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The ones I get from Walmart are always good. You have to get them when they first come in season. I feel that the commercial ones are not good after January. I feel the same way with blood oranges being only good till March. Once April hits they are half red and watery

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: big Gold Nugget mandarins
« on: March 01, 2025, 09:56:08 PM »
How cold have you let your golden nugget get down to?

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Citrus In ground Zone 8a
« on: February 10, 2025, 11:27:29 AM »
I have most of these varieties in zone 8b. As long as you cover with fabric and light them up you’ll be fine. I’ve been doing this method for 7/8 years.

Check out millennial gardener on YouTube

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I love a good red fleshed grapefruit and want to grow one. My concerns are:

Will the summer be long enough to get plump fruits?

Anyone growing these in pots with success in more temperate regions like myself?

I’ve also wanted to grow Ugli fruit but I read these need a longer summer than my zone 8 can offer. My hunch says grapefruit are similar?

Thanks!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Repotting Jabo help
« on: December 16, 2024, 08:20:22 PM »
This fall I went from a 15gallon to a 25 gallon which sits in a 2” saucer that I don’t empty? And overflows when I water weekly.. Right now the tree has 20 fruit forming and is about to reflower like crazy. I only disturbed the outer 1” of the roots when I repotted. My soil temps are always >65f, air temps may dip down to 50 and I put a a bunch of cedar mulch in the bottom of the pot so the substrate won’t rot when sitting in water.

I think soil temps are super important for container plants. I used to water with cool water in the winter 50F, and most of my plants suffered, mango and citrus really bad. Things seem much happier now the water is 80-85F.


Interesting. How the heck do you get temps like that in the winter?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Repotting Jabo help
« on: December 16, 2024, 12:09:20 PM »
I have some nice 5 year old jabos havent repotted in a while. They dry out fast even now in the winter.

Would it be okay to up-pot to something 25% bigger now? I know it’s winter. The reason I ask is they stay in a cool greenhouse during this season never getting below 43f

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Making Labels
« on: December 01, 2024, 11:05:25 AM »
I also use the aluminum cans but they aren’t my favorite. I’m Taking notes guys

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If you are pushing things on cold hardiness and are expecting a catastrophic freeze, temporarily mulching several feet deep around each tree can be a huge help. I have seen people get bananas to fruit in the Charleston, SC area with that trick. They built a cage with wire fencing several feet in diameter around the plant and mulched a foot above where the leaves come out of the trunk. That way only the top of plants gets frozen back. Lift the cage and spread the mulch after the immediate danger is past. Trees will die if buried for weeks, so cages have to be removed. It would be a fair amount of work doing this 10 times a Winter, once or twice is well worth it to save the plant. Foam pipe insulation around smaller scaffold limbs can help too if the trees are still small. Pruning back to main scaffolds just before the freeze might help too.
  If you had a rural property with a tractor and loader, you could bury trees to save grafts and main scaffolds and dig them out carefully after the freeze.
 Get a couple big bales of hay or a pile of wood chips to keep on hand during the winter months, it probably would have saved all the trees lost in New Orleans. A big enough pile of wood chips that has been sitting a while and kick started with some compost starter and water will actually generate its own heat from starting to decompose. If the warm pile is a few feet from the trees, that can help too... Carambola/Starfruit would seem a good candidate for zone pushing since the tree fruits heavily at a small size. Bell is my favorite variety. You might need to bury the whole tree with mulch during freezes for a winter crop of fruit though.
 These tips might make a difference of a few degrees to hopefully save some trees... Same basic principles people use to protect tea roses and small ornamentals in REALLY cold areas....

I’m in Myrtle Beach and I get bananas each and every year. I remove the corm just before first frost. Just did so 2 days ago. Then I store all the banana stalks in the garage and replant come April 1st. Last year I got bananas from a stalk that was literally bare root. I’ve seen people do the cages. Seems like a lot of hard work and waste of mulch with  guarantee

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Help with cold protection
« on: November 20, 2024, 09:51:48 AM »
I regularly cover my patio citrus with incandescent Xmas lights and cover when needed in my zone 8b. I’ve fully protected my Starfruits and jabos overwintering in the garage. I’m wondering if starfruits and jaboticaba (red and sabra) can tolerate temps in the very low 40s and tolerate a some cold winds? I want to add them to the winterized patio citrus but absolutely can not risk losing them. I do pretty well keeping the citrus happy in the winter with my technique but once or twice a winter I do get some tip burn.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Neotropical Blueberries
« on: October 10, 2024, 06:19:49 PM »
Is there any books or good YouTube videos on the Neotropical blueberries?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Hurricane Milton
« on: October 10, 2024, 06:15:07 PM »
Believe it or not the Earth has cold and hot phases. We are currently moving towards the next ice great age. Ice core samples show this to occur very roughly every 10-12,000 years.
Source Randall Carlson

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Summer Limes for year around harvest?
« on: September 21, 2024, 08:15:24 AM »
I harvested 22lbs off my Persian lime in zone 8. I did half mid August and half at the end of August.  I freeze the juice in trays and they last all year maybe even more.

