.

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Re: Seedless Or Low-Sseeded Mandarin Varieties
« Reply #20 on: February 07, 2015, 01:23:53 PM »
I worked at picking seedless Mandarins for my yard:

USDA 88-2
Kishu Mini
Pixie
Tango
Yosemite Gold
Gold Nugget

I did buy a couple Page Mandarins but expect to juice them like my seedy Minneola and Cocktail. Some fruits just don't have a seedless equivalent.

I'm pretty sure I've tried all of these and you picked a nice group of top tier Mandarins there!

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Re: Seedless Or Low-Seeded Mandarin Varieties
« Reply #21 on: February 07, 2015, 03:39:41 PM »
The name "seedless citrus" is a bit of a misnomer. The United States Department of Agriculture is the governmental organization that officially stipulates that a seedless fruit can contain from 0 to 6 seeds. This means that most citrus fruits listed as seedless actually contain a small number of seeds. Still, this small amount is far fewer than the number of seeds in a seeded variety of fruit. - Millet