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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Loquats Fruiting in January - In SoCal
« on: February 10, 2022, 10:00:09 AM »
Janet, yes, I do usually get two different fruit crops (early-Mar/Apr, late- July/Sept) but never seen any loquats fruit for me in January.


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Citrus General Discussion / Re: How to sprout citrus seeds?
« on: February 10, 2022, 08:57:22 AM »
Pagnr, that sounds right. I just change the water out in my small plastic cup with seeds in them and so I must be washing out the mold/bacteria growth. I do see some seeds that go bad in the water cup. I also noticed that pummelo and grapefruit seeds have much harder shell and seems to not get the problems like the lemon, mandarin, and orange seeds.

I just planted a handful of my pummelo seeds with no special treatment except this water cup method and they seem to all be doing well and growing. I'll post a photo later to show these healthy seedlings. Now I don't know what to do with hundreds of new seedlings.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Loquats Fruiting in January - In SoCal
« on: February 10, 2022, 08:51:22 AM »
Janet, that's interesting. None of my Big Jim fruits have ripened yet, all green still about half the size and growing bigger.

I did see one other variety that was almost starting to yellow, the Mogi.  I tasted the Champane fruits, and it was ripe, but taste is just ok, fruits were smaller than normal. The Champane is the only one in a pot with fruits, all the rest are grafted branches on my tree.


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Bill, here's my order request below;

Item    Variety,   Quantity
1   Crystal, female,   Qty=1
2   Dongkui, female, Qty=1
3   Black Diamond, female, Qty=2
4   DK Male, Qty=2
   
Total =>   6

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I have one that is an Ugli fruit, it gets fruits, much smaller than the ones I see on internet. Taste is average, hoping one year it will start tasting good but so far, no improvement here in SoCal. Maybe my tree is a seedling variety, and it is nothing special so far. It seems to be a dwarf type tree here.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Sumo Citrus
« on: February 10, 2022, 03:43:05 AM »
Lovetoplant, the Florida murcott fruit is also grafted on the same tree as my Honey murcott and the third murcott variety so it's easy for me to compare the ripening of these fruits on my tree. The Florida murcott ripens last for me, it just started to become fully ripe now on half the tree so it should be good to eat in Feb-Mar. I noticed that there are two different varieties of mandarin which is called Florida murcott, I have both types. Type 1 has the thin skin, bright orange color, sticks to flesh, many seeds, average sweet unless you pick it at the perfect time. Type 2 has the thinner skin, not as bright orange, more like the color of Honey mandarin yellow, skin sticks to flesh, many seeds, but very sweet. I would say this type 2 murcott I have is as sweet as the CA Honey but both has some acidic taste which I like.

I couldn't tell you which citrus variety seeds grow true to parent fruit. I think it was mentioned Sumo seeds will give true Sumo fruits, I will find out when my seedling tree fruits in a few years.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Multi-Grafted Citrus tree fruiting
« on: February 10, 2022, 03:33:05 AM »
John B, yes I feel for you. My wife would never let me buy as much budwood now at these prices. Luck for me I made majority of my orders back in 2004.

Lovetoplant, that's a good question about the Valentine pummelo. I have a large tree which gives lots of fruits, mostly large fruits but this year the fruits were only 1-1/2 lbs each or smaller. I just ate one fruit tonight and it wasn't as good as others on the tree. I will be picking a few more this week so I will post a few photos for you and give you feedback. I can tell you that it does not separate that easy into sections, kinda like an orange. It has many seeds, very juicy, most of the time it is very sweet with no acid taste, firmness similar to Washington navel orange. At least everyone I give the fruits away to say it was excellent. The Cocktail grapefruit is similar in the way it separates but I like the taste of Valentine better. I do have a special unk Valentine like hybrid I call "Tony1" from the guy who gave me a cutting years ago. The Tony1 is the large fruits in the photo with the rope tied to it, so it won't break off the fruit stem/branch. These fruits are better than Valentine and larger size.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Loquats Fruiting in January - In SoCal
« on: February 10, 2022, 03:17:44 AM »
Maybe it's the off weather we are having. I know my plumeria flowers were flowering last year from summer to December which is unusual to bloom that long.

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Eric, I think I read somewhere that Meyer lemon is not compatible with all the other citrus so I would stick to using normal true lemons like Lisbon or Eureka. Also Meyer trees don't grow as fast or large as the Lisbon or Eureka.

I have grafted most everything on these two-lemon variety and have not had any that are not compatible. My multi-grafted trees are over 20 yrs old.

Millet probably will know more on this subject of the Meyer lemon.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: How to sprout citrus seeds?
« on: February 10, 2022, 01:32:44 AM »
I follow instructions as Millet mentions but I don't let it dry. So when I eat a new citrus that tastes great, I just thoroughly clean them, then leave them in a small plastic cup with water until I feel like planting the in the soil. Seems to work great for my pomelos and grapefruits. I have a nice 4ft sumo from a fruit that I found 3 seeds three years ago.

Millet, do you know why they suggest letting the seeds dry? My seeds do dry out if I forget to change the water in the cup and it evaporates.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Timing My Harvest of Ponkan Mandarins
« on: February 10, 2022, 01:28:33 AM »
I'm in SoCal so our ripening times are different. But when my Ponkan fruits ripen I can tell because they get pretty bright orange fully on the outside. Your tree may still be to young so in a few years the fruits may get better (sweeter).
My fruits ripen and tastes very good from December to March, but I usually pick them all by end of February. I still have about 10 ripe fruits left on the tree now and they taste very good.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Sumo Citrus
« on: February 10, 2022, 01:22:02 AM »
Seanny,

What year did you get the UCR CCPP budwood for your grafted branches?
I think the first ones sold in 2017 may be the best variety of sumo.

