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Plinia coronata var. Restinga: a precocious coronata variety
« on: January 10, 2016, 09:16:21 PM »
I didn't see a thread dedicated to this exciting new introduction into the USA

Apparently this variety is quite precocious when compared to most varieties of coronata, that can take 15yrs...the Restinga variety fruits in about 5-7yr (sometimes even earlier I assume)

I wonder who is going to be the first to fruit this one in the USA? (Or at least on the forum?  Who will have flowers or fruit first?)

I have some trees about 3-4ft tall, but they're still a good 1-3 yr away I'm assuming...

Will post pics soon...

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Re: Plinia coronata var. Restinga: an unusually precocious coronata variety
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2016, 11:06:37 PM »
I didn't see a thread dedicated to this exciting new introduction into the USA

Apparently this variety is quite precocious when compared to most varieties of coronata, that can take 15yrs...the Restinga variety fruits in about 5-7yr (sometimes even earlier I assume)

I wonder who is going to be the first to fruit this one in the USA? (Or at least on the forum?  Who will have flowers or fruit first?)

I have some trees about 3-4ft tall, but they're still a good 1-3 yr away I'm assuming...

Will post pics soon...


Put a bunch of kelp and jamaican bat guano on it, guarantee you'll be the first with fruit.

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Re: Plinia coronata var. Restinga: an unusually precocious coronata variety
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2016, 11:39:54 PM »
Lol, I don't know, there might be someone out there who has flowers already!!

I didn't see a thread dedicated to this exciting new introduction into the USA

Apparently this variety is quite precocious when compared to most varieties of coronata, that can take 15yrs...the Restinga variety fruits in about 5-7yr (sometimes even earlier I assume)

I wonder who is going to be the first to fruit this one in the USA? (Or at least on the forum?  Who will have flowers or fruit first?)

I have some trees about 3-4ft tall, but they're still a good 1-3 yr away I'm assuming...

Will post pics soon...


Put a bunch of kelp and jamaican bat guano on it, guarantee you'll be the first with fruit.
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Re: Plinia coronata var. Restinga: a precocious coronata variety
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2016, 04:47:44 PM »
Jabomano sent me some pics to upload,

looks like his tree is the first to bloom in USA, congrats Ray!

check out the first flower buds emerging...




here is the whole tree, in 15 gal pot, about 5 ft tall, Ray said he planted seeds Dec, 5 2012  (so approx 3 yrs from seed to flower?  )

here is the caliper of the trunk



my trees might fruit this year or next!  I have about 10 of them in 15 gal, about 3-4ft tall.
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Re: Plinia coronata var. Restinga: a precocious coronata variety
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2016, 05:03:30 PM »
Pretty impressive stuff! I'd like to see and hear how the fruit differs from other varieties.
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Re: Plinia coronata var. Restinga: a precocious coronata variety
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2016, 02:37:32 AM »
Great looking Jab's..hopefully his hands are not like Andre The Giant ;)
(I meant to add a pic of Andre hold a can of beer but my computer wasn't cooperating)

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Re: Plinia coronata var. Restinga: a precocious coronata variety
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2016, 02:53:24 AM »
Pretty impressive stuff! I'd like to see and hear how the fruit differs from other varieties.

supposedly the fruit is really nice...sweet with a very high pulp to seed ratio, and decent sized fruits...considerably larger than Sabara.

Great looking Jab's..hopefully his hands are not like Andre The Giant ;)
(I meant to add a pic of Andre hold a can of beer but my computer wasn't cooperating)

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lol..ya I know what u mean...I don't think Ray has giant hands, but his results are not typical...I think it will usually take about 5yr. to fruit from seed...(which is still incredibly fast)...and probably8yr at the longest.

now that I see Ray's tree flowering so early, I'm keeping a few of the largest specimens I was going to sell! 

but i still have some really nice trees to sell (about 20 left?)  I guess they're relatively close to fruiting still...maybe 3-4yr away?
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Re: Plinia coronata var. Restinga: a precocious coronata variety
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2016, 08:27:38 AM »
I wonder if the restinga fruit will be as large as some of the other Coronata fruit, approaching golfball size?

