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No one has fruited a macrantha here.   The purpose of the grafted trees is just for propagation since there are no seeds available. 

Also here is an updated photo or two of the whole orchard.   Which includes about

 30 durian.
2 mammea apple
2 guyas (Spanish line)
1 longkong
1 matoa
1 green sapote
1 mamey sapote
2 Jamaican lilikoi (growing on the big ohia tree)
2 lychee.
2 rambutan
2 longan (red and biew kiew)
2 papaya
1 abiu






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Hello friend.   I am not in hamaukua but Iím still on big island in kona.  Ironically I just ordered about 30 varieties of mango from Florida and Iím gonna attempt to make that work here in kona.    So ID love to talk with you about what you were growing.    Additionally I have gone to great great lengths to plant over 30 durian trees on my land here.   So Iím in the trenches on this new durian growing like you all.  I also have been to Asia twice specifically on durian trips. Hahaha.  So I feel you.    Need to pick my own. 

Hereís my durian orchard now.




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Florida mangos in Hawaii. All good??
« on: February 25, 2022, 05:58:07 PM »
Yeah I got them all from Lara farms.    I was shocked that shipping wasnít more.   Bout $500 in total for 27 trees

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Florida mangos in Hawaii. All good??
« on: February 24, 2022, 08:45:55 PM »
Phase 1 is complete.   All grafted mangos have arrived and been transplanted to 3 gallon pots.    26 of them so far. 












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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lara farms = awesome
« on: February 24, 2022, 08:44:37 PM »
Mangos arrived today. 26 of em.  Amazing packaging.   All in great condition. 














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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Lara farms = awesome
« on: February 23, 2022, 11:46:38 PM »
Anyone looking for awesome grafted fruit trees check out Lara farms.  Super reasonable and shipping is also very reasonable.   And I live in Hawaii!!!   I just got 6 jackfruit trees today.  They arrived packaged incredibly well.  Healthy and happy.    Shipping was like $138 for these 6 trees to Hawaii.  Top tropicals was literally $679 to ship 6 jackfruits.  No exaggeration.   What a joke.   Anyways these jackfruits arrived today After almost a week of shipping to get here.   I was shocked how good they looked.  Potting soil was still wet inside packaging. 🤯.   

I also ordered 25 grafted mango trees from them.   (Arriving tomorrow) Will post pics of how they arrive.   But Julian over there is doing a great job.   Check em out.   











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They are awesome.  I actually bought almost 30 mango trees from them.  Unfortunately they are out of stock of those 2.   

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Does anyone have a grafted tree theyíd be willing to sell and ship to Hawaii?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Florida mangos in Hawaii. All good??
« on: February 21, 2022, 05:42:53 PM »
I hear you there oscar. I also wondered/assumed the same thing.   Honestly it really is an experiment.   I donít know if itíll work or not and even when/if they do fruit how theyíll taste.    But Iím
Committed to the process and will see it through.  Not only for myself but for future generations of mango growers here in Hawaii.    Iíll probably plant about 30 varieties.   20 Florida and 10 Hawaii types.   

Iím not at all saying Hawaii mangos are no good. Mapalehu is amazing. Pirie is unreal.   Rapoza same.    And carrie here is also one of my favorites.  Just really wanna try that orange sherbet and peach cobbler and lemon zest.  To name a few.    See how they taste here. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Florida mangos in Hawaii. All good??
« on: February 18, 2022, 02:42:31 AM »
You guys are all correct.   I am going to trial about 10-12 Florida varieties at my place here in kona.   Luckily the mango experiment will be faster to yield results than the durian experiment.    So Iíll have some answers for us all I about 4-5 years I believe.   

But yes here on big island the standard mangoes we see are Keitt. Rapoza. Haden.  Tommy Atkins.   Then we less frequently see some Carrie.   Mapalehu.  Golden glow.   Pirie (which is incredible).  Some nam doc Mai.  Etc etc.  few others. But not many.     You absolutely never see a lemon zest.  Or sweet tart. Or peach cobbler.   Or cotton candy.   Good lord those all sound so yummy.    Very good job to whoever named these.   Lol.  Itís working. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Florida mangos in Hawaii. All good??
« on: February 17, 2022, 10:34:54 AM »
Hi guys.  This may sound like a silly question.  Since more than likely anything that fruits in Florida will probably fruit in Hawaii just as easily.   But I stumbled across Lara farms website recently (super cool and very fair prices I might say).  And they have like 75 varieties of grafted mangos for sale.    Iíve always been so curious why Florida has all the coolest types of mangos.   Peach cobbler and lemon zest and fruit punch and all these crazy names that truly sound amazing. But In Hawaii you really only find 7-10 varieties that are sold here.   Weird.   

