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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: is this front yard jackfruit fair game?
« on: February 05, 2025, 09:40:43 PM »
People take our passion fruits and the occasional mango overhanging a sidewalk. I tell them, "take 1, only 1".  And I teach people how to pick passion fruit and mangoes when they are ripe. Hate it when they get wasted, but those pickers probably are less likely to try again. I like the idea of sharing fruit and fruit knowledge. Have given away many passion vines to neighbors and fruit thieves. I figure if they grow their own, less likely to take mine. Being nice also makes it weirder for some people to steal. Funny thing is, it is never or rarely the poor taking fruit. It's the old guy and his wife driving a Mercedes or BMW that cusses me out when I ask, "what's up?" as they are stabbing fruits. Entitled, rich, angry fruit thieves are the worst.

Far Side rocks Epi!

Rob do you have trees planted in your front yard and do you have a front yard fence?  I always said I would put in a fence later.  But the problem is, now these trees are getting big and a fence might not be feasible at this point.  I was trying to look at the survey for my house and figure out exactly what the easement is (to make sure it doesn't go right through the tree's trunks) but it doesn't seem clear.  I have a large easement and of course I planted in every available spot, up to the street.  I have mango, avocado and coconut in the front yard.  These are prime targets for fruit thieves I've heard.  I also have starfruit, jackfruit, black sapote and mulberry, and will plant white sapote in the future.  Hopefully these fruits are less desirable to thieves.  Right now only the starfruit is fruiting and nobody has touched it but it's far from the road.  If anyone takes my first jackfruit I will be sad.  And of course, that jackfruit is NOT fair game!  The easement is for the utility companies, it's not a free for all.  Asking the owner and offering to buy one is the only way.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Snakes and Food Forests
« on: February 05, 2025, 02:11:13 PM »
thanks rob.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Star Fruit Variety Box Tasting Notes
« on: February 05, 2025, 11:26:51 AM »
How do you compare these to Kari?  I planted a Sri Kembangan but so far the fruit isn't as good as the Kari I've been buying from a farm (this is the first year my tree fruited).  I haven't gotten to eat any of the perfectly formed big ones yet so I'm still hopeful.  I'm still trying to figure out when to pick them, if anyone has tips let me know.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Snakes and Food Forests
« on: February 05, 2025, 11:13:16 AM »
I've never seen a tick in Miami Dade in 25 years. Found 1 on me after hiking west of Ocala (Central Florida). Used to get them all the time in Kentucky.

Rob do you go hiking here in Miami Dade?  I want to explore some of the tropical hardwood hammocks here in the future but the ticks are in the back of my mind.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Snakes and Food Forests
« on: February 04, 2025, 09:30:20 AM »
If you're worried about snakes, don't go outside in flip flops/barefoot, wear boots.  I've seen a few snakes in my yard but it's no big deal.  I'm more worried about ticks.  I'm originally from New England where ticks are a serious problem.  I've never seen a tick on me here in Miami Florida so I don't know how bad the situation is here.

It makes sense to cover up when working outside.  I got a rash on my arm from a bug bite here.  It was a fungal rash and forum member spaugh helped me identify it and recommended a cream.  It took a year of applying the cream diligently to get rid of the rash and I'm 100% healed now from it.  I feel like that was once in a lifetime bad luck so I still go outside in T-shirts, etc, but if you're worried wear long sleeves/pants and boots.  The hazards created by man are a lot more dangerous than those in nature, but you should still take precautions and don't take crazy risks like those people taking selfies at the edge of a cliff.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Concrete + jackfruit?
« on: February 04, 2025, 09:20:21 AM »
I think you should try to wash off and remove as much of the concrete as possible.  These trees are very resilient.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Comparison of Red Jackfruits
« on: February 02, 2025, 09:20:06 PM »
Jackfruit is the future i think. Mango only produces if theres no rain in the winter now. The only problem with jackfruit that i see is that its annoying to open/clean (most varieties) and its also dangerous to harvest themif they are high up in the canopy. I personally planted a red morning jackfruit from Excalibur but it never grew big, just stayed stunted thr size of a 1 gal nursery tree

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Concrete + jackfruit?
« on: February 02, 2025, 09:11:27 PM »
It will probably be ok, i have a lot of concrete (i plan on removing soon, hate it) and have many trees planted close to it that are thriving. The soil here is very high in limestone which makes up a big portion of concrete and trees are growing well. I would rinse off all the concrete you see. Why would they do that though? Trespassing on your property to wash their tools? That’s terrible.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What Fruits do you regret not planting?
« on: January 29, 2025, 06:35:53 PM »
Thank you!! Excited for white sapote season  :)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What Fruits do you regret not planting?
« on: January 29, 2025, 04:15:38 PM »
Hi, thank you for the tips.  One other variety I've seen mentioned here is Younghans.  It seems like a lot of people here like it.  I totally understand what you mean about wanting to get things in the ground ASAP.  I'm literally having the first fruits this year from trees I planted 5 years ago.  Multigrafting is a great idea too.

