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Title: Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
Post by: shiro on January 19, 2020, 09:15:07 AM: Morning, everybody.
One of my colleagues may at this time have access to these various varieties of Annona Cherimola Scions for trade.

My colleague being himself registered on this forum you can go directly through him .
link :
http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=35958.0 (http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=35958.0)

He collected scions from among the 51 varieties of cherimoya below, the ones written in capital letters.
The 6 varieties written in lower case are not harvested, but if anyone is interested he can make the effort to go back.
The 45 varieties in uppercase are bagged and ready to be sent tomorrow Monday.

AFRICAN PRIDE

ANDERSON

ANDREWS

AZAPA II

BALWIN

BONITA CORONA

BOLIVIA 1

BRONCEADA

BURTON'S (favorite?)

Campas or compas

CARTER

CHIUNA 1

CHIUNA 2

CHIUNA 3

CHIUNA3 TEMPRANA

CHIUNA3 TARDIA

CHILENA

CORAZON

CUMBE

DELICIOSA

DUDOZA

EL BUMPO

ECUADOR

ECUATORIAN

ESPINOSA M

FINO de JETE

HALUZA

HILL

JOY

KNIGHT

LISA DE PUELLARO

LEON

LIBBY

LOCAL SERENA

LUCIDA

MOSSMAN

manteca

MIRA VISTA

MC PHERSON

MARIELLA

NE....

ORTON

OTT

PALIZZI

PERU SEED 24

pierce

pinchudo

RERETAI

SALMON

SICILIA 3

sabor

In exchange, he's mainly looking for the varieties:

Annona Selma ( with coloured flesh )

but you can make your proposals directly to him in PM but preferably with Annona.

Possible to exchange cold hardy Annona Cherimola seeds ( -5°C ) without damage with seeds:
Annona stenophylla
Annona neosalicifolia
Annona ubatubensis
Annona cacans
And dugetia furfuracea
Title: Re: Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
Post by: shiro on January 19, 2020, 09:48:23 AM: This message is an error on my part
Title: Re: Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
Post by: linsecte on January 20, 2020, 01:29:04 AM: I am the collector of this list, and i add 4 varieties i could share:

LOMA
SANTA ROSA
CARMELA
ESPAIN or SPAIN

seeds:
I saw price 1 € for 1 or 2 seeds depending variety, with minimum 10€ order.
I also have unnamed seeds, all from varieties but mixed, that could be 10€ for 30 seeds.
And seeds that are from all fino de Jete, from cultures without cross pollinisation by different varieties together: 10€ for 60 seeds for example.

https://paypal.me/fruitforestier

https://paypal.me/fruitforestier

I WILL maybe HAVE NO OTHER OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE THESE CHERIMOYAS IN THE FUTURE, BECAUSE I DON'T LIVE IN SPAIN WHERE i hope success them. I rarely go in spain where i want to complete this collection with your scions of Selma, dream,chaffey, honeyhart, and others cold hardy and coloured ones.

Thank you very much Shiro, so that anyone could write us both, cause i'm not everytime connected with internet, while i travell and sleep in my car.

has someone experience to graft it? How long would ne the woods ?
On the topic you above gave link shiro i will put some grafting photos (fruit and seeds photos below on the present topic).

On south coast spain andalusia could i graft now, in january? on the other topic Shiro gave link, please share your grafting experience, i will share my cuttings.

and i can exchange or sell some cuttings, just tell me how large and long you need it.

witch ones will be cold hardy? flesh coloured?

thanks a lot! :)

(https://i.postimg.cc/hhp3r63D/IMG-20200125-084838.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/hhp3r63D)
Title: Re: Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
Post by: linsecte on January 20, 2020, 01:34:39 AM: about cherimoya varieties, someone told me pierce is very good flavor, dr white cold hardy? selma pink flesh?

about grafting, how many time cuttings could be stored?
Title: Re: Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
Post by: Bush2Beach on January 20, 2020, 02:06:22 PM: Pierce is great flavor, Dr. white is not more cold hardy , splits and drops when cold and rainy, HoneyHart and Licia have been cold hardy producers.
You can store in the fridge vegetable drawer for a week or two and then graft.

