The Tropical Fruit Forum

Quote from: BloomAndSprout on October 03, 2024, 08:13:42 PM

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Quote from: Jaboticaba45 on October 03, 2024, 05:23:31 PM

Always in a cycle of culling trees that don't make good fruit or are taking up unnecessary space.
Even if I had the space, why on earth would I plant a muntingia tree?

What's wrong with them?  I believe I have some seeds here I've been meaning to germinate; the description of the fruit sounds good.

Its not that they are bad. There is just no wow! Factor to them. Kindof like the typical white Dragon fruit. The flavor reminds me of how your mouth feels after eating cotton candy but with very little sweetness.

Oddly enough I have seen some very positive descriptions of the fruit online, which is partly why I obtained the seeds, not that they were expensive at all.  Is there possibly a large variability in the quality of fruit, or (in your opinion) are some people likely just easily impressed by something "different?"

I enjoy them in a pot as a patio plant but I can perfectly understand why people don’t plant them out, they are extremely vigorous and apparently shoot up suckers yards away from the mother plant. The fruit is difficult to harvest because it never really ripens all at once and they’re very small usually. It takes a lot of pruning to keep the fruit reachable. The fruit is mildly sweet to very sweet with some varieties having slightly bitter skin (mine is very sweet with slightly bitter skin but I just spit it out, it’s not noticeable unless you really chew and I’ve had others that don’t have this issue). Some I’ve had are less aromatic and some are more (mine has a good amount of that candyish aroma). I know for a fact they grow super well and super fast from cuttings, I’ve rooted and fruited a few personally within a year. I could sell you some cuttings if you’d like

HMMMM... let me think about that.  Seems like quite the underrated potted fruit tree.

While they root easy from cuttings , I have never seen them sucker, even in big 20’ x 20’ tree’s.

Super sweet is kinda the opposite flavor profile of bland white flesh dragon fruit.

Kind of what I was thinking by that  description, I was thinking that meant "mostly flavorless."

Quote from: BloomAndSprout on October 03, 2024, 06:04:04 PM

Quote from: Jaboticaba45 on October 03, 2024, 05:23:31 PM

Always in a cycle of culling trees that don't make good fruit or are taking up unnecessary space.
Even if I had the space, why on earth would I plant a muntingia tree?

What's wrong with them?  I believe I have some seeds here I've been meaning to germinate; the description of the fruit sounds good.

Its not that they are bad. There is just no wow! Factor to them. Kindof like the typical white Dragon fruit. The flavor reminds me of how your mouth feels after eating cotton candy but with very little sweetness.

Oddly enough I have seen some very positive descriptions of the fruit online, which is partly why I obtained the seeds, not that they were expensive at all.  Is there possibly a large variability in the quality of fruit, or (in your opinion) are some people likely just easily impressed by something "different?"

Quote from: elouicious on September 30, 2024, 06:14:47 PM

Yes

Seem to me that your suggestion might damage the roots of tree sapling.

Poking holes in the container?  Nah, not if you're careful, I think it's a fine suggestion. And remember, the alternative is potential root rot.

Quote from: BloomAndSprout on September 30, 2024, 02:26:14 PM

But complaining about a ~2 week delay is nothing and needs some perspective over what's going on in the background.

2 weeks and no communication. Personally, at this point I'd assume they're out of stock and are fighting silverfish seeing what they can throw together from the Y2K bin that hasn't yet turned into a puff of dust.

Like I said, communication is sometimes the weak point they may sometimes have that should be addressed, but complaining about not shipping within 2 weeks is silly.  OneGreenWorld and Wanderlust don't even ship within two weeks a lot of the time. These people are hobbyists that sell a little for some extra cash, very few make this, or can make this, their full-time dedication. When you traffick in rare and exotic things you have fewer buyers, and then must balance a full-time job on top of this along with family and every other obligation. You may say, "well, don't get in business if you can't dedicate everything to it," but then we wouldn't have the access to these rare seeds and plants to begin with. There are very few sellers of these rare seeds to begin with.  Hell, this forum is somewhat small and very old school (I love it) and yet is the largest forum dedicated to this hobby by a wide margin, there's just not enough interest in these things universally to be able to be on top of things all the time.

If you don't get an answer over email then shoot them a message on this forum. I think almost all are on here.  Email these days is a somewhat unreliable medium due to spam, spam filters, etc unfortunately.  That has always remedied communication lapses from the seed sellers I've had.

And this is by no means common to just seed sellers.  Large corporations can be even worse.

Tradewinds is a little different, I have absolutely no idea who runs that website but I think that actually is their full-time business and their stock is incredible, but they have higher prices, don't specialize in the more obscure plants that Bellamy, Brian, Anderson, etc do, so I think they are able to be more consistent and quick and also make money on common seeds like garden vegatables, flowers, and the like.

