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Y'know, I've said this before but it seems as if some parts of the country have a huge surplus of rainwater at times, most notably the southeast and it's either dumped in the ocean or gulf of Mexico.

Given the enormous public works projects in the past I would think that another one for recovering and piping this water for agricultural uses to the west would be a desirable way to put folks to work and save ground and other clear water for potable uses.

Yeah filtering debris, fish etc. would be an issue but C'mon the west has desperate need of water and dumping it makes no sense. 


Probably cheaper to do desalination.  Or just drill some wells under the sierras.

Desal isn't cheap. It is power hungry. If we could get over it and build up some nuclear facilities, especially seawater cooled, we could be cooking though. Another issue that arises is where do you put all the salt after you've separated it.

"For example, the Carlsbad desalination plant in San Diego, California requires about 35 megawatts of electricity to operate. (By comparison, 1 megawatt is enough energy to operate a small town and 1,000 megawatts is enough to power a midsize city). The plant produces an average daily flow of 50 million gallons, only about 10% of the total drinking water needed by San Diego."

Wells are a finite resource. Once they're done, they're done, so I don't think siphoning off the Sierras will do it for us long term, decades sure, centuries no chance. A common issue is that as soon as we DO have or find water, we find new ways to use it. Case in point, all the lawn watering bans were lifted here in SB cause Cachuma got water and consumption is on the rise.

Agree with others in the thread though, army corp. of engineers and public projects should have been tackling this over the last few decades. It's amazing seeing the state irrigation channels from the 60's... What have we done on that scale since?

Solar, wind, and/or hydro power could help supplement power requirements perhaps? May not completely compensate, but would put a decent enough dent into it.

Nuclear is just too risky IMO. All it takes is one bad natural disaster or (god forbid) an attack from terrorists or another nation's military and the whole area is irradiated hundreds if not thousands of years. Yeah that risk is very small, but the consequences are very permanent as Chernobyl and Fukushima have shown us.

As for what to do with all the salt, sell it to consumers. There will never not be a need for sea salt, be it for food, roads where it snows in the winter, and water softeners. Supply it to companies that already sell it, or form a new company and sell it fairly cheap to make up for some of the cost.

Time to build some desalinization facilities?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: PH DOWN product question
« on: July 05, 2024, 02:49:57 PM »
Elemental soil sulfur is still the best long term solution so there's a constant supply of sulfuric acid as the microbes slowly break it down. Since you're in a climate with warmer winters it should work year round for you. Just gotta apply twice or thrice a year.

EDDHA iron and foliar feeding also works wonders in countering high pH soil/water conditions, which we have here in spades in Las Vegas. To my surprise it's even worked really well with my experimental blueberries, even with the pH being higher than what they normally tolerate.

Fygee, if you know someone who has one of those Big Jim large tree that fruits and is doing well in your Las Vegas location, then get me 4 cuttings and I will trade you for something you're looking for. To me it doesn't sound like a Big Jim if the fruits are small, the only time my fruits are small is if the tree has a very large crop, then the fruits will be smaller. If their variety is different from the 3 sourced Big Jim that I have grafted and fruiting, then he can assign a name of the variety.

Will do Kaz! I'll ping my Facebook group.

I'm definitely interested, but alas it's too hot here to have trees shipped for now. If any of these with the 4 or more grafts are still available once summer calms down, I'd definitely be down to purchase.

Big Jim is confirmed to survive and even thrive here in Las Vegas. I know several people that have large trees. I will say though that the fruits are kind of small so I can't help but wonder if they're actually Big Jim...

There's an unknown variety at a local steakhouse that has two mature trees that are also doing very well. The restaurant staff didn't even know what they were and never bothered to eat any of the fruit, funnily enough, until I told them what they were when I visited recently.

I'm interested in a multgraft with as many as you can attach to it. Can't purchase until after the summer heat dies down though. Wouldn't want it to die in transit.

Sent you a PM.

Consider me extremely intrigued.

There has been some very rare success with mangoes here in Vegas, primarily due to the high alkaline soil, winter temps that can dip into the high 20s, and of course our stupidly hot and dry heat.

I may have to pick one of these up and give it a try.

I'm very interested! Cold is what's killed mine in previous attempts. Our lowest are typically high 20s at night.

What variety is it?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Ice cream bean tree care
« on: June 11, 2024, 11:20:25 AM »
They're very cold sensitive so they will definitely require protection in Zone 7 during the winter. They die from the cold here in zone 9a.

A greenhouse, or keeping it in a pot and bringing it indoors may be your only option.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Looking for skinner mulberry
« on: June 10, 2024, 03:43:01 PM »
Skinner cuttings are available at Cody Cove Farm.

Unfortunately for me, they don't ship to NV. :\ If they ship to you though (i.e. you're in Florida), you're in luck.