Quote from: linsecte on January 20, 2020, 01:34:39 AM
about cherimoya varieties, someone told me pierce is very good flavor, dr white cold hardy? selma pink flesh?

about grafting, how many time cuttings could be stored?
Title: Re: Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
Post by: Seanny on January 20, 2020, 07:54:09 PM: Chaffey tree is most cold tolerance, White tree is most heat tolerance.
Seedling of these cross has both features.
Title: Re: Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
Post by: linsecte on January 20, 2020, 11:48:47 PM: Thank you. Will someone provide me these cold tolerant varieties ?

later i will put photos of my varieties.

cuttings:
I only exchange my cuttings of varieties, cause they cost me thousands euros so i cannot find a fair price, and my goal is to complete my collection.
When i'll success exchange, maybe after could sell, depends of what i agreed when exchange.

seeds:
I saw price 1 € for 1 or 2 seeds depending variety, with minimum 10€ order.
I also have unnamed seeds, all from varieties but mixed, that could be 10€ for 30 seeds.
And seeds that are from all fino de Jete, from cultures without cross pollinisation by different varieties together: 10€ for 60 seeds for example.

https://paypal.me/fruitforestier

they are in good conservation conditions but
this week i could take others that i didn't cut yet: varieties that are write in little caracters in the list if they are interesting?
Title: Re: Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
Post by: FV Fruit Freak on January 21, 2020, 02:00:45 AM: Is El Bumpo or Sabor a better variety?
Title: Re: Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
Post by: linsecte on January 21, 2020, 05:26:39 AM: For taste? Ricardo from portugal says Best flavor seems to be Pierce.
But i am waiting the fruits i took to ripe to write my feeling.
but cuttings are cut from sunday, so it will be to send quickly, or maybe i could take new ones, but not sure because it's very far from my house!
Title: Re: Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
Post by: linsecte on January 21, 2020, 05:56:28 AM: i have good experience in exchange (fruitiers.net) and graft some species but no experience with cherimoya, but i keep them in better conditions in plastic not dirctly wet but in moist fresh atmosphere.
2 members writes they could be stored 1 wek or 2, but On the other topic (link above), Spaugh writes it is probably possible to keep them until march in refrigerator sealed with tape.
i have not specific experience with cherimoya to give any opinion.
but i have parafilm m, i could seal the cuttings i will send.
could also sell some parafilm m... if you want a few meters of.
Title: Re: Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
Post by: FV Fruit Freak on January 21, 2020, 04:27:46 PM: Quote from: Bush2Beach on January 20, 2020, 02:06:22 PM
Pierce is great flavor, Dr. white is not more cold hardy , splits and drops when cold and rainy, HoneyHart and Licia have been cold hardy producers.
You can store in the fridge vegetable drawer for a week or two and then graft.

Quote from: linsecte on January 20, 2020, 01:34:39 AM
about cherimoya varieties, someone told me pierce is very good flavor, dr white cold hardy? selma pink flesh?

about grafting, how many time cuttings could be stored?

Do you think the flavor of pierce is better than el bumpo bush2beach?
Title: Re: Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
Post by: linsecte on January 22, 2020, 02:33:00 AM: I have LOMA seeds, is it interesting for anything?

I only tasted 6 of all these 53 varieties... I wait maturation of some others but some varieties don't have any more fruits in the tree. I will soon put some photos of those i picked (here?).
and i didn't yet taste neither El BUMPO, neither PIERCE... there is no more el bumpo in the tree now, but i wait one pierce fruit to ripe!
Title: Re: Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
Post by: linsecte on January 23, 2020, 05:35:22 AM: I also have
LOMA
SANTA ROSA
CARMELA
ESPAIN or SPAIN

i will put the photos in around 10 hours.
will someone accept exchange with me to complete our both collection?
Title: Re: Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
Post by: linsecte on January 23, 2020, 10:36:58 PM: (https://i.postimg.cc/fth4L24p/IMG-20200124-042539.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/fth4L24p)
When my samples ripes, below are m'y photos per variety, fruit seeds and description. On photo of seeds you could see how many seeds was on thé fruit.
each variety i will write "less sugar" when less than in fino de jete, "more sugar" will mean more than in f de jete, and when i will not write anything about sugar will mean same as f de jete. Same for flavour, and fino de jete don't have nor sourness nor bitterness, so i will write something about only when it will be différent from f de jete. Same for texture when i will not write something about, means same yogourt texture as f de jete. Let me know if i could provide more information usefull for future identifications.
url=https://postimg.cc/dkm0tZfR](https://i.postimg.cc/dkm0tZfR/IMG20200123145926.jpg)[/url]
Title: Re: Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
Post by: linsecte on January 23, 2020, 11:19:35 PM: Local Serena

