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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #525 on: April 28, 2023, 03:40:47 PM »
Success! Late Growing grafted onto m. cerifera. Added Crystal scion.


Congrats roblack,

That new growth looks a lot like Cerifera leaves because of the serrations in the leaves.

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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #526 on: April 28, 2023, 03:43:06 PM »
Looks great Roblack!



Got around to up potting a few today


Always happy to see clean roots

Jaboticaba45, the roots look healthy. Hopefully everyone’s plants are exploding with growth now that it’s warmer. My trees are really starting to flush hard.

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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #527 on: April 28, 2023, 05:42:38 PM »
Success! Late Growing grafted onto m. cerifera. Added Crystal scion.


Congrats roblack,

That new growth looks a lot like Cerifera leaves because of the serrations in the leaves.

Simon

You are correct! Just pulled the buddy tape off, and found the growth was coming from the outer/upper part of the rootstock cleft graft.

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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #528 on: April 29, 2023, 01:41:31 PM »
Out of the 45 ish trees I got from the December Group Order, 7 are looking like they have a fighting Chance. We will see


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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #529 on: April 29, 2023, 02:58:50 PM »
These appear to be doing well:



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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #530 on: May 07, 2023, 05:34:34 PM »
Hah, I was about to respond with admiration at your successful grafting.  So far I am 0 out of gazillion, grafting onto cerifera, californica and even my Biqis from an earlier buy. Sadly, my  Californica which is many many years old looks like it is dying. I am not sure if this is because of all the rain we had or the fact that it is surrounded by banana plants. Or if they just have a finite life span.  My cerifera, both in pots and in the ground are all hale and hearty but so far no success with the grafts. I have decided I am just a crappy grafter though I'm doing okay with persimmons and avos.

One thing I have become really intrigued by is the fact that my three yang mei from the most recent buy, two  Wusu and one Dong Kui,  are all pushing growth from both below and above the graft.  Since the consensus seems to be that the rootstocks have a 50-50 chance of being male does it make sense to let these below grafts continue to push to give  me better odds of having a male in this harem? 

Somewhat related, this morning I inspected my two inground Biqi from last year's buy and have come to the conclusion that the so-called female looks to me like a failed graft and the so-called male looks to me like a successful graft.  The only sense I can make of this is that the labels got switched somewhere along the line.  On the other hand, the Biqi so-called male is huge and the so-called female is small and delicate so I guess I  will just wait and see on the happy day when they flower




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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #531 on: May 09, 2023, 12:01:57 AM »
Hah, I was about to respond with admiration at your successful grafting.  So far I am 0 out of gazillion, grafting onto cerifera, californica and even my Biqis from an earlier buy. Sadly, my  Californica which is many many years old looks like it is dying. I am not sure if this is because of all the rain we had or the fact that it is surrounded by banana plants. Or if they just have a finite life span.  My cerifera, both in pots and in the ground are all hale and hearty but so far no success with the grafts. I have decided I am just a crappy grafter though I'm doing okay with persimmons and avos.

One thing I have become really intrigued by is the fact that my three yang mei from the most recent buy, two  Wusu and one Dong Kui,  are all pushing growth from both below and above the graft.  Since the consensus seems to be that the rootstocks have a 50-50 chance of being male does it make sense to let these below grafts continue to push to give  me better odds of having a male in this harem? 

Somewhat related, this morning I inspected my two inground Biqi from last year's buy and have come to the conclusion that the so-called female looks to me like a failed graft and the so-called male looks to me like a successful graft.  The only sense I can make of this is that the labels got switched somewhere along the line.  On the other hand, the Biqi so-called male is huge and the so-called female is small and delicate so I guess I  will just wait and see on the happy day when they flower




It would be a good idea to keep at least one branch from below the graft in the hopes of getting an opposite sex plant. If you have lots of growths belie the graft, it may be a good idea to remove most the growths so that the rootstock doesn’t overtake the grafted portion.

Don’t give up on grafting Yangmei. It could be that your scions/rootstocks weren’t in the best shape. A simple cleft graft works well for Yangmei onto Cerifera or Californica.

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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #532 on: May 09, 2023, 10:06:20 AM »
Hey,
has anyone seen success grafting the scions of Adam and Eve from Marta?
Mine had little buds, but seems to be stuck there lol. Honestly not too sure now.