If you’re not sure when to harvest limes they are harvested green and under ripe usually in mid to late summer. Some may start to have a tiny yellow blemish. But taste test one and if you like it then harvest them all. Take notes so you no next year

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All citrus, I’ve had success with starfruit, jabos, and sugar apples, dragon fruit, passionfruit on tomato cages, different variety of cacti,

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Late summer prune?
« on: September 01, 2024, 07:34:02 AM »
For me in Australia it's Spring (We've already hit 30C) and the weather is great.
For you in the states, today starts Autumn, and I'm not sure about you local conditions, but I reckon you would get your first frost in approx. a month and a half, but I could be a bit off. I wouldn't do tipping of trees yet, I would wait until Spring (Or when you are certain that the last frost has passed).
Cheers.

Thanks for the input. Generally my first frost hits around the 3rd week of November/first week of December. So there’s atleast 10 weeks before frost arrives.

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Citrus General Discussion / Late summer prune?
« on: August 30, 2024, 09:29:37 AM »
I’m in zone 8b. I have a few plants that could use some tipping and slight shaping. Is it too late in the season to be doing this? I’m concerned about leaf miners now and the new growth not hardening up in time before (whispers) winter. Any advice is appreciated

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My 3 year old Persian has never fruited. I pruned it hard this winter. It has a lot of new growth and I’m thinking about hacking it now. I want mulberries! Your advice is appreciated

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I’m in zone 8b and I’d would say neither would make it. In the past 3 years I’ve had a handful of days get down to 12F and snow. Pomelo needs long long hot summers for a good harvest and no days below freezing. I also have Cara Cara and even with a frost blanket and old school incandescent Christmas lights it hates the lower 20s and gets winter die back. I would def build an enclosure around it in the winter and maybe add bricks around the trunk

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: New Zealand lemonade vs Meyer lemon
« on: April 23, 2024, 12:32:29 PM »
I would recommend eureka or lisbon lemons over meyer.  I would most likely not have a meyer lemon tree if I was able to grow standard lemon varieties in my climate.  Meyer lemons to me have an off taste.  Meyer is a highly productive tree if you like the fruit but I prefer other lemon varieties over meyer.

I agree. Meyer lemons are low quality and not worth growing. I would recommend Lisbon or Harvey

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Yuzu Fingerlime cross
« on: April 23, 2024, 12:31:03 PM »
Not to be rude at all but what’s the point of this cross? I use Yuzu strictly for the rind (and I have more superior options but that’s all I find it useful for). I would think zesting a yuzu finger lime would be pointless and the taste would be much lower in quality with ten million seeds inside

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Growing Pummeloin colder zones possible?
« on: April 21, 2024, 09:46:53 AM »
I’d love to grow a Valentine Pummelo but I’m not sure if it will get the heat it needs in my zone. Protecting it from frost isn’t a concern for me. I just want to see if anyone else is growing it in more sub tropical-temperate climate with any success.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Turunji - A Citrus You Eat Like An Apple
« on: February 25, 2024, 02:51:46 PM »
The citrus in 2" pots I have bought from Logee's have been severely root bound. I had to remove all soil from the root balls and cut away large circling or "J" shaped roots. I had to do that to two Turunji's I bought from them and both now have yellow leaves, which I believe is due to root problems.

This is common from logees. Every plant I ordered was like this. Super tiny pot and root bound for high dollar prices.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Turunji - A Citrus You Eat Like An Apple
« on: February 25, 2024, 02:46:05 PM »
I’ve tasted these before and wasted my time growing these. After growing these before trying, I told myself I would never buy a plant before tasting it first. Total disappointment.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Best Potting Soil
« on: February 25, 2024, 02:41:12 PM »
If you are in the southeast miracle grow garden soil in the dark green bag is really good. I pot most of my citrus and tropicals in this with a very small amount of manure

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: compact lemon options
« on: February 25, 2024, 02:39:05 PM »
Harvey lemon is my favorite lemony taste and it’s an ornamental bush in my landscape. Massive harvests too. It’s on flying dragon rootstock

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: February 25, 2024, 02:34:22 PM »




The wait is almost over! Dragonfruit is major slave labor on the east coast zone 8 with no greenhouse. Too much humidity and storms. I Lost a few branches and fruit during a December tornado but still got 3 for a tasting. I really really hope fresh picked DF blows store bought out of the water like some claim.

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