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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: in search of rootstock for tropical papaya.
« on: June 24, 2019, 03:40:00 PM »
Awesome Joe, congrats on such great success rate with these!
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So Cal Update:
my graft of No Mai Tze is growing very well, it appears to be aggressive grower, and it holds fruits very well. Although my grafts are young, I am very happy to report that this variety may be better suited for So Cal. I have it on both longan and hakip rootstocks.
No Mai Tsze is a slow grower, even in China. The mature trees are only 1/3 to 2/3 the size of other varieties. My NMT air layer is growing agonizingly slow. Behl, you might be onto something grafting it onto Longan if you are getting vigorous growth. Please post a picture of the fruit once it matures. The fruit has a distinct look to it. It’s kind of pebbly skinned.
Simon
will do Simon. grafts on Halkip lychee rootstock are slower in growth, while on longan are matching pace with sweet heart. it will b interesting to see how they perform going forward. Source of these wood was hawaii USDA so chances of it being real are quite high.
So Cal Update:
my graft of No Mai Tze is growing very well, it appears to be aggressive grower, and it holds fruits very well. Although my grafts are young, I am very happy to report that this variety may be better suited for So Cal. I have it on both longan and hakip rootstocks.
Sugar cane is very shy in fruit yield unless you have other variety to cross pollinate. I suggest you to honey jar instead, for the fruit size is similar and a bit juicier. To me honey jar is a bit superior then sugar cane.
That is awesome, congrats!
Thanks Mark! Can you spare me some Tainung #2 seeds when you have them? I can't find Tainung anywhere.
Anyway, I bought a Broadleaf Papaya from Wellsprings... didn't know it doesn't like the afternoon sun unlike the Brazilian and Mexican papayas. I will protect it against afternoon sun. I was wondering if the Broadleaf papaya is the same as Tainung...
I tried and was said no to Shasta, Yosemite, and Tahoe gold varieties. only bet is to buy trees
Where did you find the budwood for your Shasta Gold?
I have been reading about it and based on descriptions you have posted on TFF and others comments on other forums it sounds like one that I want to try.
UCR has it in their collection: https://citrusvariety.ucr.edu/citrus/tde2.html
However, the don't offer it on the CCPP budwood order page. If I search the page for 'Shasta' or 'tde2' or '490' (the UCR VI for Shasta Gold is 490) it is not listed as something I can order budwood from.
I have seen a few nurseries online that sell the trees, but they don't ship to AZ.
CCPP just updated their website. I think this is the old form: https://ccpp.ucr.edu/budwood/forms/2013-Forms/ScreenhouseFaxOrderForm.pdf
If you look at the (*) it appears you need a license agreement for the TDE budwood. I don't know how that works but perhaps shoot them an email.
Have you tried Dekopon before?
(I find them to be very sweet and overly rich, almost slight mango flavor, but makes a great snack food for a paper bag lunch, kind of like an orange that is easier to peel. Personally I still prefer Shasta Gold though)
Who is growing No Mai Tsze lychee?
I have been looking into grafting lychees and Oscar pointed out (back in a post in 2012 I think) that the chance for a good take increases if a lychee is grafted onto a seedling from the same cultivar. And because I am very interested in grafting a No Mai Tsze lychee, I am looking for No Mai Tsze seeds.
So my question (and request) to anyone growing No Mai Tsze lychees: Could you save the seeds? I would love to try sprouting the seeds and grafting onto the seedlings.
Thanks!
Old Post but wanted to inform that No Mai Tze is very compatible grafting onto longan and hakip rootstocks. I got takes in 3 spots 5 grafts It failed on Brewster. Grows aggressive on longan. It even bloomed in first season.
My neighbor just told me that landscapers had heavily mulched her avocado tree (week or 2 ago?), and it quickly died. It was a large tree. The stump is at least 2 feet in diameter. Will try to get more info.
Fresh mulch can reach 180 degrees F while breaking down, at which point it will catch fire. What soil temperature would kill an avocado tree? 120-130? If you take wood chips and compost them, you still have wood chips 2 months later, just much less, but much safer. Or if you do want to apply fresh mulch, make a high donut ring far from the main stem, the larger the tree the farther away you go. Make it high and as thin as possible.
Everybody's mulch is different, and your trees likely can build up a tolerance to mulching, eventually your trees can handle a huge mound of mulch around them, but don't go from zero to that much immediately.
Nope, sorry, that's kind of the definition of a "dwarf pomegranate". You get tiny dwarf fruits.
However, the variety Parfianka (as well as many other hardy Russian varieties) grows to be smaller than most.I do not find Parfianka to be a small grower. I have many grafted many varieties onto my large Wonderful bush: http://desertvalleyorchard.blogspot.com/p/frankenpomegranate.html
You can of course use skilled pruning to keep the bush as small as you want, as long as you are sure to keep up pruning every year.
Mark in Texas can tell you about the citrus bureau there. They get it from CCPP and both CCPP and they tack on a nice surcharge. $150 budwood.
Someone contacted CCPP recently and told me they will have it again in June.
Have you tried Dekopon before?
(I find them to be very sweet and overly rich, almost slight mango flavor, but makes a great snack food for a paper bag lunch, kind of like an orange that is easier to peel. Personally I still prefer Shasta Gold though)
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