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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Early St Ann Satsuma
« on: October 13, 2022, 07:36:17 AM »

Hereís my St Anne on poncirus. In cold frame that I do for all my non-hybrids. Got it from Simply Citrus in SC several years ago. Just started growing this summer after a crabapple tree fell that was next to it and blocking sun. Iíve been cutting immature fruit off to get tree to grow more. I do small space heaters and water barrels to keep them alive in winter. My satsuma trees and grapefruit have done well with this method even through a month below freezing and lows of zero or below from sundown to sun up.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: My first poncirus fruit to drop this year
« on: October 08, 2022, 11:22:55 PM »
Millet, my poncirus and flying dragon trees donít get any protection in winter. Neither do my Dunstan or 80-5. This past winter was mild and I didnít protect citradia or Thomasville and citradia only lost a few feet of last yearís growth and Thomasville cut in half. I didnít protect my 15 foot tall Changsha on own roots and it died down to three feet tall, but now growing back hard to five feet. They wouldnít have been damaged at all if I didnít get down to 14 degrees in mid March after a prolonged warming in February.

Cold Hardy Citrus / My first poncirus fruit to drop this year
« on: October 08, 2022, 07:27:29 AM »

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Identify this citrus tree
« on: October 03, 2022, 12:24:50 PM »
I bet itís a sour orange. Large leaf with substantial petiole. Would do well in that North FL area without protection in winter.

I just put mine near a south or west facing window. The problem with citrus indoors is spider mites. I spray them with neem oil solution or haul them outside once a week if not freezing and blast the underside of leaves with hose. I have also put them in the shower to let it rain on them. Mites donít like water or humidity. It helps to put a humidifier near your plants too. My in ground citrus in cold frames get water hosed once a week also when not freezing outside. They do better outside in cold frames I think because they get the natural humidity. Once my frames are set up, my maintenance on the cold frame citrus is easier/ less work than the potted ones in the house. Despite my efforts last year, I still had one potted indoor lemon tree defoliate from mites and didnít recover until put back outside in spring.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Could it be citrus greening? Europe
« on: October 01, 2022, 07:48:56 PM »
Even if you have an infected tree, you wonít have psillids in Poland to spread it.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Trifoliate orange
« on: September 18, 2022, 10:02:43 PM »
I think Swingle citrumelo is a decent lemon. Iíve made lemon pie with it. I drink poncirus lemonade. I just boil the juice and siphon off the bitter oil after it settles out in a jar in fridge overnight. Then freeze the juice in one cup freezer containers. I mix one cup of processed poncirus juice to a full size orange juice decanter and add nine truvia packets and stir. I have an orange juice glass of this lemonade every morning with breakfast.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Ripening time of hardy citrus
« on: September 08, 2022, 07:12:54 AM »
My Owari and Kimbrough satsumas and Ichang lemons ripen in late November through December. My first freeze is usually around Halloween. I have to cover all fruiting trees by Halloween to preserve fruit. I have a Saint Anne satsuma but not fruited yet; it may ripen earlier.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Kumquat x Poncirus
« on: June 05, 2022, 06:32:46 PM »
I like Meiwa. I wonder if the skin on a Meiwa/poncirus hybrid will taste nice. Or it might taste like poncirus. Wonít know til yía pop it in your mouth and chew it up!

Bonsai. When cultivating bonsai using fruit bearing trees such as citrus or crabapples, one usually uses a little deeper pot to provide a little more nutritional support from a larger root mass. Need good drainage, regular watering, and adequate fertilizer to keep up with the frequent watering.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Marsh Seedless White Grapefruit
« on: May 21, 2022, 09:36:02 PM »
Iím harvesting my Rio Reds and Croxton grapefruit now too. They have to be on tree almost a year and a half to ripen here too.

I cut open three fruit this morning. All were mostly pith and desicated. I agree with SoCal2warm: tree too small. My Rio Red made small pithy fruit the first few years, now the fruit is much better. Fruit may have frozen and dried out when it went to 14 degrees two nights in March. Even with space heater inside portable greenhouses, I didnít have a 32 gallon water barrel in this one or my bergamot or shiranui, and the bergamot and shiranui almost died from that late freeze. They did well the previous winter, but this warmer winter followed by a hard freeze shocked them too much I guess, even though they were not showing signs of active growth yet.

I donít think I have a lack of cold weather problem here in western NC. Iím going to cut open some fruit and assess further.

Why would my 5 ft tall Seville sour orange tree have fruit that wonít ripen after a year and a half? Grew great last year and blooming great this spring.