(https://i.postimg.cc/TLCJ51Lm/IMG-20200121-212440.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/TLCJ51Lm)
I Bégin by one of the biggest varieties, thé fruit in my hand on thé above post. will complete this post on a few days, when m'y local Serena fruit will ripe. Adding then taste description and inside photo and seeds photo.

A few days after, the heart formation turned too ripe without being soft before. Is it because variety ?

(https://i.postimg.cc/ZBLLkXwz/IMG-20200125-224418.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ZBLLkXwz)

(https://i.postimg.cc/xqtP6DkK/IMG-20200125-224300.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xqtP6DkK)

A few days later i ate the other fruit, juicy but less sugar and taste than fj. Maybe unripe as it was still hard but one part started molding, it was touching à plastic bag that is not optimal
Title: Re: Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
Post by: linsecte on January 23, 2020, 11:30:56 PM: Ott

(https://i.postimg.cc/f3W3tKx2/IMG20200122070020.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/f3W3tKx2)

(https://i.postimg.cc/5QzjdkV0/IMG20200122070149.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/5QzjdkV0)

(https://i.postimg.cc/kBxDTZsY/IMG20200122075530.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/kBxDTZsY)
Ott variety m'y first fruit was "more sugar" (i don't use the word sweet because it also means no sour no bitter). Means more sugar than fini de jete, but the second fruit was not so tasty.
Title: Re: Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
Post by: linsecte on January 23, 2020, 11:46:07 PM: Hill

(https://i.postimg.cc/VrqjQRcz/IMG-20200121-175839.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/VrqjQRcz)

(https://i.postimg.cc/TKKgYGX7/IMG-20200121-212600.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/TKKgYGX7)

(https://i.postimg.cc/21gv1Jkz/IMG-20200121-212528.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/21gv1Jkz)
Difficult to say if it has maybe a little bit more taste than f jete
A few days later, yes the 2d was more juice and sugar than fj!

(https://i.postimg.cc/K4Cvt4Zw/IMG-20200125-225257.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/K4Cvt4Zw)

(https://i.postimg.cc/94XWc7pR/IMG-20200125-225220.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/94XWc7pR)

(https://i.postimg.cc/4mzZt52H/IMG-20200125-225151.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/4mzZt52H)

(https://i.postimg.cc/HcqD8cQt/IMG-20200125-223801.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/HcqD8cQt)
;D
Title: Re: Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
Post by: linsecte on January 23, 2020, 11:52:38 PM: Chiuna2

(https://i.postimg.cc/RNyqdHjd/IMG-20200121-212002.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/RNyqdHjd)

(https://i.postimg.cc/5Y4tyqC4/IMG-20200121-211852.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/5Y4tyqC4)

(https://i.postimg.cc/jDyqhk6q/IMG-20200121-211819.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/jDyqhk6q)
As you Can see on seeds photo, i use only half fruit seeds. Hard texture but bitter, i didn't want to finish eat the second part.

A few days later, surprise : an other fruit was very good, more sugar more flavour than fj, only a few seeds.

Chiuna3 was my best expérience, with a very little bit acidity that chiuna 1 and 2 didn't have.
Title: Re: Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
Post by: linsecte on January 23, 2020, 11:57:56 PM: Bonita Corona

(https://i.postimg.cc/WtZytLs4/IMG-20200121-213725.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WtZytLs4)

(https://i.postimg.cc/McXPSgsq/IMG-20200121-214032.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/McXPSgsq)

(https://i.postimg.cc/5XKgnnfG/IMG-20200121-213233.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/5XKgnnfG)

Was toi ripe a little bit alcoolic but éven like this it's a "more sugar" variety.
Title: Re: Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
Post by: linsecte on January 24, 2020, 12:15:16 AM: Fino de jete

The usually cultivated on spain, fruiting from october to march...