Adam, how does restinga perform with city water and high pH on its own rootstock?

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Re: Plinia coronata var. Restinga: a precocious coronata variety
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2016, 10:11:58 AM »
I wonder if the restinga fruit will be as large as some of the other Coronata fruit, approaching golfball size?

Adam, how does restinga perform with city water and high pH on its own rootstock?

Simon

The new book shows slightly over 3cm diameter

It's not the larget coronata variety, but is a large fruit for sure

I heard they tolerate city water very well...but i haven't had a chance to test them for too long...mine were on city water for a good year with no major problems..but I did end up having to drench with chelated Fe once or twice.
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Re: Plinia coronata var. Restinga: a precocious coronata variety
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2016, 10:14:54 AM »
I wonder if the restinga fruit will be as large as some of the other Coronata fruit, approaching golfball size?

Adam, how does restinga perform with city water and high pH on its own rootstock?

Simon

The new book shows slightly over 3cm diameter

It's not the larget coronata variety, but is a large fruit for sure

I heard they tolerate city water very well...but i haven't had a chance to test them for too long...mine were on city water for a good year with no major problems..but I did end up having to drench with chelated Fe once or twice.
haven't noticed any issues with mine and just been watering (when not raining) with the hose without a filter.
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Re: Plinia coronata var. Restinga: a precocious coronata variety
« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2016, 02:14:59 PM »
Thanks for the information guys!

Sounds like it will grow fine on its own rootstock but it couldn't hurt to have it on Adams super precocious hybrid rootstock, I mean on Sabara rootstock:)

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Re: Plinia coronata var. Restinga: a precocious coronata variety
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2016, 04:02:05 PM »
Here is one of my Restingas with interesting umbrella like shape (when I compare it to other seedlings from same lot) and very compact dense growth. They are 3 y. old and about 2 - 3 ft high. I water all jabos only with rain water because tape water is very calcareous.


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Re: Plinia coronata var. Restinga: a precocious coronata variety
« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2016, 07:09:40 PM »
tree looks great Polux, thanks for posting the picture...supposedly this variety is not much taller than 10ft in cultivation.
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Re: Plinia coronata var. Restinga: a precocious coronata variety
« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2016, 07:52:11 PM »
They look like a beautiful species. I saw daleys nursury had coronata

. not in Stock now though.is there anyone out there in Australia with this species....cooooeee.

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Re: Plinia coronata var. Restinga: a precocious coronata variety
« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2016, 06:15:41 PM »
tree looks great Polux, thanks for posting the picture...supposedly this variety is not much taller than 10ft in cultivation.

Thanks, I hope so because my space for them is limited by greenhouse  :)

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Re: Plinia coronata var. Restinga: a precocious coronata variety
« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2016, 06:29:20 PM »
tree looks great Polux, thanks for posting the picture...supposedly this variety is not much taller than 10ft in cultivation.

Thanks, I hope so because my space for them is limited by greenhouse  :)

haha, I'm keeping about 10 of them in pots, indefinitely in my greenhouse!

I will just keep taking scions from the top, so it doesn't hit the roof!

I have some white jaboticabas and camu camus that are almost touching the 10ft tall roof already!!

I had to cut back the Myrciaria glazioviana very hard already!

Same with Myrciaria vexator, I finally pruned the heck out of it..and it looks really cool now...u can really marvel at the bicolored bark.
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Re: Plinia coronata var. Restinga: a precocious coronata variety
« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2016, 06:29:55 PM »
Joshua I have some small seedlings of the common and restinga varieties.They will be around.

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« Reply #17 on: January 14, 2016, 06:47:38 PM »
tree looks great Polux, thanks for posting the picture...supposedly this variety is not much taller than 10ft in cultivation.

Thanks, I hope so because my space for them is limited by greenhouse  :)

haha, I'm keeping about 10 of them in pots, indefinitely in my greenhouse!

I will just keep taking scions from the top, so it doesn't hit the roof!