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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #533 on: May 09, 2023, 01:16:09 PM »
Hey,
has anyone seen success grafting the scions of Adam and Eve from Marta?
Mine had little buds, but seems to be stuck there lol. Honestly not too sure now.
So far mine look good. I did one of each onto yangmei.

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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #534 on: May 09, 2023, 01:21:00 PM »
My Eve graft is growing fine.

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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #535 on: May 09, 2023, 01:45:28 PM »
Nice. Glad to see that other growers are having success with them.one are still green, but still it’s annoying that they’re not pushing new growth just yet.

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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #536 on: May 10, 2023, 12:53:24 PM »

It would be a good idea to keep at least one branch from below the graft in the hopes of getting an opposite sex plant. If you have lots of growths belie the graft, it may be a good idea to remove most the growths so that the rootstock doesn’t overtake the grafted portion.

Don’t give up on grafting Yangmei. It could be that your scions/rootstocks weren’t in the best shape. A simple cleft graft works well for Yangmei onto Cerifera or Californica.

Simon
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Thanks for the encouragement, Simon.  I have tried both veneer and cleft grafts but am usually more comfortable and successful with the cleft.  I will keep trying!  And yes, not allow more than one sprout from below the graft per tree.

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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #537 on: May 12, 2023, 05:20:27 PM »
Hi

Donkkui and crystal scions I grafted on M ceriferas are pushing buds inside the parafilm wrap. Should I remove the wrapping or not touch them at all?

Also, should I remove all the cerifera branches and new growths and branches ?

Thanks






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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #538 on: May 12, 2023, 07:38:51 PM »
Onur, I would leave the Parafilm alone for now because if you remove it, you will probably knock the buds off. I would also leave some of the leaves from the Cerifera to support the grafts. When grafting trees, you want to leave some leaves from the rootstock so that the tree can continue photosynthesis.

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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #539 on: May 13, 2023, 07:45:35 AM »
Got something goin' on here, Crystal on m. cerifera:






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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #540 on: May 13, 2023, 10:46:05 AM »
Yangmei seems to graft and grow easily on M cerifera. Kind of hoping that the smaller sized Southern wax myrtle will affect the ultimate size of these yangmei trees.

Here is 2 Adam and 1 Eve graft
Adam


Eve


M cerifera growing wild(or someone planted these its a recovered riparian zone) in Houston



Some more young grafts on M cerifera



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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #541 on: May 13, 2023, 11:40:05 AM »
Onur, I would leave the Parafilm alone for now because if you remove it, you will probably knock the buds off. I would also leave some of the leaves from the Cerifera to support the grafts. When grafting trees, you want to leave some leaves from the rootstock so that the tree can continue photosynthesis.

Simon

Thank you Simon.

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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #542 on: May 14, 2023, 05:01:09 PM »
Hey
east coast growers, I challenge you to a race to see who can fruit yangmei the fastest east of the Mississippi river.
Winner gets a grafted yangmei from me!
See you all in 2025!
Or maybe I'm wrong. There's a good chance someone may have fruited it already?

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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #543 on: May 15, 2023, 04:34:32 PM »
Deep Red on cerifera



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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #544 on: May 17, 2023, 02:16:36 AM »
Wanted to start some yangmei from seed and i've read some sources saying it does best in 5 or even lower PH soil. Is that true?
If true, for those planting in-ground, what's your soil PH? Is there something you do to keep a low PH?
Keep planting and nobody explodes

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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #545 on: May 17, 2023, 09:42:53 AM »
I have 2 Biqi growing in ground for 1.5 years or so. They are healthy. Soil ph is around 8, limestone beneath a thin layer of sandy soil.

Haven't had much growth until started watering and feeding them lately. It has been very dry here. It is possible that lower ph could have led to more growth, but plants look good and are responding to better care. I am convinced that at least Biqi and the 2 rootstocks they are on, can handle high ph. 
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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #546 on: May 17, 2023, 02:19:19 PM »
Garden employees patrolling for pests on the yangmei grafts.




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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #547 on: May 17, 2023, 02:22:40 PM »
isn't that a ladybug?

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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #548 on: May 17, 2023, 04:42:43 PM »



Trying this again for the gazillionth time. I will add a couple more Biqi on this shortly

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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #549 on: May 17, 2023, 08:27:55 PM »
isn't that a ladybug?

Haha… Yes! The lady by population is incredible this year. They’re everywhere. Patrolling my Yangmei grafts for aphids. 👍🏼

 

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