(https://i.postimg.cc/SXfm826g/IMG-20200124-061001.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/SXfm826g)

(https://i.postimg.cc/TLjQTGXL/IMG-20200124-061048.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/TLjQTGXL)

Usually pale Green, but in a friend's place a few ones are more dark as compared on this photo. Dark ones have much more sugar, and in mouth seeds are little bit longer to séparate from flesh
Title: Re: Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
Post by: linsecte on January 24, 2020, 12:16:39 AM: Ecuador
For hard flesh lovers.
A little bit difficult to know when fruit is ripe as he stays hard éven ripe. A lot of fruits, but no more hang on tree on january, as most varieties.

I have an error message that i cannot load any more photos because not enough memory, is it limited on thé forum topic ?
(https://i.postimg.cc/Vr3R96BV/IMG-20200124-061952.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Vr3R96BV)
Title: Re: Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
Post by: linsecte on January 24, 2020, 06:07:02 AM: Loma
Then ripening 3 insipide varieties... first Loma, no sugar no Flavie, hard flesh.

(https://i.postimg.cc/BjVcLc2f/IMG-20200124-115237.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/BjVcLc2f)

(https://i.postimg.cc/LgDjHzm7/IMG-20200124-115303.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/LgDjHzm7)

(https://i.postimg.cc/Mnv3FGDx/IMG-20200124-115337.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Mnv3FGDx)
Title: Re: Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
Post by: linsecte on January 24, 2020, 06:10:44 AM: Mossman
Probably champion of bigger seeds, no sugar no flavour,
Hard flesh

(https://i.postimg.cc/vgJGcjZx/IMG-20200124-115629.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/vgJGcjZx)

(https://i.postimg.cc/qtffcndW/IMG-20200124-115652.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qtffcndW)

(https://i.postimg.cc/ykW2wn1w/IMG-20200124-115716.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ykW2wn1w)
Title: Re: Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
Post by: linsecte on January 24, 2020, 06:14:09 AM: Lisa de puellaro
Also nous sugar, no flavor and hard flesh, it has very low quantity of seeds but an other Big cherimoya variety has this particularité, with better taste.

(https://i.postimg.cc/CR5MrbX1/IMG-20200124-115521.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/CR5MrbX1)

(https://i.postimg.cc/qgrnRMzL/IMG-20200124-115543.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qgrnRMzL)

(https://i.postimg.cc/1gpXhwcZ/IMG-20200124-115606.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/1gpXhwcZ)
Title: Re: Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
Post by: linsecte on January 25, 2020, 08:31:37 AM: 4xx
This is a code name of one of my unknown varieties. Similar fino de jete with less seeds. The quantity of seeds on photo belongs to the open fruit, as on my other publications.

(https://i.postimg.cc/MnJp9X2s/IMG-20200125-111838.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/MnJp9X2s)

(https://i.postimg.cc/R6WmSzx6/IMG-20200125-111936.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/R6WmSzx6)
Title: Re: Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
Post by: linsecte on January 25, 2020, 08:36:14 AM: 2xx
Similar f jete (fj), but the bigger leafes are as small as on the photo... And thé seed has a spécial border

(https://i.postimg.cc/rR6w7pRF/IMG-20200125-111908.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/rR6w7pRF)

(https://i.postimg.cc/nsgFQLkY/IMG-20200125-112008.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/nsgFQLkY)

(https://i.postimg.cc/HjCJSSw0/IMG-20200125-112155.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/HjCJSSw0)

(https://i.postimg.cc/ppLL73pj/IMG-20200125-112226.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ppLL73pj)
Title: Re: Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
Post by: linsecte on January 25, 2020, 08:43:38 AM: Santa Rosa
I think it has little bit less sugar and less aroma than FT (fino de jete), but i don't know why i prefer Santa Rosa, i cannot explain because more often i prefer when there is more sugar. The seeds are différent from most cherimoyas, most Santa Rosa seeds looks like sunflower seeds.

