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 ;D 8), 3,5 years now after planting my frosthardy citrus
I could this year now harvest first fruits from my inground
Citrus in zone 7, only passiv protected, exception Satsuma Collot
which I protected with heater below -7 C.


The 3 varieties, Yuzu x Citrumelo, Satsuma Collot and Sanford F2 Curafora



Yuzu x Citrumelo, nearly 40 seeds in the fruit.
Taste of the rind lemony now when ripe. Flesh medium juicy, taste lemon grapefruit mix, light bitterness, but
but not with any aftertaste. Overall not bad for a very frosthardy
Citrushybrid and a good hybrid for further breeding.

Sanford F2 Curafora, after the harvest this year, with nearly ripe
fruits End of November, now for me one of the best frosthardy citrus hybrids.
Taste, mandarin grapefruit taste, very juicy, about 10 seeds per fruit.

Satsuma Collot, very good taste, sweet, nearly no acid. Astonished that already mid/ end of November
fruits are very delicious.



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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Earliest ripening citrus
« on: November 30, 2023, 01:52:18 AM »
Hello Jim, as always very interesting and helpful your p- osts, thank you.
Didn' you test Owari Satsumas ? I have a Satsuma Collot ( Owaritype) 3 years in ground, protected under -7 C.
With first 2 fruits this year.
So having 2 fruits and seeing first light freezes nearing, I tested one fruit the
25 of November though in literature Owari is described as ripe in December/
January.
But as surprise I got a sweet, good tasting satsuma, see the pictures, the bigger fruit.
Still some questions I have to you:
- what are you doing with all your Yuzus, sudachis , Kaboshus and Thomasville ?
- what lows as temperature can your sudachi and kabosus take to survive ?







Best regards
Frank

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Southeastern Citrus Expo
« on: November 26, 2023, 05:04:39 PM »
This year's talks were recorded.  Some of the topics are:
Dr. Juan Carlos Melgar, Clemson U - Winners and Losers from the 2022 Christmas freeze. 
Hershell Boyd, Madison Citrus - From Zero to 200 Citrus Varieties in 2 Years. 
2023 SE Citrus Expo - Confessions of Certified Citruholics 
Many thanks to Derick Nantz for his efforts.   
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmGyHdsSsGc&list=PLz1OK2nyDTOCgLBukjR7pfXOKK5lv76Ye

Very interesting videos, thanks for sharing the link

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Citrus garden at 48.5N
« on: November 25, 2023, 04:40:16 PM »
Congratulation Ilya, wonderful pictures.
How do you rank the frosthardiness of Changsha ?
Did the fruit size and flesh amount of your crosses Ichangstar, ...
improve with the years ?
Regards Frank

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: IchangensisXSinensis from B.Voss
« on: November 22, 2023, 02:40:26 PM »
Nice citrushybrid, seems still very rare and new.
Fruit taste seems for frosthardy hybrid good,
question is the frosthardiness of the plant ?

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Looks promising your Owari Satsuma.
We have now announced colder weather with freeze by night.
So I have harvested some fruits of my inground citrus
for trying to let them ripen still some weeks indoor,
while letting other fruits of this plants outdoor to compare
maturity and resistance of the fruits to freezes.
In the picture the upper 3 fruits are from inground citrus (ausgepflanzt),
others from pots (Topf).

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: PT-plusXValentine cross
« on: November 18, 2023, 12:36:27 PM »
Interesting combination Ilya, Valentine excellent pomelo and quite early maturity,
mine  have  been excellent foer eating mid January.
So my question is are the fruits of PT plus also without poncirus taste ?
Curious how your seedlings come out ? Beginning with your hardiness tests
and leaf taste ?

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Nice pictures of your Keraji 👍.
Yes Keraji is long and vigorous growing but it seems not really a problem
for frosthardiness.
Here a comparison of size from my Sanford F2 Curafora in ground with a
Clementine of Scilia  (from pot, weight of 53 g ).


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Yes, I think Keraji is a good Citrusvariety for  colder regions. Mine flowered this year after 4 years in ground, but kept no fruits :-\ but she grows very fast, 2m high now.. Hope for next year.
But Keraji has late, but really delicious fruits.
Enjoy your harvest  ;).

