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There is a product called sea 90 that is basically sea salt.

I've used it at their recommended rates and never had a problem. Haven't experimented too much with it to say much more about it though.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: thinning out garcinia fruit
« on: May 10, 2023, 12:06:46 PM »
I took a picture this morning.
I'm not sure how big the fruit on brasiliensis get but I have quite a few that are around 1 inch in diameter.
2 of my 5 trees are going crazy now.

From the pictures I've seen of Brasiliensis they looked to be abour 3-4 inches

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Watering for flowering Pitaya
« on: May 08, 2023, 12:26:52 PM »
On this guys channel he built a hydroponic system for his DF. In another video he shows his results and the DF look pretty good to me.

Result Video:

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: thinning out garcinia fruit
« on: May 08, 2023, 12:22:47 PM »
If you want larger fruits I would suggest Garcinia Brasiliensis.

Intermedia fruit size is pretty trivial on every plant I've seen.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: First ever Cherimoya
« on: May 08, 2023, 12:20:46 PM »
I'm offended on behalf of Mark Twain

I'll agree with those who said canistel. While they aren't all dry, they do all taste "off" and the dry ones are like eating an old dried out hard boiled egg yolk. A friend of mine in Miami tried to convince me there are good ones and let me try one of his favorites when I was visiting a few years ago (I don't remember the cultivar), and it still was gross tasting to me. I have had good smoothies that mix it with other things.

Black sapote, on the other hand, is one of my favorite fruits, so I'm surprised to see so much hate here. I like to just eat it with a spoon when properly ripened, but it's also good in a smoothie even when not perfectly ripe. I'm eventually hoping to try to hybridize it with D. texana, which at least has the same chromosome count so might be able to cross (I couldn't find any research papers where it was attempted, though). I have a bunch of texana seedlings I'm planning to trial outside here, and plan to add a grafted black sapote to my greenhouse in a year or so.

You should try "Ross Sapote" before writing off canistel. The ones I've had were like a really good mamey, and I haven't had a mamey that I liked yet.

Noni. Smells like yak hork. I don't know why some people grow it.

The leaves are supposed to be pretty nutritious  8)

Mammee apple makes a good jam with some cinnamon and nutmeg

Theres a feral ivy gourd plant out back I'm waiting for fruit to cook with too

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: OT How to keep cats from landscape
« on: April 24, 2023, 12:22:20 PM »
Motion activated sprinkler

You might also want to share with your neighbor some of the reasons it is important to keep cats indoors.

I tell my mom that they eat cats around here, they tried to pass something outlawing the eating of cats and dogs in Hawaii, but she just laughs it off.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Spacing for a garcina hedge
« on: April 11, 2023, 12:36:12 PM »
FWIW, there is decent "yellow mangosteen" out there.

Theres a 100+ foot tree at the Hilo arboretum here that has good fruits.

The flesh on the inside is sweet/sour, closer to the rind is edible but somewhat acrid.

correct me if Iím wrong but the fruit isnít that crazy; I mean visually sure it looks amazing just not a lot of flesh. Iím pretty sure people use the leaves of the tree as a vanilla substitute

edit: wait I'm confusing the vanilla substitute with pandan

The pandan plant normally used culinarily is Pandanus amaryllifolius, which is not the same as Hala

Hala can be used, and some cultivars have better fruit than others

Always decorticate or at least scarify seeds with heavy shells.

We use a vise grips for decortication to prevent overapplication of force that can damage the seed itself.

We place the seed in between the teeth of the pliers then turn the screw down on it until there is resistance.

For less durable seeds you can just keep turning the screw, or squeeze it by the handle to crack it.

I usually take the entire seed coat off if it is possible.

For canistel seed it cuts germination down to about a month, when it can take over a year without decortication.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WTB BLUE JAVA BANANA PLANTS
« on: April 01, 2023, 01:02:04 PM »
FWIW, blue java is not very high on my list of bananas I've tried.

The ones I've had were really pasty mouth feel and more of a chore to eat than anything.

Seems more of a novelty fruit imo.

If you want tasty I'd look elsewhere, personally.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Variegated sport on my Cara Cara
« on: March 29, 2023, 01:33:35 PM »
We have a variegated Cara Cara from Plant it Hawaii

Aerogels for supercapacitors from durian/jackfruit waste

Monica Gagliano did pavlovian conditioning experiments with pea plants, but I'm pretty sure she said you could do it with almost any plant.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Can Mangosteen be Grown in Florida?
« on: March 26, 2023, 01:09:02 PM »
Using correct common names or better yet latin names is all we have to make sure we are are talking about the same species . There is only 1 mangosteen , the others have their own common names and species names.
Fff has the couple Garcinia growing that do okay in a snap freeze. There are probably 100 + different Garcinia cultivars to grow and a couple are suitable for florida and pretty much none are suitable for anywhere else in the lower 48 as CA is too cold and not humid enough .
Mis identification can prevail for many years and is a huge pet peeve and turn off for many.