(https://i.postimg.cc/w3y1TC6d/IMG-20200125-112331.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/w3y1TC6d)

(https://i.postimg.cc/KRQhXYdc/IMG20200125095157.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/KRQhXYdc)

(https://i.postimg.cc/CzKSxDCn/IMG20200125095221.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/CzKSxDCn)

(https://i.postimg.cc/jLhcZwBc/IMG-20200125-144311.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/jLhcZwBc)
Title: Re: Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
Post by: linsecte on January 25, 2020, 09:35:28 AM: Campa

(https://i.postimg.cc/grzdByMs/IMG-20200125-144437.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/grzdByMs)

(https://i.postimg.cc/876VrZ5p/IMG-20200125-144504.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/876VrZ5p)

(https://i.postimg.cc/wtNTg6Jk/IMG-20200125-144539.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/wtNTg6Jk)

(https://i.postimg.cc/KK2C3Fwf/IMG-20200125-144626.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/KK2C3Fwf)

(https://i.postimg.cc/18pjQ2Xq/IMG-20200125-144703.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/18pjQ2Xq)
Title: Re: Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
Post by: linsecte on January 25, 2020, 09:40:35 AM: Pierce

(https://i.postimg.cc/nCqyFCwr/IMG-20200125-144735.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/nCqyFCwr)

(https://i.postimg.cc/hQT5t5s6/IMG-20200125-144804.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/hQT5t5s6)

(https://i.postimg.cc/wyJVXsNs/IMG-20200125-144832.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/wyJVXsNs)

(https://i.postimg.cc/tZT1y0qR/IMG-20200125-144931.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/tZT1y0qR)
Title: Re: Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
Post by: linsecte on January 25, 2020, 09:42:45 AM: Lucida
Very good more sugar

(https://i.postimg.cc/8JJ6M8qK/IMG-20200125-145157.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/8JJ6M8qK)

(https://i.postimg.cc/Y4V4pnh1/IMG-20200125-145226.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Y4V4pnh1)
Title: Re: Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
Post by: linsecte on January 25, 2020, 09:45:49 AM: 44
Juicy, little less sugar and aroma than fj

(https://i.postimg.cc/QVNCWKTB/IMG-20200125-145426.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/QVNCWKTB)

(https://i.postimg.cc/JGfRKsG5/IMG-20200125-145510.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JGfRKsG5)

(https://i.postimg.cc/wtHg8n5t/IMG-20200125-145536.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/wtHg8n5t)
Title: Re: Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
Post by: linsecte on January 25, 2020, 09:46:46 AM: Carmela

(https://i.postimg.cc/1VFjz3sy/IMG-20200125-145306.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/1VFjz3sy)
Title: Re: Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
Post by: linsecte on January 25, 2020, 09:47:42 AM: Orton
More sugar
Hard flesh
Seeds don't stick to flesh, as morever they have some air around each.

(https://i.postimg.cc/BLrmRfDk/IMG-20200125-145341.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/BLrmRfDk)

(https://i.postimg.cc/9rtLgSfg/IMG-20200125-145401.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/9rtLgSfg)
Title: Re: Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
Post by: linsecte on January 25, 2020, 09:49:28 AM: Pinchudo

(https://i.postimg.cc/4KLf6Btm/IMG-20200125-145621.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/4KLf6Btm)

(https://i.postimg.cc/fJcM2wm4/IMG-20200125-145648.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/fJcM2wm4)

(https://i.postimg.cc/nCZyLqj5/IMG-20200125-145723.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/nCZyLqj5)

(https://i.postimg.cc/gnzGTCDn/IMG-20200125-145755.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gnzGTCDn)
Title: Re: Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
Post by: linsecte on January 25, 2020, 09:50:15 AM: Sabor

(https://i.postimg.cc/ct1PFSSW/IMG-20200125-145832.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ct1PFSSW)
Maybe thèse hard unedible fruits are from rootstock ?
Title: Re: Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
Post by: linsecte on January 25, 2020, 09:54:18 AM: X16
More sugar, not any aciditic, i compared a few Times with différents fj, fj has little less sugar and a very slight aciditic. I prefer x16

(https://i.postimg.cc/TKxN0xq4/IMG-20200125-145918.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/TKxN0xq4)

(https://i.postimg.cc/q6nQcDtr/IMG-20200125-150000.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/q6nQcDtr)

(https://i.postimg.cc/nCb3Vx5h/IMG-20200125-150028.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/nCb3Vx5h)

(https://i.postimg.cc/xc330zM6/IMG-20200125-150057.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xc330zM6)

(https://i.postimg.cc/N5DRhwvV/IMG-20200125-150122.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/N5DRhwvV)

(https://i.postimg.cc/Xrh8h0wW/IMG-20200125-150145.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Xrh8h0wW)

(https://i.postimg.cc/jCZymbb1/IMG-20200125-150217.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/jCZymbb1)
Title: Re: Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
Post by: linsecte on January 25, 2020, 05:05:53 PM: 410
Less sugar and very slight bitterness.

