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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tropic Pink Guava - anyone growing it?
« on: February 18, 2024, 08:47:38 PM »
Kaz, I also grew the la verne tropical pink guava and got white fruit.  They are good fruit but also not pink.  I think the ones from Frank are better.

I tried chopping the tree down but it did not die.  It sent up a bunch of suckers all around the stump.  Then I sprayed it with round up which surprisingly did nothing to it and now I have about 50 suckers coming up and it looks lije a bush.  Very hard to kill plant.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lilikoi - Which Ones Do You Grow
« on: February 18, 2024, 08:41:54 PM »
Kaz, i grew the yellow one but it is not that cold hardy and died after a year or 2.  The purple ones are much better suited for CA.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: avocados in a lemon growing area?
« on: February 17, 2024, 11:36:43 AM »
Is anyone else growing avocados in the area?  That is usually a pretty good indicator.

My experience tells me lemon trees are a lot tougher than avocado trees.  But that is purely anecdotal. 

The tape and stake is choking the tree.  I ditch those as soon as the tree gets home from the store.  You can restake it loosely if it needs it, so that it can move in the wind and lignify.

It's not necessarily what is causing the yellowing but that's a sure way to ruin your tree.

Gold kist, tropic gold

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Bark Grafting Annonas
« on: February 12, 2024, 10:47:43 PM »
Yes, it is the same thing.  I had really good luck with smaller ones 1-3 inches and poor results with larger ones.  But you may have better luck with the big ones. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Coco coir as seed starter?!
« on: February 11, 2024, 05:28:24 PM »
I would think its fine to use.  If you have really expensive seeds maybe stick with a sterile soil. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Coco coir as seed starter?!
« on: February 11, 2024, 03:11:31 PM »
I mix it with black compost and perlite and use for seed starter.  You do need to fertilize it like kevin mentioned. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Young Cherimoya: to defoliate in February?
« on: February 11, 2024, 12:24:42 AM »
The tree is already green and actively growing. It doesnt need to be defoliated.  All that will do is set it back.  You defoliate large trees to induce fruit set when the precious years leaves are spent and ready to come off in winter. Its not necessary on such a small tree that has healthy foliage. 

What you should do is plant it and let it get established for a year.  Then you do some pruning and light leaf stripping to induce new branches.

Just my opinion.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado Bark Grafting
« on: February 09, 2024, 06:33:07 PM »
Post some pictures of the grafts, I am sure others would be interested. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado Bark Grafting
« on: February 09, 2024, 04:10:40 PM »
Another thing lots people are asking for is really thick avocado scion wood.  Scionwood is not really something you can pick based on size.  You want scionwood that has good buds on it and that is typically on the small new growth.  By the time the branches get thicker, the buds have already pushed and made new sub branches.  Some varieties have much better bud wood than other.  Nabal always has tons of buds and big branches.  Reed on the other hand has thinner more weepy growth and scion wood is thin.  GEM is also another smaller size scion.  This is just depends on how that particular variety grows.  It's kind of up to the tree, what size the best bud wood will be.  The more vigorous and upright the type, the best the scionwood is.  The weak droopy trees are harder to get good size scion wood from. 

If you can master your grafting skill, the size of the scion becomes kind of irrelevant.  You can graft mismatched sized wood without problems if you know what tyoe of graft to make and when to prepare for and execute the graft work. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Avocado Bark Grafting
« on: February 09, 2024, 03:40:45 PM »
Theres been a lot of people asking me for scion wood to do bark grafting of avocado trees lately.  Its not just 1 or or 2, its 5 or more people all wanting to do this in February.  Im telling everyone the bark will not slip right now.  You can do cleft grafts but I don't think the bark grafts will work out.  Thats why I have been doing this grafting work in December.  The trees still have sap flow and can be bark grafted.  Thats working quite well the last few years. 

I'm just putting this here so people can understand the best timing for doing avocado grafting and top working. 