Iím giving up on my from-seed papedas which die back every year from cold. I have/had two left that went unprotected this winter and kept green leaves all winter which was unusually warm, and pretty much died after two nights of 14 degrees in mid March. Cold hardy citrus is only hardy while dormant. Two weeks with temps in seventies and sixties followed by a polar plunge kills. Even my citranges look like garbage right now and my 15 foot tall Changsha unprotected this winter looks like a dry tumble weed although still green for now when scratch bark.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Pollen collection and storage
« on: April 18, 2022, 07:07:38 PM »
Thanks. Iím trying to hit open flowers with paint brush but nothing seems to stick to it. My paw paw pollen sticks to paint brush easily like yellow dust. I donít feel confident about the citrus pollination.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Pollen collection and storage
« on: April 18, 2022, 12:39:21 PM »
I donít know about plastic envelope. From what I read it only mentions drying it out so itís not wet and freezing it. Seems it would mold or be too wet in plastic. Some talk about putting it in glass tubes. I just donít know. Three weeks sounds good though. Just need a few days.

Citrus General Discussion / Pollen collection and storage
« on: April 18, 2022, 10:08:16 AM »
Iím collecting pollen from poncirus and put it in a paper envelope. I need it to pollinate an orange tree with flowers with white unopened buds that may open in a few days. Iíve read about drying out pollen and then freezing it to use months later. Can my pollen stay viable in an envelope for a week or two without having to freeze it? How do I know when to strip petals off of unopened blossoms to access a mature pistil?

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Poncirus perfect flowers vs. staminate flowers
« on: April 15, 2022, 08:57:15 PM »
A lot, actually most of my poncirus flower buds froze off this spring thanks to a warm winter followed by a fabulous two days of 14 degrees F in mid March. Anyway, I was outside today trying to extract pollen from the few flowers that are showing up. I noticed that some flowers only have stunted stamens inside and some only have pistils. A few had perfect flowers with nice yellow pollen on stamens.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Poncirus+ early bud break
« on: April 09, 2022, 10:15:19 PM »
My poncirus often bloom before my other citrus varieties and the blooms canít withstand a freeze. Some years I donít get poncirus fruit.

Know that Woodlanders sells seedlings. Ichangensis does not always come true from seed so probably a hybrid. I have seedlings from a fruit I got from Woodlanders and from another place and the main leaves are a little longer than petiole at least most are.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Georgia Grower Rapidly Reacts to HLB Find
« on: February 23, 2022, 10:19:42 PM »
I just learned from a commercial grower in south GA ( actually, I believe she was the author of this article) at our annual southeastern citrus expo last November that they have now determined that the psyllid  is not killed by cold temperatures and that they are found hiding under the leaves even during freezing temperatures. They are bagging the trees there to give protection from psyllids  and for additional freeze protection. At one point they said you would have to be somewhere where it stays below freezing for three days or more to kill the psyllid. This past winter, we didnít even stay below freezing for a 24 hour period here in western NC. Global warming is going to bring the bugs further north. They also say hurricanes can blow them north too.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Leaves slowly willting
« on: February 22, 2022, 07:14:33 AM »
Iíve seen a lot of my cold hardy citrus die when the bark at the base splits like this. It splits on the south side of the tree in spring after temps have risen enough to cause sap to flow and break dormancy, followed by a freeze that splits the bark. The trees need to stay cold and dormant as long as possible throughout fall, winter, spring. Some blooming and growing in winter even in the greenhouse is a problem since temperatures will drop below freezing in the greenhouse even with supplemental heating when outside temperatures get cold enough. Signs of new growth in March is a bad sign here.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Winter care
« on: February 18, 2022, 08:44:12 PM »
My Chandler is a new grafted potted whip. Just got it this fall. Hasnít bloomed or fruited yet.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Winter care
« on: February 15, 2022, 10:54:02 PM »
The few citrus that I have overwintered in my house have not grown during winter although it is warm indoors and they were in a south window. As they got bigger and pots got heavier I got really aggravated every time I had to cart them in and out of the house spilling dirt and water on my carpeted floor. They go out once a week if possible to get hosed off for spider mites control, etc. So, this winter I decided to take a chance and just stash those not-so-cold-hardy potted varieties outside in a portable greenhouse with a couple of water barrels and two small space heaters inside, and they are doing just fine. Still not growing, but not frost damaged and no spider mites, and no dirt spilled on my floors. So far this warm winter my low has been 13 degrees F. My potted varieties are Santa Teresa lemon, Chandler pomelo, and Lakeland limequat.

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