Das bump.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: It's so hot
« on: June 10, 2024, 01:41:25 PM »

Lol, I saw that on my FB yesterday and it's exactly how it felt.

I gotta tip my hat to the AZ and NV growers. Don’t know how you do it!

A LOT of trial and error, watering, mulch, afternoon shade if it can be done, and some Surround WP for trees prone to sunburn.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: It's so hot 🔥
« on: June 10, 2024, 12:45:12 PM »
I see the short bus must have made a stop at this thread. It's a shame the weather can't be remarked on without someone's vitriolic political commentary derailing it.

hehe, I know all about what passes as "science". I've worked in the field.

I find it interesting that once I asked the question about solar activity it was immediately mocked and dismissed, your kind isn't interested in truth, only in power and holding over others, the past few years have been clear evidence of that.

I mean...maybe don't complain about "vitriolic political commentary" and then proceed to spout it?

The fact that climate change (which is very real) is a political thing is absurd to begin with.

Anyways, Vegas hit a record for the quickest day in the year we hit 110 degrees. Do not want. Thankfully I haven't lost any plants and trees, including some tropical experiments, but there's been a fair bit of triage to keep them going.

I did lose two loquat grafts that seemed to be doing well though. :\

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Need help with my Fig tree
« on: June 04, 2024, 03:28:28 PM »
Like mcoambassador said, they'll take some time to fruit until their roots fully root out in the container, and if you go straight to a big one, it can take some time.

However, based on the existing size of the tree, I don't think it would take all that long to do so. Maybe a year.

Figs can grow quite big in large containers, they just require extra fertilizer to stay vigorous and productive.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Feeding a fig . . .
« on: June 03, 2024, 02:36:29 PM »
Personally I use Osmocote and Foxfarm's GrowBig with good results. I've also read about fish emulsion producing really good results as well from a decent number of people on OurFigs, YT videos, and local growers.

No need to wait until after this year if you don't want to. I'd say trim it down hard now. Hard trims can force fruiting as well for certain varieties. For my WBM (which is the rootstock for my Frankenmulberry), whenever I trim it hard after it fruits, the growth right after produces a bunch of berries again.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Need help with my Fig tree
« on: June 03, 2024, 01:56:43 PM »
Figs are best transplanted when they're dormant. If you transplant them when it's warm, they tend to get stunted for a year or two, particularly if they're fairly mature as they're going to heavily refocus on re-rooting.

DavidBYE is correct that if mulched, watered, and fertilized they will grow very quickly (though there is some variance depending on the variety and it's vigor). Do you know what variety yours is?

Also, I highly recommend not planting it in that raised planter. It's going to make it pretty difficult to harvest the fruit and keep the tree trimmed without having to climb up there. Personally I'm a very big fan of keeping the roots at ground level, and keeping their overall height no taller than 10 feet for those two reasons. The larger pot is your better option of the two.

@Fygee - thanks for your input.  I forgot to mention that i have a stair case to climb up.  I am also planning to keep the tree less than 7 ft.  Another thing i am planning to do is to plant it a bit deeper and will try to plant in a way that most of the main branches are facing the house .  Do you see any issues with this?  Do u still feel that itís better to plant it in a container ?  I hv the big 30g pot pictured above.

That should work fine though, though it'll still be pretty tricky to harvest on an elevated planter. Keeping it at 7ft is a good idea. I usually keep mine around 10 so that all the figs are reachable.

Figs tolerate deeper planting much better than other trees, so that should be fine as long as it's not super deep. Best practice though is to keep the main root-ball near the soil line.

Something else to keep in mind, fig roots can get very long and sprawling. They will intertwine with nearby plants. Usually not an issue, but FYI.

Personally, I'm a big proponent of pruning fruit trees to a size that you can reach the fruit. Doesn't do much good if you can't get to them. Mulberries bounce back from pruning so well that you can hack them down to the trunk and they'll still end up a full tree in a year's time when mature.

Mulberries can be a little different though. If you lay down some traps around the growth area, you can just shake it and ripe ones will easily fall to the ground for you to collect.

On it for those Skinner and DMOR9 cuttings.

Funnily enough, her website is blocked at my work as "adult content". Lol.

Nice! If you can find a source for Skinner cuttings in the future, please let me know. :)

Gotcha, I'll skip out on that one then. Unless there's something else super special, next ones on my list are DMOR9 and Skinner.

The contorted grafts are already producing both male and female berries. Will be interesting to see how they taste.

Alas, I cannot. Not a mod, just letting you know. :)

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Looking For Inga Vulpina
« on: May 31, 2024, 03:02:52 PM »
Cool, thanks! Wasn't familiar with the site.

I love how extremely Web 1.0 it is. Don't get to see classics like that much these days.

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