If you want to stump a large tree, the best time to do that is mid summer.  It takes 2-3 months and you will have plenty of new growth to graft onto in December-April.  That would be small cleft grafts. 

If you want to top work a tree with 1-2inch diameter branches or main trunk, you can cut it back in early december (in southern CA) the sap will still be flowing and bark will peel off and be able to do bark grafts.  Or you can wait until it warms up again and do it in maybe April.  By that time, the grafts will be seeing a lot more heat and will be hard to get good takes if you live in a hot interior area.  If its a mild coastal area, spring and even summer grafting is not a problem.  Just shade the grafts until well healed and thry are fine.

If you want to do cleft grafts, of course the timing is not critical.  It is just getting the stumping and bark graft timing down that is more important.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Seed grown cherimoya from Rincon Tropics
« on: February 08, 2024, 11:04:37 PM »
To get your tree to brqnch, you can cut it way down like you did then strip off the leaves below the topping point.  The new buds come from under the leaf petiole and need to be stripped to make new branches.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 60 Lbs of KNO3
« on: February 07, 2024, 02:54:14 PM »
desert rose doesn't like much fertilizer.  you could put a pinch in bit of water and use it but don't use much they get messed up.

the potassium nitrate is pretty strong.  You should try using a small amount spread out over several waterings. I would try disolving it and watering with it every month and see how it goes.  you want to spread it out over space and time, thats why i'm saying disolve it and spread it around vs putting a bunch in 1 spot.  don't over do it, more is not always better.

A couple things about doing it that way.  The cherimoya tree gets pretty large before fruiting.  Like 10ftx10ft with a 6in+ trunk.  And at this point they are a lot more difficult to top work than say an avocado.  They dont like to be stumped when they are this large size.  They can but it seems to generate new suckers from the ground and the old stump can die off.  Just something to keep in mind.  The variety change over on these trees is sort of a pain.  I have several i need to do and theres not a great way to do it. 

I think Dr white is the most hardy and prolific and vigorous.  The smooth skin types are not as tough.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Need Help to ID This Atemoya
« on: February 05, 2024, 03:09:04 PM »
The one in the bottom photo looks like AP and also the dark sports around the seeds like seng said. 

Those fruit will get sweeter if left longer.  AP turn slightly yellowish and get sticky on the outside when it's really ripe. 

The LM3 is a better atemoya Kaz.  I wouldn't bother growing AP.  Either regular cherimoya or LM3 are better fruits. Personally I think cherimoya is a lot better than atemoya.  Not so chewy and cleaner flavors.  A pierce, honeyhart, Inca red, are all going to blow these atemoyas away. 

I do have a SB peach tree grafted from scions you sent but it is just hitting maturity now and may make fruit this year.  It was grafted on a small rootstock and is still smallish size. 

I have a manualmjuicer I want to sell if you want to buy one cheap.  I bought a motorized one and dont use the manualmone anymore.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WTB Avocado Scions type b only
« on: January 28, 2024, 08:54:09 PM »
Send me a message and we can work it out.  I have one called Hellen that is a good one that is also a B type. 

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WTB Avocado Scions type b only
« on: January 28, 2024, 07:14:11 PM »
I have some sharwils if you want.  Not sure what others are type B.  Maybe reed.  I have lots of reed, sharwil, nabal.  I know sharwil is a B and reed and nabal may be? 

Yes sure i have them

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Duke avocado scions
« on: January 28, 2024, 07:11:49 PM »
Seems like you already know what you need to do. 

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Dr white cherimoyas
« on: January 27, 2024, 07:48:54 PM »
Sold out.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Dr white cherimoyas
« on: January 27, 2024, 03:12:25 PM »
I just have a little extra cherimoyas that Im looking to sell.  Just a couple boxes worth.  Its Dr white fruits.  7$ per pound.  I only am shipping to CA unless you want to pay for expedited shipping outside of CA.  The reason is just so the fruit make it there in good shape. 

If I dont respond to your PM, I am already sold out. 


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