Kaz

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Loquats Fruiting in January - In SoCal
« on: February 10, 2022, 01:09:22 AM »
Just curious if anyone else has their loquat tree with ripe fruits now. I have one small Champane tree which already had some flowers when I purchased the plant last fall, and those fruits are now ripe. To me this is unusual since all my other varieties just have small fruitlets, and none ripen until April/May at the earliest in Southern Calif.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Sumo Citrus
« on: February 09, 2022, 11:37:37 PM »
Goyo626, I'm guessing the UCR CCPP budwood trees are mixed strains of the Sumo they used for selling budwood. I don't remember having more than 3 seeds total from all my fruits (20) last year on my scions I purchased from them on 2017. I planted those 3 seeds and one has grown very well, its about 4 ft tall so I hope I get fruits in a few years.

If you look at my earlier post above, I mentioned that UCR said there are three accessions (versions) of the shiranui in their fields so you never know which one you are getting.

"TJSW, 12/12/2019: The CVC accession had fruit for the first time, even though the trees were just planted last year. Approximately a dozen fruit on each of two trees. Externally the fruit appears mostly correct in size, shape and all have the characteristic large neck, see photos.  However, I opened a few of the fruit and was surprised to see many seeds."

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Sumo Citrus
« on: February 09, 2022, 09:46:16 PM »
mbmango, your Sumo and Gold Nugget looks pretty good colored up. Let us know when you taste your Sumo, look to see  if you find any seeds in the Sumo.

My Gold Nugget tree has many fruits, but they don't look as large as yours. I have been picking one or two to see if they are ripe but still not sweet, more acidic.

Goyo626, interesting that you found seeds in the Sumo. How many Sumo do you think you ate for the 10 seeds you found? I picked one very large Sumo (2019 graft) and gave it to a friend, and she said it was the best mandarin she had but she did fine 3 seeds in the one fruit. I plan on picking some Sumo from my older grafted trees (2017) on Vallentine Day and will report back on the total seeds I find in them.

Of the ripe mandarins in Jan-Feb, my Honey Murcott (CA honey) is the sweetest one, but it does have many seeds.

So far my favortie tasting mandarin this season is Ponkan, not as sweet as Honey Murcott but the Ponkan is almost seedless and fruits are much bigger, and it peels easy. The Honey Murcott skin sticks to the flesh so it's not as easy to peel them, and there's a lot of seeds in each fruit to spit out.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Grafting avocado
« on: February 06, 2022, 12:02:22 PM »
D-Grower, your grafts look good. I would not do a side graft so low on the rootstock next time. Just do it on the green hardened wood anywhere along the main trunk. If your side graft is low on the medium size rootstock (3 ft) and it fails, you will have a wound on that trunk. It should heal but sometimes it will take a while and you can get bugs, fungus in the wound. I usually side graft much higher with any fruit tree seedling (graft point above many leaves below it), then is it takes you can cut off the branch above the graft if you only want that one variety. Or if you want more varieties just do the same again above the grafted point. If it fails, then you can cut off the graft and do another later maybe 1" below the failed point on the trunk.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Grafting avocado
« on: February 02, 2022, 03:02:59 PM »
Post a few photos showing where you did the side graft and cleft grafts . It would make it easier to give better feedback to your questions.
It sounds like you did the right thing to leave a few leaves growing above your graft point. I always do the side graft and leave top growing until it takes. If you cleft graft, make sure you graft high enough so there are a few leaves below graft point (if possible). Then for both graft methods, if the scion fail, you can save the roostock . As soon as you see the new graft is failing, immediately cut off the bad graft portion.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado Scion Bud Maturity
« on: February 02, 2022, 02:34:02 PM »
Jack, that"s good info, I never looked that close at the scions for the ring of buds. I always just check for any new buds at the leaf node and use it to graft. I will need to pay attention to this ring next time.

I agree with Robert as to when you should remove the flowers on your graft. Wait until you clearly see the separate flowers, this may be 3 months after graft. At that time you will have new small leaves growing as well. I grafted 70 cuttings with leaf buds showing (similar but not as large as your buds) to my seedling plants last year and the majority of the grafts (80%) took with not much care by me. Most of these seedling grafts had lots of  flowers that I trimmed off. After I removed the flowers the plant grew much faster. There were a few with no flowers and they grew about 6" taller than ones with lots of flowers.


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Wow Simon, way to go. So huge and healthy.
Nice to hear you will have some available in the future, congrats !

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That's the only way I pick them. Bad news is I have a broken L-knee (on crutch) so not as easy to get up on the 8ft ladder. Should be getting my surgery soon.

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I vote Brewster. Tree is vigorous, easy to care for, but one thing to remember is the following:

-> DO NOT PLANT CLOSE TO HOUSE  {give 10-15 ft clearance}

Here's my 35 year old Brewster I planted next to the front thinking it would be a nice medium size tree, Wrong!
But it is very productive, about 30-50 lbs of fruits each season, and tastes good. I'm in Fullerton CA.


















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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2022 Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order
« on: January 24, 2022, 01:51:18 PM »
Great Job Bill, thanks !

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Red Hawaiian Avocado?
« on: January 24, 2022, 02:07:05 AM »
Ok, thank for this info.

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Oh, didn't know they root their cuttings, that's even better. I should try rooting a few branches from my small tree.
Thanks for this info.

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That's a nice looking tree. Where is the graft union ? Is it higher up on the rootstock?

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