I agree communication needs to be better! I've been frustrated and angry and afraid I've gotten ripped off in the past too. But all these people are reputable and you have to keep in mind that these are essentially part-time businesses by people with busy lives. When shit happened they bent over backwards to make things right. The main names on this forum won't let you down, and complaining about an order not being shipped in 2 weeks is silly.

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Quote from: Brian laufer on November 26, 2023, 12:22:22 AM

Www.Raindanceseeds.com
www.seedshuntershop.com
www.bellamytrees.com
Www.happajoesnursery.com
Www.tradewindsfruit.com
Www.andersontropicals.com
Www.wanderlustnusery.com

Bellamys shipped my order the next day
Anderson it's lik five days
For raindance well. It's been nearly 15 days till. Today no shipping
For now. Bellamys website is the best

Very much agree with this! I've had problems with a couple sellers on this list and they did not resolve the issues in a manner worthy of note or just straight up ignored me.

I highly recommend Kameron with Bellamytrees. Every time I've reached out with an inquiry, concern, or problem he resolved it in a favorable way. IMO, hes the best professional seller in the exotic seed biz. His customer service is unparalleled and nothing short of incredible.

Brian laufer raindance s the worst seller ever 16 days and no shipping
No réponse to my emails nothing
I just want to give him more chance but damn 16 days with no shipping is not sweet
If he is reading this please respond
Dude is not even responding I think I throw my money just like that

For Andersons he have a fantastic seed set
But till now 6 days no shipping and no response
For bellamys he is the best seller for me ships in the next day
I tries also
Tradewinds and they have good service

Dude, even many of the major nurseries take over two weeks to ship out plants from date of order. Everyone does these tropical seeds part-time.  While I think many of the seed sellers could improve their avenues of communication, they have lives and this hobby doesn't have the mainstream interest to allow for these people to hire other people to handle this stuff full time. Therefore personal issues and obligations sometimes delay these things.  With Bellamy I once had a big order fall through the cracks and take many months to get back to me, but Kameron apologized profusely and made things right. I've ordered seeds from many of the more dedicated sellers on here and every one of them has exhibited integrity and passion in what they do.  Anyone who has been on this forum doing this for years  has been doing something right, otherwise they wouldn't be able to do this. From Marcos to Raul to Kameron to Brian to the people I only know their usernames, most everyone here is doing a phenomenal job. These people sourcing in these rare and fascinating plants/seeds are making this hobby great.  If you're new to this I can understand your concern, especially starting out the fear of getting ripped off is real when you're not really able to identify plants as well and you don't know who to trust or what's a good deal, but the regulars on this forum are really top notch.  But complaining about a ~2 week delay is nothing and needs some perspective over what's going on in the background.

Of my annonas my A. macroprophyllata grow the fastest and are the largest right now.

I'd guess it was an air layer or seedling then.  I'm not seeing any pictures, however.

Apparently no torrent from the heavens nor wild squalls can interfere with the grand designs of the Jaboticaba Lord.

I just wanted to say something stupid.

How's the squirrel population there?

I just imported some of Raul's Olosapo seeds.  Beforehand I called up the USDA office near me to confirm what was allowable.  They stated vermiculite was allowed so long as it didn't obfuscate the seeds totally.  They cleared inspection and I received today so it was fine.  Ymmv so just call them.

Good to know, thank you.  I went with Jaboticaba45's advice and used the ATL inspection station.

Tomato 😘

But, more what you are looking for...

Durian
Noni
Nance
Peanut butter fruit
Persimmon
Medlar
Jackfruit, probably

Are more well known ones... Less certain about the lesser known fruits...

Because these are at least 2 year old saplings and not seeds. I don't sell seeds anymore and soon once I am sold out will not sell seedling anymore. I know what I want to grow now so not traveling as much and back to teaching and just collecting. As for this species, these were germinated seeds we found under the mother tree and I imported them from my Bahia trip two years ago. I had an extra one to sell but I'll probably just keep it now. Don't really need the money and would rather have an extra ultra rare already grown tree.

If people think $500 is rare for a plant like this, they should look at how much some philodendrons and such cost that are, number-wise for number of plants in existence, much more expensive.  Whoever is selling yangmei on ebay for >$500 (a user here, I'm pretty sure) IMO is still charging a reasonable price for a healthy well-rooted tree. After all, isn't part of the fun of this very hobby growing something unusual and somewhat obscure?  And unlike the super-expensive houseplants, these plants produce unique fruits.

Per Anderson Tropicals,

https://andersontropicals.com/products/pouteria-sp-boneshell?srsltid=AfmBOooDjQexFzEspsHKx5lhsP85dsMQm6pZsIswwJbfjq-XFjPb44F9

Pouteria sp. Boneshell is a new, unidentified species from Southeastern Brazil  Atlantic Rainforest