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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Hand Pollination - passiflora decaisneana
« on: December 06, 2023, 09:24:01 PM »
Gerald, you were lucky, my critters ate more than half of my fruits. I started with 37 fruits, only ended up with about 13-15 that was ready to eat. I will try to post some photos later.
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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: PT-plusXValentine cross
« on: December 03, 2023, 07:55:23 AM »
When my tree has flowers I will save it for you, just give me the proper method to store it for you. Right now my tree has many large fruits hanging.
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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: PT-plusXValentine cross
« on: December 03, 2023, 06:03:47 AM »
FYI, I have a very large tree that is mainly Valentine and Reinking pomelo. If any of you would like me to save some pollen i can try and send it to you for your next experiment. I always get many Valentine fruits on my large tree. I was thinking of cutting the tree down to half the size next week so let me know if any of you would like the pollen then maybe I will leave the tree alone to get more pollen. Tree is about 30 yrs old.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Can you grow Soursop/Guanabana in California
« on: December 02, 2023, 04:42:03 PM »
I got mine as a gift, it is the golden colored fruit so it's special, need to keep it alive.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Can you grow Soursop/Guanabana in California
« on: December 02, 2023, 12:55:34 PM »
Tony,
I'm in SoCal (Fullerton area) and I got one plant that a friend had grown from seed for 4 years. He had to keep it inside at night so it would not get stressed when it got cold. He ended up keeping his plant in his shower (haha) for 2 years, the tree grew well, about 4 ft when he got tired of it in the shower so he gave it to me to try to grow outside. I did keep it in the pot outside for 2 years, it grew fine but would drop all the leaves in winter. Then in spring it would start to slowly get its leaves back and grow a little. But it does get some branch die back every winter from the cold. I got tire of babying the tree and one day it dried up and died.
Now I have another rare guanabana plant from a forum friend and this time, I know it needs to be in a greenhouse during the colder months when temps get in the mid 40's. I'm making a cheap DIY greenhouse from some Home Depot clearance glass patio tables to protect the plant.
I'm in SoCal (Fullerton area) and I got one plant that a friend had grown from seed for 4 years. He had to keep it inside at night so it would not get stressed when it got cold. He ended up keeping his plant in his shower (haha) for 2 years, the tree grew well, about 4 ft when he got tired of it in the shower so he gave it to me to try to grow outside. I did keep it in the pot outside for 2 years, it grew fine but would drop all the leaves in winter. Then in spring it would start to slowly get its leaves back and grow a little. But it does get some branch die back every winter from the cold. I got tire of babying the tree and one day it dried up and died.
Now I have another rare guanabana plant from a forum friend and this time, I know it needs to be in a greenhouse during the colder months when temps get in the mid 40's. I'm making a cheap DIY greenhouse from some Home Depot clearance glass patio tables to protect the plant.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: "Passiflora-quadrangularis Challenge"
« on: November 30, 2023, 10:57:25 PM »
Your plant is growing nice.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: "Passiflora-quadrangularis Challenge"
« on: November 30, 2023, 08:27:30 PM »
That is good to hear. Yes, please post a photo of the plant.
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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Amalfi Coast Lemon ID
« on: November 29, 2023, 04:46:33 PM »
That fruit looks correct.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: "Passiflora-quadrangularis Challenge"
« on: November 29, 2023, 04:44:26 PM »
Any more updates on the rooted cuttings?
I have some bad news on my large vine, it died, probably to much stress when I cut it back so much. Or it could have gotten broken in the main trunk area and I didn't see it. Either way, my large vine is dried up and dead now so my Pomelo can grow strong again.
Lucky for me I had the 2-3 cuttings I started in water to show how to root them so I can start over with those plants now.
So, hope your cuttings are doing well, you may be the only one to have this unknown variety and can give it a name when it has the first fruit, hopefully next year.
I have some bad news on my large vine, it died, probably to much stress when I cut it back so much. Or it could have gotten broken in the main trunk area and I didn't see it. Either way, my large vine is dried up and dead now so my Pomelo can grow strong again.
Lucky for me I had the 2-3 cuttings I started in water to show how to root them so I can start over with those plants now.
So, hope your cuttings are doing well, you may be the only one to have this unknown variety and can give it a name when it has the first fruit, hopefully next year.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Hand Pollination - passiflora decaisneana
« on: November 29, 2023, 02:46:32 PM »
If anyone else had success with this passion fruit, please post some photos of your fruit, and also let me know if you have a good way to protect the fruits from the critters that like to eat them just when it is ready to pick.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Hand Pollination - passiflora decaisneana
« on: November 29, 2023, 02:45:12 PM »
Here's my update on the fruits that actually made it until ripe without any critters eating them.
I hand pollinated as many flowers as I could daily, what a lot of work, but very exciting when I saw the small fruit set in about a week. I covered every fruit with the organza bags.
After the fruits started getting larger, now I had to wait until it ripened as Ron and others had said. It was not quite brown yet, just starting to show some light color (not green any more). Then I noticed one by one the larger fruits were getting holes one the side or the entire half of the fruits were eaten through the bags. So, I double bagged the remaining fruits, and they were still getting eatten through the bags. Tried brown paper lunch bag, it didnt work, so I just let them grow until I saw a slgith brown to dark brown skin to pick them.
The good news is I did end up getting 13 nice size fruits that seems to be ripe now. The bad news is I started out with 37 fruitlets so I thought I should get about 30 good fruits to send out one to each friend on the forum, sorry that won't happen this year.
I will post some photos of the fruits later tonight.
I hand pollinated as many flowers as I could daily, what a lot of work, but very exciting when I saw the small fruit set in about a week. I covered every fruit with the organza bags.