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Hello Boris,
very interesting your Infos to your climate and your plants.
I' m astonished that it gets quite cold at
 the shores on thf black see.
@ Poncirusguy, with your deep winter temperatures it is really a hard work
to bring citrus over the winter - respect !.

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: First bloom of my citrumeloXichanagensis hybrids
« on: November 06, 2023, 12:35:09 PM »
Hello Ilya, congratulation to your post, very interesting and informative.
Very nice to see the success of your long time breeding project.
So your 123270 seems to be a very good result, extremely frosthardy,
tasty, not to seedy and early naturity.
Very very good, chapeau.

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Thank you Boris   :), in the next few weeks ( depending on freezes), I will still harvest my first fruit/s of Yuzu x Citrumelo, Satsuma Collot and further fruits of Sanford Curafora and taste them.
A tastetest update will follow then  ;).
What s about your climate, should be very good for Citrus in ground ?

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Finally,  ;D, after 4 years in ground I could eat my first delicious
inground citrus fruit, Sanford Curafora, though the fruit got split it was good to eat.
Mild grapefruit and mandarin taste, very juicy.
Always thought it s only ripe and tasty in March or April, but that s not the case, inground
it get s ripe November to December  :P.






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Fruits of inground citrus making good progress to maturity,
current weather forecast sees no bigger freezes the next weeks,
so maturity can go on.


Yuzu x Citrumelo slowly getting yellow. It' s the first fruit so I have no expirience when to pick, but I guess
mid November to mid December should be fine


Sanford Curafora growing good and looks nice, but I think before bigger freezes in January or Februarywill come,   I will have to pick them. One fruit - test pick 3 weeks ago - already made a good tasty refreshing drink.


Satsuma Collot (clone of Owari), two first fruits, look good, size gets acceptable, but still will wait to pick. As I have read best time to pick for Owari should be about December to January.


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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Ways to protect your citrus trees in ground
« on: October 21, 2023, 02:42:40 AM »
Hello Mike,
I only use sometimes for more protection coconut mat aroundbthe stem or young grafting area,
otherwise only one ore two layer fleece and water bottles.
For Satsuma I use the same + electric heating the few days temperature drops
below -8 C.
With straw, leaves I fear to get rot infections to the plant.
Best regards Frank

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Seedling of Nippon Orangequat, 10 months old, shows extremly leathery leaves.
Will plant him in ground next spring, hope that this is also a sign of cold hardiness ?
Does everyone know if there is a correlation between leathery leaves and cold hardiness ?


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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Earliest ripening citrus
« on: September 27, 2023, 02:38:51 AM »
Thanks Jim, very interesting summary  :)

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Yuzu x Citrumelo,
now nearly about 7 cm in diameter, curious to the ripe fruit but
guess this will still need another 2 to 3 months.
But as citrus nerds we are used to wait  ;)

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: insulate the trunk with swimming pool noodles
« on: September 10, 2023, 12:35:31 AM »
I only used cocos mat to some trunks or young grafting units to isolate.
I took this to not get condensating water to the plants.

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Short fruitupdate of two inground citrusplants

Satsuma Collot with first two fruits, curious to month of ripeness
and taste, shall be a variety of Owari



Yuzu x Citrumelo is good growing, 6 cm diameter now

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Nice tree, could give some unteresting new frosthardy hybrids when blooming - only specification of the hybrids won ' t be possible. I also try to use my established outdoor citrus to test frosthardiness of different citrus varieties  ;)

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This summer 3 new citrus hybrids planted in ground for winter hardiness test.
On the picture in front a graft of Ichang lemon on Dunstan citrumelo.
Behind FA5  and at an other Place I planted two year old graft of Ichangstar 60 on PT.

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From 5 blooming citrus in ground keraji and HRS899a lost their fruitlets.
Sanford Curafora, Satsuma Collot and Yuzu x Citrumelo keep their fruits, at least one  ;).
As Yuzu x Citrumelo in the picture grows nice


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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Morton flowering again
« on: July 21, 2023, 04:27:07 PM »
Cool, congratulation. My Morton s are three and two years in ground on FA5 and Flying dragon, but still no flowers.
Hoping for next year  ;)

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Yes sure, if i get it to maturity I will report  ;)

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