I have some white jaboticabas and camu camus that are almost touching the 10ft tall roof already!!

I had to cut back the Myrciaria glazioviana very hard already!

Same with Myrciaria vexator, I finally pruned the heck out of it..and it looks really cool now...u can really marvel at the bicolored bark.

Got pics of your pruned blue jabo? I recall it has a really gnarly trunk.

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Re: Plinia coronata var. Restinga: a precocious coronata variety
« Reply #18 on: January 14, 2016, 07:38:29 PM »
Joshua I have some small seedlings of the common and restinga varieties.They will be around.

Mike, when you get some branches, about 3mm-5mm caliper that you can donate, you should send some to Josh for grafting onto Sabara, or even Grimal.

Xshen,

I will try to get a decent pic
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Re: Plinia coronata var. Restinga: a precocious coronata variety
« Reply #19 on: January 14, 2016, 09:17:00 PM »
tree looks great Polux, thanks for posting the picture...supposedly this variety is not much taller than 10ft in cultivation.

Thanks, I hope so because my space for them is limited by greenhouse  :)

haha, I'm keeping about 10 of them in pots, indefinitely in my greenhouse!

I will just keep taking scions from the top, so it doesn't hit the roof!

I have some white jaboticabas and camu camus that are almost touching the 10ft tall roof already!!


I had to cut back the Myrciaria glazioviana very hard already!

Same with Myrciaria vexator, I finally pruned the heck out of it..and it looks really cool now...u can really marvel at the bicolored bark.

Seeing as how you have this problem,  feel obliged to help you out....1 of each should suffice for now.
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Re: Plinia coronata var. Restinga: a precocious coronata variety
« Reply #20 on: January 14, 2016, 09:26:39 PM »
Any source for these seeds good fruit people?
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Re: Plinia coronata var. Restinga: a precocious coronata variety
« Reply #21 on: April 07, 2022, 02:02:18 PM »
I just posted about this on the Jaboholics Anonymous thread, but worth posting here.

I have a Coronata Restinga I got from Adam back in 2017 with a metal tag dated 12-5-12, therefore must be from the same source (Ray/Jabomano).  I've been growing it since then and just potted it up into a 45g.  It has not yet flowered or fruited, but it has a trunk diameter of about 2.5 inches and height w/out pot of about 7ft.

This thread indicates that Ray planted seeds 12-5-12 and the plants had grown to a height of 5ft fruiting trees in 15g about three years later.  This is incredible growth rate for any jaboticaba!  Do we have confirmation that actual fruit were harvested in that timeframe?  Sorry for my skepticism, but based on the fact I have one now in a 45 gallon that still hasn't fruited...

Some pics of mine in a 25g before potting up:








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« Reply #22 on: April 07, 2022, 05:44:43 PM »
I got one of those restinga also with the metal tag. Mine fruited for the
first time last year and just finished fruiting this year. I put mine in the
ground 2 1/2 years ago. So mine fruited the first time at 8 1/2 years old.
Sometimes I have been told the fruiting times being posted are in Brazil
under perfect conditions and you should add 2-3 years?
Your tree looks great and the fruit is really good. It should be soon.
A few years ago I saw a youtube video of Ray/Jabomano trees. Those
were the nicest trees I have ever seen. I can't find the video now?
I wouldn't be skeptical of anything concerning Ray?

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Re: Plinia coronata var. Restinga: a precocious coronata variety
« Reply #23 on: April 08, 2022, 11:01:40 PM »
I got two of these from FFF I think about 7/8 years ago. Both were the same 1 gal size when I got.

The bigger one flowered about 3 years ago. Was able to taste the fruit last year and this year. It had ample amount of blooms but very few fruit set.





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Re: Plinia coronata var. Restinga: a precocious coronata variety
« Reply #24 on: April 09, 2022, 09:19:43 AM »
Xshen,

You’re trees are beautiful!  Do you add anything to your soil or water to adjust for pH or can they take alkaline conditions?  I remember Adam saying that if you prune and expose the branches to sunlight they can fruit faster and better but it does leave the fruits exposed to the birds.

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