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Hey guys.   Yes this mango collection has grown substantially and they are planted on my other farm in kona at 800’.  Great location for mango trees. Here’s the updated list of what’s planted as of today.   I think this might be the most diverse mango planting in Hawaii.   Would love to know if anyone else has this sort of a collection planted out.

Lemon meringue
Ott
Dot
Alampur beneshan
Kent
Wise
Peach cobbler
Val Carrie
Jakarta
Sugarloaf
Malika
Lil gem
Nam doc Mai
Pope
Kurashige
Fairchild. 

Bottom bench row along fence (23)
Lemon zest
Harvest moon
Triple sec (Seacrest)
Fruit punch
Edward
O-15
Super Alphonso (India)
Alphonso
Kesar
Chok Anon
CAC
Rapoza
Juicy peach
Sunrise
Madmam Francis
Phoenix
Momi K
Haden
Keitt
Ewais
Mystery lost tag (maybe ataulfo)
Raw honey
Maha Chanok

Row 1 of mangos (along road) (22)
Valencia pride
Sweet tart
Orange sherbet
Lemon zest
Coconut cream
Cotton candy
Pineapple pleasure
Rapoza
Golden glow
Mapalehu
Brooks late
Lancetilla
Ceci love
Carrie
Pickering
Piña colada
Crème brûlée
Tymour
Cabeza
Ice cream
Peach cobbler
Juicy peach

Row 2 of mangos  (20)
Glenn
Fairchild
R2E2
M-4
Florigon
Fruit cocktail
Gary
Sugarloaf
Cushman
Venus
Duncan
Cogshall
Julie
Juliette
Nam doc Mai #4
Okrung
Angie
Rosigold
Pirie
White pirie

Row 3 of mangos (15)
Zillate
Orange sherbet
Orange essence
Pickering
Southern blush
Gold nugget
Butter cream
Manalita
Lemon meringue
Kook lom Krong
Ugly Betty
Bennett Alphonso
Alampur beneshan/imam passand
Manzanillo
Julie

Row 4 (4)
Ah ping   
Vallenato
Mystery Indian mango from Ken love
(Ice cream)
 
Row 5 (3)
Smith
Spirit of 76
Ceci love

Aloha friends. 

For years and years I have been on this forum and seen people post about all these wonderful sounding zill varieties of mangos and left to wonder why in the world no one in Hawaii is planting these mangos. 

As I ask around to all the main fruit people I know in Hawaii it seems that every farm basically circulates about 10-20 of the regularly seen mangos in Hawaii. (And don’t get me wrong these mangos are amazing) However I wanted to branch out and do some experimenting now that I have a prime piece of property for mangos and see what all the hype is about.   So I’ve been importing grafted mangos over the last year or two and as of last week I have planted about 65 varieties.    With 10 or so more that I need to plant!   I wanted to share this list with all of you and include you on the journey.   I don’t know what mangos will be successful here or not and to be honest I’m ok with the outcome.  There is only one way to find out and I’m doing it.

My mangos are planted every 20’ and I plan to prune and guide these trees through their life to be great shaped, Low canopy and highly productive.  My inspiration to undertake this project was two summers ago attending the “kona mango festival” on the big island of Hawaii (where I live) and being so disappointed with the complete lack of mangos here and flavors.   Seems like in Hawaii everyone grows Haden. Keitt.  R2e2.  And 3-4 other classics.    We’ll buckle up kona cause I’m about to introduce you to some new flavors that nobody in Hawaii has ever seen the likes of.   To you guys in Florida this will probably seem like a normal list of mangos you might have in your orchard.  But in Hawaii I dare say this will be the most diverse mango collection planted on my island.  (If someone knows of another person on big island with an extensive collection pls let me know.   I’d love to collaborate).  Here is the list so far.    Any comments or tips are appreciated and any other must haves that I’m missing please help me find them.    Hoping to have 100 varieties when it’s all said and done. 

Behold the list.