(https://i.postimg.cc/DSBFZzmS/IMG-20200125-223722.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/DSBFZzmS)

(https://i.postimg.cc/mhBsQMMP/IMG-20200125-224030.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mhBsQMMP)

(https://i.postimg.cc/CZk38LxC/IMG-20200125-224156.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/CZk38LxC)
Title: Re: Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
Post by: Seanny on January 25, 2020, 08:24:12 PM: Any seedless?
Title: Re: Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
Post by: linsecte on January 26, 2020, 01:36:39 AM: Not totally seedless, but Big différences of quàntity of seeds, as you Can see because the seeds on photos belongs to the open fruit of the before photo.
I hope i could taste the first photo of fruit of this topic, my 2d and last Local Serena. Will it become soft when ripe ? The 1st didn't. I complète some post in this topic. I'm in a mostly full cherimoya diet!..
Title: Re: Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
Post by: linsecte on January 31, 2020, 02:56:11 AM: Burton's favorite
IS it thé same as burton's?
More juice and flavor. Same sugar as fj. Flesh IS as soft but difficult to explain, don't give same feeling of yogourt of fj and (e)spain.
I modify this publication to add asked photos
;D

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Title: Re: Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
Post by: linsecte on January 31, 2020, 02:58:35 AM: (e)spain
IS it spain or espain?
Same fj, with less seeds on little fruits around 4 seeds.
Fruit more little than fj.
I will put photos later, i'm very busy grafting!
:D
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Title: Re: Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
Post by: linsecte on January 31, 2020, 10:43:08 PM: If someone's interested i will take time to put more photos
Title: Re: Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
Post by: slv.work on February 02, 2020, 05:53:49 AM: Hello
do you have seeds of Cumbe?
Title: Re: Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
Post by: slv.work on February 05, 2020, 08:39:09 AM: Quote from: linsecte on January 31, 2020, 10:43:08 PM
If someone's interested i will take time to put more photos

yes, please post more photos
Title: Re: Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
Post by: linsecte on February 07, 2020, 11:44:35 PM: Ok so i start by something else pepper
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Title: Re: Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
Post by: linsecte on February 07, 2020, 11:48:40 PM: 'gefner' atemoya
Then come back subject, first this strange hybrid.
Does everyone has this broken fruit, hard with no taste nor juice ?

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Title: Re: Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
Post by: linsecte on February 08, 2020, 12:50:04 AM: Palizzi
No taste, bitter, i eat only half!
Other nammed varieties maybe good or Bad i didn't have fruits this year. I have some unnamed varieties but it won't help if i publish them. Si probably this topic photos will ends here for this year, i only have seeds on photo.
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Title: Re: Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
Post by: linsecte on February 08, 2020, 12:57:29 AM: Léon
Others varieties of m'y list i have cuttings, such as this little leafes variety. Does someone knows if it's cold hardy ? Does cold hardy varieties have little leafes ?

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Here compares Léon leafe with usually variety leafe cultivated same place same conditions
Title: Re: Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
Post by: Seanny on February 08, 2020, 11:02:07 AM: Gefner Atemoya needs more days on tree than cherimoya.
Gefner prone to split in cold weather when near maturity.
Title: Re: Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
Post by: linsecte on February 08, 2020, 11:34:46 PM: Quote from: slv.work on February 02, 2020, 05:53:49 AM
Hello
do you have seeds of Cumbe?
Sorry this year i only have the seeds i put photos of. But keep in mind seeds will not give the original variety, but a mix of 2 varieties, and for cherimoyas, something wilder.
https://paypal.me/fruitforestier
Title: Re: Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
Post by: linsecte on December 11, 2021, 04:42:53 PM: I mostly hope make exchange. Know varieties I could sell, such as cumbe, etc... But the exclusive varieties, those very rare nobody else have, I would like to exchange for some rare things I listed yesterday in some other topics ( main wish list in the topic "annonacees temperate", and my citation in topic "cherimoya grafting")
Why you wanted seeds of 'cumbe'? Is there some info you could share about this variety?
I have 3 fruits of cumbe (will ripe later).