After the fruits started getting larger, now I had to wait until it ripened as Ron and others had said. It was not quite brown yet, just starting to show some light color (not green any more). Then I noticed one by one the larger fruits were getting holes one the side or the entire half of the fruits were eaten through the bags. So, I double bagged the remaining fruits, and they were still getting eatten through the bags. Tried brown paper lunch bag, it didnt work, so I just let them grow until I saw a slgith brown to dark brown skin to pick them.
The good news is I did end up getting 13 nice size fruits that seems to be ripe now. The bad news is I started out with 37 fruitlets so I thought I should get about 30 good fruits to send out one to each friend on the forum, sorry that won't happen this year.
I will post some photos of the fruits later tonight.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Hand Pollination - passiflora decaisneana
« on: November 29, 2023, 02:37:02 PM »
Yes, you can eat the rind, here's an excerpt from Hoang who gave me my first cuttingis that turn into this large vine with many fruits this year.
"Passiflora decaisneana is the hybrid of passiflora quadrangularis (giant granadilla) and passiflora alata. Its rind is edible. The arils are sweet (a little sour), excellent taste. "
You do need to hand pollinate the flower (self) or you will not get fruits from my experience this year. Also, for me here in SoCal, the vine flowers from July - November, but the flowers that are hand pollinated in July/August are the ones with fruit set the best.
"Passiflora decaisneana is the hybrid of passiflora quadrangularis (giant granadilla) and passiflora alata. Its rind is edible. The arils are sweet (a little sour), excellent taste. "
You do need to hand pollinate the flower (self) or you will not get fruits from my experience this year. Also, for me here in SoCal, the vine flowers from July - November, but the flowers that are hand pollinated in July/August are the ones with fruit set the best.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2023 White Sapote Taste Test - Best Ones on Your Trees
« on: November 28, 2023, 02:52:42 PM »
Oh, didn't realize it was you Thien, if I have my next Younghan's Gold fruits (have green fruits now) then I can send you a few. All the other varieties right now have just some small fruitlets on the grafts. I will send you a PM when my fruit is ripe.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2023 White Sapote Taste Test - Best Ones on Your Trees
« on: November 28, 2023, 02:47:26 PM »
greenerpasteur, sorry, I only have my smaller trees that have the yellow sapote rootstock (seedling) and my McDill seedling (that is grafted with c.tetrameria) so both of these trees do not get that large. I have over 20 varieties on each tree so there are not enough fruits on the trees to share, I barely get to taste each one to post photos here for the taste comparisons.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2023 White Sapote Taste Test - Best Ones on Your Trees
« on: November 28, 2023, 12:20:53 PM »
I have not read those articles. I just wondering myself why some varieties such as Younghan's Gold has yellow flesh when ripe but the leaves have no fuzz underneath it. There are some named yellow sapote that can be distinguished by the wooly leaf (CT#6, #7. my seedling Maddox) and the trees do not grow fast, stays small after 5 yrs. The taste of the fruits seems to be different to me when I eat a know white sapote and compare it to the yellow sapote.
I suppose if it white sapote is a cross between the two then there would be no way to categorize it as either.
I suppose if it white sapote is a cross between the two then there would be no way to categorize it as either.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: White Sapote Fruit Shapes
« on: November 28, 2023, 12:07:49 PM »
Yes, definitely could be from an existing named variety.
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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Kumquats seedlings dying
« on: November 27, 2023, 09:35:03 PM »
The weak ones die, the strong ones survive. I plant all my seeds in a community pot and the ones that remain are the strongest. Also applies to loquat seeds I plant.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2023 White Sapote Taste Test - Best Ones on Your Trees
« on: November 27, 2023, 09:33:20 PM »
Fishie, you can tell from the leaves. The yellow sapote leaves have the fuzzy/wooly bottom side so it's pretty easy to tell. But no, you can't look at the seed and differentiate between the white and yellow seeds.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2023 White Sapote Taste Test - Best Ones on Your Trees
« on: November 27, 2023, 05:27:16 PM »
Ok, sounds good.
I haven't seen the FB (Harvey's) page before, thanks, doesn't seem like it is current. Also, Marta has a very good review when she has chance to taste the white sapote. From her blog, I heard about Harvey's seedling variety he calls B3 (Delta Gold) and got that one grafted on my tree.
There is another database on the White Sapote, someone here posted from it before.
I haven't seen the FB (Harvey's) page before, thanks, doesn't seem like it is current. Also, Marta has a very good review when she has chance to taste the white sapote. From her blog, I heard about Harvey's seedling variety he calls B3 (Delta Gold) and got that one grafted on my tree.
There is another database on the White Sapote, someone here posted from it before.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best Tasting Wooly Leaf -Yellow Sapote ( C.Tetrameria) ?
« on: November 27, 2023, 01:03:44 PM »
Ok, just checked the leaves on the Younghan's Gold, it is not wooley so I guess it is a white sapote even though the flesh is very yellow.
Younghan's is top 3 in taste for me. The best Florida white sapote I have growing on my tree. Vey productive, as soon as it finishes fruiting, it starts again, I have many fruits on it right now. Highly recommend it for those who can grow only a few varieties. The other excellent variety is the C. Tetrameria #7, very productive and excellent flavor.
Younghan's is top 3 in taste for me. The best Florida white sapote I have growing on my tree. Vey productive, as soon as it finishes fruiting, it starts again, I have many fruits on it right now. Highly recommend it for those who can grow only a few varieties. The other excellent variety is the C. Tetrameria #7, very productive and excellent flavor.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: White Sapote Fruit Shapes
« on: November 27, 2023, 12:00:34 PM »
Just had a few Clytia white sapote frutis, taste was excellent, it has a small shpe like a potato, like to take some photos and post it.
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