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Citrus General Discussion / What makes a citrus leaf shiny?
« on: November 13, 2019, 07:10:47 PM »
Hi all,

So as we know for the most part a healthy citrus plant would be partnered with dark green and SHINY leaves. So Iím starting to understand what effects colouring of leaves(over watering,  nutrient deficiencies, pests, weather).

My question is, what makes leaves shiny. Additionally, what factors affect the shine of a leaf? Some of my plants are thriving, while others have dark green leaves but dull with no shine.


Citrus General Discussion / Re: The War on Root Rot
« on: November 10, 2019, 10:15:46 PM »
I am mesmerized by the wealth of knowledge this forum contains. You guys are impressive!

Citrus General Discussion / Re: The War on Root Rot
« on: November 07, 2019, 05:42:09 PM »
Hi all,

As far as growing from seed is concerned I absolutely recognize that this will be an issue for sure. All the previous issues I had came from grafted trees. I plan to buy some new trees this coming summer to get the process moving. Canadian Grower, I totally forgot to respond to your previous post and I apologize for that. I am in the Kingston area now. I suspect there should be a lot of good places near Toronto to look.

Thanks again all!

Citrus General Discussion / Re: The War on Root Rot
« on: November 05, 2019, 06:49:15 AM »

After reviewing previous posts on the forum it was my understanding that the growing media was a 5-1-1 ration and the 5-1-3 ratio was for nutrients. I know the Turface is getting great reviews from everyone here but the cost to have it shipped here was not worth it in my opinion and I have yet to find it at a local green house.

I will keep everyone updated on the outcome. After itís first watering I suspect that my plants will get thirsty very quickly!

Citrus General Discussion / The War on Root Rot
« on: November 04, 2019, 07:18:05 PM »
Good day all!

So I pretty much have exclusively posted on the topic of root rot. It comes as no surprise that growing citrus in Canada is a challenge. So following Milletís recipe (for the most part) I have entered a new phase of the war on root rot.

Here I have added 1 part potting soil. I chose to use potting soil as the wood chips I bought were on the bigger side so I strayed from the recipe slightly instead of using peat. The potting soil I am using is predominately peat FYI.

Next I added sand. As you can see it is blue and white because the store where I bought the reptile bark from only had this type of sand.

Finally I used reptile bark. I couldnít find any small enough for quarter inch. Mostly big stuff, a third of an inch all the way up to half inch.

For a pot I am using an air root pruning pot for max aeration.

Time to see if my Eureka seedling will survive/thrive or die.

The indoor/basement growing season has begun. If anyone has any growing tips let me know!

Thanks all!

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Wood chips for growing media
« on: September 29, 2019, 07:11:42 PM »
That is a pretty good idea, the o my draw back is that I am located in a city and finding a mill isnít the easiest. Iím thinking about substituting Akadama, a small baked Japanese clay that is used in bonsai cultivation.

Citrus General Discussion / Wood chips for growing media
« on: September 29, 2019, 06:26:55 PM »
Evening all!

So I am beginning to procure the amendments for the 5-1-1 growing media (1/4Ē wood chips, perlite, peat) as prescribed by Millet. I am the king of root rot as I can never find a soul that drains fast enough, so Iím going to give this recipe a try.

As for the wood chips, I am having a heck of a time finding them in such a small size other than using BBQ smoking chips which usually have some sort of additive for flavour. Does anyone have a website or location that they have purchased such a small size of wood chip in bulk?

Thanks a million!

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Curling leaves
« on: November 30, 2018, 10:59:40 AM »
Thanks for your reply!

I read in past posts that if the soil isn't absorbing water properly that I could soak the pot in another container of water for an extended period of time. would that be appropriate to do in this situation?


-too far north

Citrus General Discussion / Curling leaves
« on: November 30, 2018, 09:47:03 AM »
The battle of growing citrus in my basement in Canada continues. I think I am winning the war against root rot but one of my Naval oranges is experiencing leaf curing. The tree divides into two main branches. One branch is looking beautiful, dark waxy leaves and beautiful smelling blooms all over. the other main branch has nothing but droopy curling leaves and the blooms don't look so great. I am ensuring proper watering cycle, feeding is going well, it is receiving supplemental light from a CFL. The ambient temperature of the room is between 67f and 70f. After continually reading the article about winter leaf drop I don't think it is effecting this plant as my other plants are not experiencing those symptoms. I have un curled the leaves to inspect for pests and there are none ( no bugs, no residue just curled leaves).

Would it be a good idea to move these plants into a grow tent to increase the temperature to 75f and maybe give them a bit more humidity? Should I get a big grow light for them?

(these are indoor potted plants)


-too far north

Citrus General Discussion / Fabric pots?
« on: November 24, 2018, 07:09:06 PM »
Good day all,

So as many of you already know, Canada has legalized Cannabis to consume and grow. That being said every store that has a garden center is now catering to "indoor gardens," specifically I am seeing fabric pots all over the place. In previous posts I have mentioned that I am fighting the war on root rot and soil that stays too wet. I have tried a bunch of different soil amendments but I am still loosing to root rot. I know there are plastic air root pruning containers but I was thinking of kicking it up a notch and using fabric pots to facilitate a dryer soil and perhaps turn the tide against root rot/get more air to the root system.

