The Tropical Fruit Forum

They have a gamble rooted cutting - could be nagami or meiwa if you’re willing to take the chance.. Their cuttings are top notch though.

Got a lot of FD seeds ready to go. Pm me if anyone wants any. Seeds aren’t harvested until day before shipment.

Frank, if you are growing in containers I agree with you that FD might be too dwarfing.  However, when I planted trees on c-35 and other unknown rootstocks in the ground they became extremely vigorous, growing easily 3x as fast as they did in their containers.

I feel the rhizosphere has a large impact on this! It would make sense that they'd be a lot better in ground. Overall though, I think C-35 is one of the best for containers. FD is good for kumquats, as they are happy small and can hold lots of fruit at their small size.

Personally, I would prefer trees on other things than FD. I’ve found a semi-dwarf such as C-35 or Standard Trifoliate, or even US-942 are much better choices, even in containers. FD in containers tends to grow about 1.5ft and non stop fruit, rarely putting on any other foliage. So leaving the tree rather bare and to struggle a lot. Just my personal preference though. Trees on FD rootstock just grow so awfully slow!

https://madisoncitrusnursery.com/products/flying-dragon-citrus-rootstock-for-sale

Located in GA

I’ve been searching for years, haven’t found one yet.

This seems to be the only place I can find them, but from Australia so take it as you will. I haven’t purchased from here before so I cannot say anything about them.

https://herbalistics.com.au/product/citrus-glauca-desert-lime-seed/

Awesome, thank you for your input! I originally planned to use it as a main component in bonsai substrate. So I will likely use it as that, as well as citrus container mixes.

I just wanted to run this by a few more knowledgeable people than I.. I wanted to use the remainder of my cherry stone grit in my citrus containers but wanted to ensure there wouldn’t be drawbacks. It is made of granite stone, no larger than that of turface/smaller pea gravel. Since it’s an igneous rock, I know it has a high mineral content, but they tend not to leach unless in powdered form. Correct me if I’m wrong here?

Got some fresh flying dragon seeds if anyone is interested.

15 seeds for $5, $4 for shipping.

I’ve tested all these below:

Mars Hydro (1000w, and 2500w, 120w and 260w actual)
Sonofarm (1000w and 4000w, 100w and 440w actual)
Viparspectra (1000w, ? Actual)
Unitfarm (1000w, 60w actual)
Canagrow (300w bulb, 60w actual)
Sansi LED (70w actual)
Bloom Plus (1000w, 80w actual)
And various burple lights I would never touch again lol.

In my opinion, the best is sonofarm. Same quality as Mars Hydro, only cheaper. Plus a 5 year warranty? Can’t beat it! Made with quality Samsung LM301B’s, plus genuine controllers.. It has fewer chips than the Mars, but run more power through each. A little lower power consumption overall, but very equivalent to Mars and runs around $100 less.

So sonofarm and Mars tie for output, but sonofarm sells them cheaper with a longer warranty. Viparspectra would be a good second place after the two tie, and bloom plus is not far behind (especially for the price). The brightness is definitely noticeable when comparing bloom plus to sonofarm, but quite similar to viparspectra. So due to the price point, I’d rather buy 2 bloom plus for the same price of 1 viparspectra lol.

Unit farm would come in next, but it has more of a harsh white light to it than a warm full spectrum. Still grows my trees well! I use it for newly grafted trees as it’s not so intense.

Sansi is my number 4, but when spending the money, I’d rather buy panels. Sansi sells their 70w for $70, and bloom plus panel is around $45. Bloom plus has much better coverage. Canagrow makes a really nice high powered bulb if you’re just looking for something small. $25 can’t beat that.

So anyway, sonofarm is my top (plus they’re all dimmable) I plan to buy more panels to replace the others as my trees grow and I feel like investing. In the pic below, left two panels are both sonofarm, on the right far back is my 2500w Mars, and the other two are both bloom plus. I’m using the viparspectra and other Mars over my rooted cuttings. All in all, my actual draw is around 1000w TOTAL using everything I have plus two root mats and 3 ventilation fans. If you look closely, you can see the difference in brightness of the chips. Sonofarm I feel takes the crown over all. I will note that the Mars has been used last winter so brightness does deteriorate overtime.

Pic was a little cut off.

I tried to root them before from cuttings, but had little luck. You got yours from nuncar?

I just plugged around 30 to root this time around to see how it goes now that I have upgraded my equipment.