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Macrophylla Vs FD vs C-35 root stock
« on: May 18, 2023, 05:22:45 PM »
I just purchased a Meyer lemon from Las Vegas not even thinking about root stock. It turns out the root stock is Macrophylla. What are the pros and cons of that root stock?  It will not be living at my house it was a gift and will be in zone 5 so indoors in the winter. I also was going to buy myself one from the same nursery until I realized that rootstock might not be very cold hardy.

So far I have gathered that Macrophylla, is not very cold tolerant, FD is but is very slow growing and that C-35 is cold tolerant and slow  growing. I’m not sure if I got that correct or not.
I also just bought an owari on C-35 that I plan to plant outside with protection. I also want to buy a Meyer lemon, and Meiwa komquat for outside. For inside either another Meyer or a pink lemonade, and a lime. What rootstock is the best for those situations. I would rather have a tree grow faster and produce more fruit and have to trim it than have one that takes forever to grow and bare fruit. Any suggestions?

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Re: Macrophylla Vs FD vs C-35 root stock
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2023, 05:24:04 PM »
Meyer lemon roots easily, so just take cuttings and have it on its own roots.

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Re: Macrophylla Vs FD vs C-35 root stock
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2023, 05:55:23 PM »
How long does it take to get fruit that way? I’m not very patient.

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Re: Macrophylla Vs FD vs C-35 root stock
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2023, 06:24:23 AM »
rooted cuttings bloom immediatly.

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Re: Macrophylla Vs FD vs C-35 root stock
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2023, 02:07:15 AM »
But in order for the rooted stalk to reach an acceptable size for fruiting, 3-4 years will pass.

Do they have citrumelo rootstock?

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Re: Macrophylla Vs FD vs C-35 root stock
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2023, 09:48:42 AM »
I have a valentine pomelo on sour orange that I grafted 6-22-2021.  Bud expansion by august.

I have a Fukushu on flying dragon grafted 6-22-2021 and bud started growing by 0ctober.


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Re: Macrophylla Vs FD vs C-35 root stock
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2023, 02:40:31 AM »
Poncirsguy your trees are amazing. How tall was your root stock when you grafted it? What kind of soil did you use? Thank you for the pictures. They look like they have grown about the same, is that correct?

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Re: Macrophylla Vs FD vs C-35 root stock
« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2023, 09:27:03 AM »
At time of grafting the FD rootstock was 2.5 years old and the sour orange about 1.25 years old.  Growth between the 2 is similar.  The soil is out of my compost pile pine bark mulch.  I did not screen for size.  Sour orange rootstock is on the slow growing side.  My original and only Valentine got sick and I did an emergency graft to save the cultivar and I think the valentine is 6 months younger than listed above.

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Re: Macrophylla Vs FD vs C-35 root stock
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2023, 09:42:34 PM »
Did you grow the root stock yourself or did you buy it?

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Re: Macrophylla Vs FD vs C-35 root stock
« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2023, 10:02:22 AM »
poncirsguy, your FD does not look like it is 2.5 yrs old, it looks much older. I have a 35 year old FD and it's trunk diameter is 2". How large is your FD trunk diameter? Maybe the photo makes it look larger than it is.

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Re: Macrophylla Vs FD vs C-35 root stock
« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2023, 11:42:20 PM »
poncirsguy, your FD does not look like it is 2.5 yrs old, it looks much older. I have a 35 year old FD and it's trunk diameter is 2". How large is your FD trunk diameter? Maybe the photo makes it look larger than it is.
The FD was 2.5 years old at grafting and the tree was grafted 2 years ago so the FD is now 4.5 years old.  The tree was grown under ideal conditions and grew much faster than normal.

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Re: Macrophylla Vs FD vs C-35 root stock
« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2023, 02:26:35 PM »
ok, got it, makes more sense to me now.

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Re: Macrophylla Vs FD vs C-35 root stock
« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2023, 07:57:01 PM »
It is very easy to set up perfect growing conditions so a small tree can grow 3 years worth in 1 year.

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Re: Macrophylla Vs FD vs C-35 root stock
« Reply #13 on: June 02, 2023, 09:20:35 PM »
Poncirusguy, any tips on doing so? I assume containers and extending the growing season?

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Re: Macrophylla Vs FD vs C-35 root stock
« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2023, 05:33:41 AM »
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Re: Macrophylla Vs FD vs C-35 root stock
« Reply #15 on: July 11, 2023, 03:43:34 PM »
Poncirusguy, any tips on doing so? I assume containers and extending the growing season?
I grow them under lights 16 hours per day at 75F all winter into spring for extra good growth

Plant inside container.