This being said what do you all think of using a fabric pot for my dwarf citrus trees. They live in my basement under grow lights.


-too far north

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Did I over feed or under feed?
« on: November 09, 2018, 08:08:29 AM »
Thank you for your reply. The plants are indoor plants and are not exposed to snow. However, I have heard of salt build up I have tried to flush the plants as best as possible when watering.

Citrus General Discussion / Did I over feed or under feed?
« on: November 08, 2018, 09:14:26 PM »
Good day all,

Another challenging winter of trying to grow potted citrus indoors in the frigid zone 3A. I have a Navel orange in a 1 gal container and a Eureka lemon in a 4ish gal container. They are in side for the winter as there is snow on the ground and it is -15 degrees Celsius outside ( like 7 degrees F). I have noticed over the last few weeks that there are some light spots showing up on the leaves of my plants. I fertilize ever 2 weeks still with a 30-10-10 fertilizer with trace minerals. I continue to fertilize as they are still pumping out lots of new growth even under CFL bulbs that run 17 hours a day. For the majority of the day the temperature is 69 deg in my basement with a high of 71 and a low of 63. There are no signs of root rot as off the last time i re-potted. Im worried that I have either over or under fertilized. I fertilized the same amount in the summer with great success but the leaves on my lemon tree are not getting as big as they were when I bought it from the nursery.

Below are some pictures. Cheers!

Citrus General Discussion / Re: HELP! Root Rot
« on: October 19, 2018, 07:17:59 PM »
Also I have determined that it isnt winterleaf drop either.

Citrus General Discussion / HELP! Root Rot
« on: October 19, 2018, 07:12:10 PM »
Good day all!

So this summer I was wandering my local Lowe's and happened to see that they had some citrus on sale. It was the middle of the summer and the Key lime plants were going on sale for $7. All of the plants were in rough shape but I felt like I should bring one home and try to revive it. They were all terribly over watered with high pressure garden hoses so some of the root ball was exposed and looking rather dry. When I took it home pulled it out of hits pot to inspect the root system and determined it looked "fine." Fast forward to the last month and about 80% of the leaves have dropped. It has blossomed twice but I pulled all of the flowers after reading that it may help the key lime tree bounce back. Well truth be told it hasn't bounced back and is looking awful. I pulled the tree out of its pot only to find that the bottom roots are brown and somewhat mushy. With my rookie level of experience I have determined that it is in fact root rot. I have a Eureka Lemon and a Navel Orange and they are doing just fine.

The key lime tree is in a 5 gallon plastic pot from Record Buck Farms. I feed it a little bit of 30-10-10 with trace minerals. I also use a moisture meter to ensure I am waiting until it is on the dry side as to not over water.

Is there any way to salvage this lime tree? Should I prune a bunch of limbs and cut off a chunk of the root ball in attempt to save it?

Any advice would be great thanks!

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Indoor citrus/fruit tree grow lights?
« on: September 28, 2018, 09:13:42 PM »
I bought some clamp lights from Home Depot for like $20. With two clamp lights I bought a 42 watt and a 55 watt CFL in 6500k. I have 3 plants under the two lights. my naval orange is doing well my eureka lemon is pumping out new leaves all over and my keylime is flowering like crazy. BTW my plants are in a dark basement with no windows and it's around 65 degrees.

-from the north

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Foliar spray
« on: September 24, 2018, 01:42:05 PM »
Thanks for the reply!

My plants are actually primarily indoor plants. I can only have them outdoors 3 maybe 4 months per year as it is too cold here. I think I will try and find a liquid fertilizer and spray them in small amounts. I am still getting new growth (leaves and flowers).


Citrus General Discussion / Re: Foliar spray
« on: September 23, 2018, 08:33:30 PM »
I totally agree on the weather conditions with respect to a northern climate. Due to my geographical location in Canada, it gets rather cold for longer periods of time. My plants can only be outside for around 3 months (4 if I am lucky) per year. I have two CFL bulbs (55 and 42 watts) feeding my 3 small plants. My eureka lemon is still budding new leaves and my key lime is flowering.

With signs of new growth still happening and the protection of being indoors, would it still be safe to do a bit of foliar feeding as there is no risk of frost damage?

Many thanks!

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Foliar spray
« on: September 23, 2018, 06:33:51 PM »
Could I use something like a blood meal that is 12-0-0 NPK in the form of a foliar feed? Obviously I would dilute it, but I wonder if that would work.

Citrus General Discussion / Foliar spray
« on: September 22, 2018, 03:12:31 PM »
Hello all!

Winter is rolling around here in Canada (6 inches of snow where I live) and I am trying to give my 3 plants the best chance to thrive/survive the winter. I have 1 Eureka lemon, 1 navel orange and 1 key lime. I fertilize them once a month with a 30-10-10 water soluble fertilizer with minerals. . I understand that citrus are heavy nitrogen feeders. Can I use my same 30-10-10 fertilizer as a foliar spray to try and give the plants some extra nitrogen to help keep them thriving over the winter? Or should I go with something else?


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