Valencia pride
Sweet tart
Orange sherbet
Lemon zest
Coconut cream
Cotton candy
Pineapple pleasure
Rapoza
Golden glow
Mapalehu
Brooks late
Lancetilla
Ceci love
Carrie
Pickering
Piña colada
Crème brûlée
Tymour
Cabeza
Ice cream
Peach cobbler
Juicy peach

Alampur beneshan/imam passand
Fairchild
R2E2
M-4
Florigon
Fruit cocktail
Gary
Sugarloaf
Cushman
Venus
Duncan
Cogshall
Julie
Juliette
Nam doc Mai #4
Okrung
Angie
Rosigold
(Pirie)
White pirie

Row 3
Zillate
Glenn
Southern blush
Orange essence

Lemon zest
Harvest moon
Triple sec
Fruit punch
Edward
O-15
Super Alphonso
Alphonso
Kesar
Chockanon
CAC
Rapoza
Juicy peach
Sunrise
Madmam Francis
Phoenix
Momi K
Haden
Keitt
Ewais
Mystery lost tag (maybe ataulfo)
Raw honey
Maha Chanok

Yeah I got them all from Lara farms.    I was shocked that shipping wasn’t more.   Bout $500 in total for 27 trees

Mangos arrived today. 26 of em.  Amazing packaging.   All in great condition. 

They are awesome.  I actually bought almost 30 mango trees from them.  Unfortunately they are out of stock of those 2.   

I hear you there oscar. I also wondered/assumed the same thing.   Honestly it really is an experiment.   I don’t know if it’ll work or not and even when/if they do fruit how they’ll taste.    But I’m
Committed to the process and will see it through.  Not only for myself but for future generations of mango growers here in Hawaii.    I’ll probably plant about 30 varieties.   20 Florida and 10 Hawaii types.   

I’m not at all saying Hawaii mangos are no good. Mapalehu is amazing. Pirie is unreal.   Rapoza same.    And carrie here is also one of my favorites.  Just really wanna try that orange sherbet and peach cobbler and lemon zest.  To name a few.    See how they taste here. 

Hi guys.  This may sound like a silly question.  Since more than likely anything that fruits in Florida will probably fruit in Hawaii just as easily.   But I stumbled across Lara farms website recently (super cool and very fair prices I might say).  And they have like 75 varieties of grafted mangos for sale.    I’ve always been so curious why Florida has all the coolest types of mangos.   Peach cobbler and lemon zest and fruit punch and all these crazy names that truly sound amazing. But In Hawaii you really only find 7-10 varieties that are sold here.   Weird.   

Long story short I wanna buy a bunch of these grafted trees and plant at my other place in kona.  Just wondering if there is anything I’m missing….  Will they grow and fruit here for me as well as they do in Florida??   

How on earth does a jeff in Hawaii get ahold of this tree?  I need this.

Thank you Peter.  I appreciate that.  I’m 36 so I think I can weather the storm of waiting time and see this thing into fruition.  About the shade cages That is very very interesting.  Cause yeah I have zero wind here.  Hmmmm. Would be nice to not use the shade cages.   That’s for sure.    I actually don’t have shade cages over my pohakulani seedlings.  They seem pretty tough.  But they are also planted semi close to some tall rose apples also my black thorn seedling is not covered since it’s already 8-9’ tall. 

Aloha happy Hana.   The project has evolved considerably and most the trees are plugging along.  Slow growing.  The final planting ended up in 4 rows.   

Bottom row is 8 pohakulani seedlings.    This is my favorite Hawaiian grown durian and one I’m willing to gamble on seedlings with.  So fingers crossed and we will see how these turn out.

Row 2 is:  durio kutagensis seedling
-durian (simas)
-durio graveolens seedling
-durian (mdur 88)
-durian (mdur 88)
-durian (red prawn)
-durian (monthong)
-durian (pohakulani) grafted

Row 3:  durian (suluk Sionggong)
-durian (Lihoha)
-durian (Kilauea)
-durian (kajmak)
-durian (ganyao)
-durian (chanee)
-durian (d168)
-durian (red prawn)

Row 4:  -durio (macrantha grafted)
-durian (red prawn)
-durian (d168)
-durian (black thorn seedling)
-durian (Jamuk/D99)
-durian (Jamuk/D99)
-durian (choice chanee)
-durian (d145)

All the trees have shade cages and wrapped on bottom with clear plastic wrap.    They are all on a small drip emitter sprinkler.   All have been planted in small mounds and have lots of mulch all around them.   

Raul this information is super helpful. thank you!  i was actually going to plant the trees tomorrow in my orchard.  My intention was to plant 2 trees at 25' spacing (8 meters) 

Is it your opinion that each tree is self fertile? if so then i am hoping i'll be fine with 2 trees planted.  if not i can plant 3... 

How big do these trees get?

so it sounds like the oliviformus is perhaps superior to bujugata?  (which sounds like the more common variety grown and called spanish lime)   

That above picture with the Lychee looks incredible..  that flesh is deep orange and those fruits are big!  hoping that's what we can expect out of these, i'm planning on planting two trees so i sure hope they are bisex and not a couple of males.   that would be pretty rough