Long story short I wanna buy a bunch of these grafted trees and plant at my other place in kona.  Just wondering if there is anything Iím missingÖ.  Will they grow and fruit here for me as well as they do in Florida??   

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Those durians along the back (pohakulani seedlings) were all planted less than 4 months ago.  They were seedlings from a fruit I ate in 2020 sometime

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 22 brix jakfruit cleaned and ready
« on: February 07, 2022, 02:24:58 AM »
How on earth does a jeff in Hawaii get ahold of this tree?  I need this.

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So here is a shot of the durian orchard today.   You can see the shade cages over all the grafted durians above the rock wall. 

Below the rock wall I have my row of pohakulani seedlings.   In wire cages.  But no shade.   This area is accessible to pigs so thatís why these have the cages.    The last picture is a close up of one of the pohakulani trees.  They seem to be growing fine despite no shade cloth. 

All the trees have a little sprinkler emitter that waters them for 30 min in the am and 30 min the afternoon. 








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Thank you Peter.  I appreciate that.  Iím 36 so I think I can weather the storm of waiting time and see this thing into fruition.  About the shade cages That is very very interesting.  Cause yeah I have zero wind here.  Hmmmm. Would be nice to not use the shade cages.   Thatís for sure.    I actually donít have shade cages over my pohakulani seedlings.  They seem pretty tough.  But they are also planted semi close to some tall rose apples also my black thorn seedling is not covered since itís already 8-9í tall. 

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Itís most definitely a very very expensive and very very time consuming experiment and itís crazy to think that after all this and 10-15 years of waiting it might not even work.  Haha.    Iím pushing the boundries and limits for sure.   With such a wide variety It will be very cool to see if if some of them do fruit and this telling us what varieties might be adaptive for higher elevations and this type of weather.   It seems crazy sometimesÖ. But far less crazy then people in Florida trying to fruit a durian.   (No offense if thatís any of you).  Haha

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Aloha happy Hana.   The project has evolved considerably and most the trees are plugging along.  Slow growing.  The final planting ended up in 4 rows.   

Bottom row is 8 pohakulani seedlings.    This is my favorite Hawaiian grown durian and one Iím willing to gamble on seedlings with.  So fingers crossed and we will see how these turn out.

Row 2 is:  durio kutagensis seedling
-durian (simas)
-durio graveolens seedling
-durian (mdur 88)
-durian (mdur 88)
-durian (red prawn)
-durian (monthong)
-durian (pohakulani) grafted

Row 3:  durian (suluk Sionggong)
-durian (Lihoha)
-durian (Kilauea)
-durian (kajmak)
-durian (ganyao)
-durian (chanee)
-durian (d168)
-durian (red prawn)

Row 4:  -durio (macrantha grafted)
-durian (red prawn)
-durian (d168)
-durian (black thorn seedling)
-durian (Jamuk/D99)
-durian (Jamuk/D99)
-durian (choice chanee)
-durian (d145)

All the trees have shade cages and wrapped on bottom with clear plastic wrap.    They are all on a small drip emitter sprinkler.   All have been planted in small mounds and have lots of mulch all around them.   




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are you shipping to hawaii?

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Raul this information is super helpful. thank you!  i was actually going to plant the trees tomorrow in my orchard.  My intention was to plant 2 trees at 25' spacing (8 meters) 

Is it your opinion that each tree is self fertile? if so then i am hoping i'll be fine with 2 trees planted.  if not i can plant 3... 

How big do these trees get?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Plinia clausa (Anihuayo)
« on: March 18, 2021, 03:40:18 AM »
Does anyone have an approximate size that this tree gets to?  i'm trying to decide where to plant it

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so it sounds like the oliviformus is perhaps superior to bujugata?  (which sounds like the more common variety grown and called spanish lime)   

That above picture with the Lychee looks incredible..  that flesh is deep orange and those fruits are big!  hoping that's what we can expect out of these, i'm planning on planting two trees so i sure hope they are bisex and not a couple of males.   that would be pretty rough

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Calling in the experts here.    When I research these trees they both seem to be loosely called the same thing.  Spanish lime, quenip. Mamoncillo. etc etc.   

I bought seeds a few years ago from
Someone on the forum and I believe they were melicoccus oliviformus.   I remember the description saying something about them being different than than normal Spanish lime.  Superior in some way but I donít recall why or how.   Does anyone grow this tree?   I have 4-5 big healthy trees in pots and Iím wondering how many I need to plant in order to get a good fruit set and how big they get?

Also wondering the difference between these two trees!  Help.

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how do i get a seedless lychee tree in hawaii?  that's the question

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Ziman pink jackfruit leaves
« on: October 22, 2020, 05:47:20 AM »
Thanks pahoajo.  Any pics?   Does the flesh have a normal yellow color?  Or is it pink ish?  Trying to figure out the reason behind the name.  Also
Is the flesh more crunchy or soft?   Thanks!

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