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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jabuticaba soil mixes used
« on: January 25, 2023, 09:48:13 PM »
All my jaboticabas are potted in Miracle Gro potting soil. I've had no nutrient deficiencies or root problems with any of them. Of course, I also regularly fertilize them with Espoma to prevent the former and up pot them incrementally to prevent the latter. I've occasionally had tip burn on a few jaboticabas, Plinia rivularis seemingly being the most sensitive, but that was when I was forced to use city water on them. Frankly, I've been surprised since I started growing jaboticabas over the past few years at just how easy they are to grow.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: More temperate, less tropical for zone8
« on: January 19, 2023, 02:45:22 AM »
…I think we get too hot for hazelnuts?…

Regardless of temperature, Eastern Filbert Blight makes growing hazelnuts a non-starter over much of the US.

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In my part of the US, we had a bitter, record-breaking cold spell around Christmas. Temperatures were as low as 2°F (I think that is about -15°C), and we did not get above freezing for 90 hours. We had not had a cold snap like that for thirty years. Since that time, temperatures have fluctuated between average and above average spells. All the native plants in my area are unaffected by such cycles, but there are some non-native ornamentals which have shown signs of stirring from dormancy. It would be a bigger problem for me if my fruiting plants were acting that way and the way yours are. Unfortunately, short of protecting plants if they come out of dormancy, there is nothing you can do to push them back into dormancy.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Noble Juicy Crunch Tangerine
« on: January 18, 2023, 06:23:02 PM »
Juicy Crunch is an excellent citrus variety, a standout among the blandness that usually fills the grocery store produce section. Publix has been carrying it for, I believe, three years. Although usually entirely seedless, every few fruits will have a viable seed. I've been growing my own plants for a couple of years from those rare seeds. It is the only way for a home grower to have access to Juicy Crunch; it is a patented variety that will likely never be available to the public.

Also, this topic should be moved to the Citrus General Discussion section of the Forum.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Most Difficult to Grow Trees
« on: January 08, 2023, 02:31:00 PM »
Citrus are one of the hardest types for me to grow. While I do not have to worry about HLB, I do have to make sure their potting mix is just right and constantly defend them from spider mites.

Sapindaceae are probably the most difficult for me. I've managed to keep one lychee alive long-term but with the exception of that lychee and the generally easy-to-grow Mamoncillo, I've killed many other plants in that genus. I've given up on growing rambutan or pulasan.

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I don't live in Florida, but I hope the cold I'm about to experience in North Alabama doesn't make it down to you. Each station's weather forecast is a little different but my low temperature on Friday is projected to be somewhere between 2°F and 7°F, and my area is expected to stay below freezing for about 84 straight hours. Needless to say, I am prepared for a high heating bill this month. Luckily, everything I have planted outside should withstand this cold snap. But, that is simply because I have yet to plant some of my zone pushing experiments in the ground. I think some zone pushers are unfortunately going to have a lot of damage to their plants depending on where they live.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: How to Sprout Pouteria spp.
« on: December 16, 2022, 11:10:54 AM »
Glad that worked for you. There has been many other seeds with that hard seed coat I tried to take off but ended up smashing them in the process.
One of the coupeia edulis seeds I tried to crack but ended up killing it. At least you can eat the seed...call me crazy, but I tried it and it was pretty good.

I used a small, very finely toothed saw (normally used for model making and very fine woodworking) to carefully cut through the hard shell. I had a feeling that, like you, I would smash the seed if I tried to actually crack the seed coat.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: How to Sprout Pouteria spp.
« on: December 16, 2022, 09:48:52 AM »
This is the trick to speed up germination rates too.
Cinnamon apple took a year for me but 2 weeks for someone else after they removed the seed coat.

Similar story for me. I had my cinnamon apple seeds germinating for about a month with no results. I was worried about losing them (as I am with all my seeds), so I dug them out of their seed starting trays and made cuts to their hard coverings. Germination was very quick, probably only a couple of weeks, after that. 100% germination rate after that little trick.

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I have a copy of Fruit in Brazil available for sale if anyone is interested.