As much as this question comes up the answer is always the same, not really.

Seems like this argument is moot when we can and should just use the binomial, imo.

Pretty sure its the rule here that it needs to be in the post title anyway, though not sure if thats applied in the discussion forums.

My mom will call plants "apple" if its in the common name (mountain apple, mammee apple)

Drives me nuts

Iím not sure why people have started attaching ďmangosteenĒ to every Garcinia. Power of association?

No one is being picky by stating this fact: Garcinia mangostana is the one and only Mangosteen.

People do what they want with very little rhyme or reason. Personally I'd say that if a plant is colloquially referred to as (blank) mangosteen, then it is "a mangosteen" for the people who refer to it as such.

This is the entire reason why taxonomy exists to begin with.

There's no reason to go the dogmatic route: "A mangosteen IS a mangosteen"

Just use the binomial

FWIW, I also call it "purple mangosteen" sometimes, like tru. Not really seeing the point of admonishing people for doing so, especially when any confusion can be cleared up with the binomial.

On the flip, just calling garcinia mangostana "mangosteen" may be confusing for the unsophisticated folks who apply "mangosteen" to other species.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Oahu/Hl fruit question!
« on: March 21, 2023, 12:13:53 AM »
Surely youíll see it if youíll be all over Oahu. It is a weed tree in Hawaii, not worthy of propogation by a nursery.

Thanks! I will be driving across the entire island so I am hoping to be able to spot it. Was there a certain area that you've seen it in (if you've been)?

Idk about Oahu but on Hawai'i I've only ever seen them Hilo side, so look in more wet areas.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Oahu/Hl fruit question!
« on: March 20, 2023, 04:17:00 PM »
Surely youíll see it if youíll be all over Oahu. It is a weed tree in Hawaii, not worthy of propogation by a nursery.

I never found the edible cecropia fruit here (Puna area), we had a cecropia tree in the back that I cut down but the fruits were woody and not edible.

Maybe the edible ones are around but I haven't seen them, or maybe we just picked at the wrong time

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherimoya seeds as insecticide?
« on: March 17, 2023, 01:45:34 PM »
Here is an article referring to the use of Annona Squamosa seeds.

Anyway I'd imagine that crushing the seeds would take a lot of effort. Unless you have a machine to do it I'd skip it personally.

Papaya leaves can be used as an insecticide as well.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Garcinia Dulcis vs Xanthochymus
« on: March 16, 2023, 10:22:59 PM »
I had some G. Dulcis at the Hilo Arboretum today and it was pretty good. Some mango flavor and not overly sour, but for the flesh near the rind. I'm interested in how to tell Dulcis apart from xanthochymus because I have some seedlings I need to ID. The leaves look a bit different but there wasn't a xanthochymus there to compare to. The tree was loaded though. We almost had a couple fruits splat on our heads.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit ID Big Island Hawaii
« on: March 13, 2023, 03:29:22 PM »
Super tasty, not much sour at all. Skin is pretty tough tho. Much juicy

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit ID Big Island Hawaii
« on: March 13, 2023, 03:17:23 PM »
Looks like spondias dulcis

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Fruit ID Big Island Hawaii
« on: March 13, 2023, 02:33:22 PM »

I got this fruit from a roadside fruit stand in South Kona. Its about the size of a baseball and is highly aromatic. One of the best things I've ever smelled. The smell is somewhat reminiscent of an apple but also very floral. Will post pics of the inside when I cut it open, hopefully when its ripe.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: How to?
« on: March 07, 2023, 12:33:39 PM »
Maybe try a low pressure aeroponic cloner. You can make one with a 5 gallon bucket, a pump, some poly tubing, hole saw, sprayers, net cups and neoprene collars.

Here's a good example but I made a circle of poly tubing with a riser and some tees and stuck a couple sprayers on the outside part of it. I cut off the bottom of the net cups instead of shoving the neoprene in the holes like the guy does in the video.

Edit: nearpow makes decent infinite repeat timers for the spraying interval. I think we did 10 seconds on and 5 minutes off. You can do interval timing with a tasmota smart switch as well but I dont remember the command to set it.

Tropical Vegetables and Other Edibles / Re: Best fake spinach for FL summer
« on: February 27, 2023, 12:07:10 PM »
As a vegan, I take great affront to the term "fake spinach"

Anyway we like the sissoo spinach, and our tree kale has been going off, though it isnt very spinach-y

I tried the bele but it was super slimy and pretty bitter. Will try again in a soup or something.

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