Leafes identification :
Before I said Leon have very little leafe, but it was because too much sun with not enough water. 2 years after my grafts, I see leafes size depends more of exosition and irrigation. Depending on the variety, The bigger leafes are only half longer than the more little ones (in similar conditions). Not 2 or 3 times longer as I thought before.
I noticed that some varieties have rond leafes such as santa rosa, or long leafes for joy.

Fruits size:
The more remarkable is 'gladiator' new variety: I try to publicate a photo, but I think it could be much more huge with ferilisant and more water. All the trees here miss ferilisant and water. Some leafes dry.
It this finca, avocadoes are half size compared to usual. It makes me think in good cultural conditions, this cherimoya will be much bigger than on my photo
Ok, for the moment I don't understand how to add a photo this year. Maybe I will try later with a computer. The unripe fruit is at least 2 times bigger than my large hand
Title: Re: Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
Post by: linsecte on December 12, 2021, 04:39:41 AM: What I could send: anona cherimola:
Balwin 7
Bronceada 12b
Burton's 12c
Campas 14 and 3pp
Carmela? 3jl
Cumbe 4a
Deliciosa 10
Gladiator 1
Haluza 3:00, 14
Joy? 2
Léon ? 3m, 5c
Lucida 3i
Mc person in 2023 4c, 5a?
Orton 16
Pierce 1
Pinchudo 3nnn
Reretai 14
Sabor 14
Santa rosa 2c
Sicilia 3 :10

My wish list for subtropicals climate: good selections of:
A. Salzmanii
A. Diversifolia (pink)
A. Cherimola 'selma'
Rollinia deliciosa

My wish list for temperate climates (please tell me if I mistake or forgett some, and how edible they are)

Annona :
Cacans
Coriacea
Longiflora
Stenophylla
Rugulosa
Neosalicifolia
Ubatubensis
Senegaiensis

Duguetia :
Lanceolata
Phaeoclados
Furfuracea
...
Porcelia macrocarpa
Rollinia sylvatica
A. Montana 'guanabana'.
Polyalthia cerasoides
Guatteria carchiana
Xylopia odoratissima
...
Title: Re: Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
Post by: elouicious on December 12, 2021, 08:31:09 AM: I'm sorry you are saying those annona will grow in true temperate climates? I was, perhaps wrongly, under the impression most of those fruits listed in the temperate section were in fact tropical

I have annona senegalensis
Title: Re: Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
Post by: linsecte on December 14, 2021, 06:49:25 PM: Hi
They are a little bit more cold-hardy than cherimoyas. 1 or 2 of them are more cold hardy at 20f and 25f regarding what I read in forum. From Uruguay, south brazil. Did you taste yours? How is it?
You could contact me for example telegram or Whatsapp, +33 750 29 39 47
So that we could agree what to exchange
Thank you!
Cheers
Title: Re: Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
Post by: linsecte on December 15, 2021, 01:36:15 AM: Quote from: elouicious on December 12, 2021, 08:31:09 AM
I'm sorry you are saying those annona will grow in true temperate climates? I was, perhaps wrongly, under the impression most of those fruits listed in the temperate section were in fact tropical

I have annona senegalensis
Answer: in the precedent above
Title: Re: Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
Post by: elouicious on December 16, 2021, 11:48:13 AM: Quote from: linsecte on December 14, 2021, 06:49:25 PM
Hi
They are a little bit more cold-hardy than cherimoyas. 1 or 2 of them are more cold hardy at 20f and 25f regarding what I read in forum. From Uruguay, south brazil. Did you taste yours? How is it?
You could contact me for example telegram or Whatsapp, +33 750 29 39 47
So that we could agree what to exchange
Thank you!
Cheers

Thank you I will!

I have not tasted it yet-