Fruit in Brazil was written by Helena Tassara with photographs by Silvestre Silva and published in 1996 by Empresa das Artes Projetos e Edições Artísticas Ltda. in São Paolo, Brazil. It is a hardcover with dust jacket that measures 9.25x11.5 in. (235x293 mm.) with 236 pages. The ISBN-10/ISBN-13 numbers are 8585628200/9788585628208. The text is in English and is fully illustrated by many large, exquisite color photographs. There is a Portuguese edition of this title that is much more commonly available than this English edition. Photographs of the table of contents and a couple of pages will give you an idea of the book's contents and how they are arranged.

This book is in overall good condition. The dust jacket has some rubbing and scratches to the surface and some edgewear, including a very light stain at the bottom edge of the rear cover, light creasing at the head and base of the spine, and very small, 1/4" long tears at the base of the spine, but the dust jacket has no other major damage. The hardcover boards have light bumping along the edges but no tears, stains, or other major damage. The binding is strong and intact. The interior is unmarked with no writing, highlighting, or underlining and has no tears, dog-eared pages, stains, mold, or any major damage. The page edges have no remainder mark, foxing, stains, or any major damage.

The price for this book is $50.

USPS Media Mail shipping included in the price. I will consider shipping it internationally if there is no interest among any American buyers with the international shipping cost to be covered by the buyer, but the book is rather heavy and shipping from the United States overseas would likely be fairly expensive.

I only accept PayPal.

This book will be securely packed in a box and promptly shipped once payment is received with a tracking number provided after it is shipped.

I only have one copy, so it is first come, first served.

       

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Plinia rivularis
« on: December 11, 2022, 01:03:48 AM »
bump, anyone got this to fruit in US?

I think Adam (Flying Fox Fruits) has. I seem to remember a video he posted mentioning his rivularis plants. I could be mistaken; he has a lot of plants and has posted a lot of videos about them.

Unfortunately, my plants are still too small. They are several years away from fruiting.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: tropical.theferns.info down?
« on: December 09, 2022, 05:37:14 PM »
It's been down before. I noticed that a large number of new plant entries appeared on the site after the last time they were down. I'm also not getting any sort of alert about the website being unavailable; I just get a blank screen when I go to their homepage. I'm hoping they're just doing another website update and will be back up very soon. I agree that it is an excellent resource and one that we are very lucky to have.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherimoya Bluing Inside
« on: December 09, 2022, 03:34:13 PM »
Its special flavor adding mold like blue cheese.  Yum...

The growth on the skin under the coin is from cold and wet weather I think.  I noticed late season fruit gets fungal damage during wet winter.

Blue cheese = delicious

Blue cherimoya = disgusting

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: How to NOT advertise fruit
« on: December 09, 2022, 03:30:11 PM »
Honeys must be a new persimmon brand being carried by Publix. I purchased a bag earlier this week, the day before gnappi's post. However, mine were all soft and properly ripened. They truly were ready to eat, good quality Hachiya persimmons. So were the other bags at my Publix.

I agree with gnappi that this is not a good idea but for a completely different reason. Ripe persimmons are very fragile. Nearly all of them had damage of some sort. Whereas the unripened ones I bought earlier in the fall are in excellent shape, though some of them are still not ready to eat. I like the basic premise of what the Honeys brand is trying to do. Perhaps if they packaged these persimmons in clamshell containers with individual compartments, to prevent crushing, bumping, bruising, etc., then I would be completely on board with what they're selling.

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I wish my local grocery stores had such a great selection of interesting citrus. I've seen Murcott tangerines for sale before; they are sold under the name Honey Tangerine. But, I've never seen yuzus, kishu mandarins, satsumas, or any type of pomelo other than Chandler for sale. You're lucky you live near a good, specialty grocery.

Also, Murcott is not a mandarin. It is technically a type of tangor and a very old variety originally propagated from a chance seedling that sprouted in the 1910s in Florida.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: First time citrus (Beginner)
« on: November 22, 2022, 11:55:48 PM »
A normal potting mix works well. Miracle grow potting soil for instance. It's mostly peat and perlite but pre mixed. This would work well but I'd sprinkle a little sand in it if available. Like 5% sand or something. It doesn't need any special soil though prefers a little more drainage than average.

Miracle Gro used to be a very good potting mix. But, it has really declined in quality since 2020. Given the finicky nature of citrus roots, I would not advise planting citrus in Miracle Gro. The ones I've potted in it since 2020 have not grown and thrived like ones I potted pre-2020.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: The "Cerrado Curse"
« on: November 17, 2022, 05:59:18 PM »
I have two Ziziphus joazeiro plants that I started from seed in the late spring/early summer of 2021. They made it through the winter of 2021 with flying colors. I resisted the urge to water them. Now, they are going into their second winter. I keep them in clay pots with a soil mixture that could generously be described as terrible, comprised of used potting soil, sand, slightly larger grit, and a small amount of poor quality yard dirt. They are still quite small, but they more than doubled in height over the summer after I up-potted them into larger clay pots. I certainly hope to be able to keep them alive long term. So far, I'm seeing success with this Cerrado species.

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Thanks to the both of you for the positive feedback. I want people to be satisfied with their plants and try to do my best to make sure they are.

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Brian has button quail in his greenhouse. I don't think I've seen him post any complaints about his quail. As Janet stated, quail are not destructive birds like chickens.

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Unless I'm mistaken, fresh fruit from Hawaii cannot be shipped to the mainland United States due to a fruit fly quarantine. So, you would have to see what sells well in Hawaii or what people want there but currently can't get. You could also sell something that could be processed so that it can be shipped to the US. You would probably have to partner with or become a supplier to a company already in that field. Macadamia nuts might fall into that category, if the major processors buy from independent growers. Hawaii's Department of Agriculture would be the agency to advise you about that.

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I will add Kadsura to Jaboticaba45's list. Even just a couple of years ago, when I started growing it, there was almost nothing online about it. Now, there is an effort to push it as a new specialty fruit.


I was reading about kadsura and daguetia recently and they sounds interesting but it looks like from the pictures there is hardly any flesh?  Have you tried it?

And has anybody actually tried yangmei fruit?
Kadsura has very little flesh to seed ratio. I was able to read another collectors take on the fruits and he said it was just more ornamental the edible. But again, I and the whole community would like to wait more until the jury is out. Especially since it was only one person.
Seems cool that I could just plant them outside here. Even if it is more ornamental.

several people have had yangmei fruit. And it seems to be decent.
I talked with someone who had some but they said it was good, but had some bitterness? Or something like that I forgot.
It has to be a good fruit given that China's production acreage is triple our apple production. The hype this fruit has recieved the last few years is amazing.

No, my plants have not fruited, yet. But, it is a fruit I am very excited about. All the writings and video reviews I've read about Kadsura heterclita and Kadsura coccinea indicate that they are very delicious. Jared, the Weird Explorer, likened it to lavender mixed with citrus, and his was overripe and turning brown. Another reviewer described it as a mixture of lychee and mangosteen; his was not overripe. The flesh-to-seed ratio does seem to vary, but it looks better than many jaboticaba varieties I've seen going for big money on eBay. It may never become a commercially successful fruit, but it looks like it might be a winner for home growers.

The person whose review you read may have been talking about Kadsura japonica, which, while the fruit is edible, is a more commonly used as an ornamental plant and has been planted in the US since at least the 1940s (there are examples planted by E. A. McIlhenny at Jungle Gardens on Avery Island, Louisiana that have been there since before 1945). Kadsura heterclita and Kadsura coccinea are grown for their fruit in their native Southeast Asia and are apparently very recent introductions to the US.

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My plants came in the mail today :) they were a week late and I was worried they were confiscated but they arrived in California safe and sound thanks to the great packaging. Thank you!

I'm sorry they took so long to arrive. I try my best to pack them to withstand what the US Postal Service dishes out, and I'm glad that this time, thankfully, they made it through their "careful" handling with no damage. Thank you for your purchase.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Salak first flowers, palm city FL
« on: November 10, 2022, 03:38:50 PM »
This topic should be moved to the Tropical Fruit Discussion section, instead of being in the Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade section.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: When to take plants in?
« on: November 10, 2022, 12:46:17 PM »
All your young plants should be brought in. I err on the side of caution with all of my plants. Even my citrus are not allowed to experience weather below 40°F. I want my plants to grow, mature, and fruit as quickly as possible. Even if temperatures in the 30s would not kill a plant, it could cause it to go dormant. Whereas, my jaboticabas have fresh new growth flushing out even after I've moved them inside for the winter.

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