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Where are forum members sourcing their Nishikawa trees?  I don't see Nishikawa for sale on Julian's website, even though it was in his variety box?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What Fruits do you regret not planting?
« on: January 29, 2025, 10:12:08 AM »
Right now, white sapote. Fruitful Trees youtube makes it seem like the best fruit in the world. I have never tasted it. Trees are hard to find and small. First i need to remove a ton of concrete from my yard (not an easy task), meanwhile waiting for lara farms to have the 1 gallon tree in stock. It might be 6-8 years before i can taste my own white Sapote fruit at this point, lol. I plan to go to fruit and spice park to try theirs.

About 5 years ago i had a coconut obsession. I felt so dehydrated at the time. Now im finally getting the first coconuts from some of the palms I planted.

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Galatians read the study and ill attach his post. Basically the amount of annonacin in atemoya is very low compared to paw paw. Custard apple i have not seen a measurement for but the amount is probably similar to atemoya.

Har also pointed out that the people in the study were also consuming the seeds by blending them into smoothies and were drinking the bark and leaves via teas. These parts of the fruit have much more annonacin than the flesh.

The island the people lived on was heavily sprayed with agri chemicals. The annona consumption might not have even been the factor

Finally, all plants have toxins to some extent. Oxalates, phytates, etc. yet plants are the healthiest foods on the planet. This is probably just another case of trying to demonize plants.

I have a san pablo red custard apple tree that currently doesnt set fruit. For a lot of these tropical fruit trees, 2 trees are needed for pollination. Based on what im saying above, i feel comfortable planting a second custard apple tree. I may or may not freeze the fruit, but i will probably eat plenty when its in season..sure, the annonacin is still in the back of my mind, but the hazards produced by humans are a lot more dangerous than what is found in nature, in my opinion



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Black Sapote Flavor Test (Lara Farms)
« on: January 13, 2025, 08:56:23 PM »
The best black sapote is Matt’s Giant Black Sapote, hopefully Julian will start propagating it.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Swimming pool container for fruit trees
« on: January 13, 2025, 08:21:01 PM »
K Rimes, the entire patio would be removed, the walls would be taken down by 2 ft except the wall next to the house which will stay (this could be a benefit since it will stop tree roots from going near the foundation of the house), and the bottom would be removed, and i would have them take away any concrete they break off.

Its the partial demolition from this diagram:


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Swimming pool container for fruit trees
« on: January 13, 2025, 09:17:22 AM »
K Rimes, why do you feel it wont drain properly or become anaerobic? I was planning on making sure the bottom was completely broken up and removed if i go this route. Thank you.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Swimming pool container for fruit trees
« on: January 12, 2025, 10:12:14 PM »
I totally understand your perspective. I found an old post from Cookie Monster that says planting near concrete can cause nutrient deficiency (this hasn't been my experience personally but my trees are mostly less than 10 years old). Also, natural limestone and concrete are probably quite different.

https://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=8622.0

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Swimming pool container for fruit trees
« on: January 12, 2025, 09:27:37 PM »
Galatians and Coconut Cream,
Why do you guys recommend to fully remove the pool when there is a partial removal approach that would break down the sides by 2 feet and break up the bottom and remove the surrounding patio, but not fully remove the whole shell? I would not let them leave the concrete they did take out inside the pool shell, i would have them take it away. I know KRimes mentioned that the area would hold water differently, but I'm not sure how concerning that is. The partial approach would give me the same planting area and would create less dust since they are busting up less concrete. I have many trees planted right next to concrete with no issues. Just want to make sure i consider all options. Thank you so much!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Swimming pool container for fruit trees
« on: January 12, 2025, 12:04:38 PM »
Hello everyone, i was continuing to research and i came across Dexpan, which is something they inject into the concrete and it expands and breaks it up. They advertise no dust. Wondering if this is something i should look into?

The question is, would this be toxic to the soil?

The main ingredient is quicklime.

Composition:

Calcium oxide: 60–100%
Silica, amorphous: 5–10%
Iron (III) oxide: 1–5%
Aluminum oxide: 1–5%

https://www.dexpan.com/

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Canistel Flavor Test (Lara Farms)
« on: January 11, 2025, 09:07:00 PM »
I have the ross from lara farms at my house. The tree is tall and slender, kind of regret giving it the full spacing i give for other trees. It grows pretty slowly compared to other trees. The fruit is amazing but it must be tree ripened to get the amazing pumpkin cheesecake taste. You have to go and check for ripe soft fruit 2x per day because once they fall, they break.  It does not freeze well, for me it tasted bland after freezing. Also it produced abundantly for me as a single tree. I do not know if it cross pollinates with mamey which there are multiple in my neighborhood. It bears fruit from October to December. I have tasted other canistels like bruce and trompo but ross is way better from my perspective

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Swimming pool container for fruit trees
« on: January 11, 2025, 08:55:22 PM »
While they are demolishing the pool, I would think about ripping out the side patio and half the driveway too. You could squeeze at least 20 - 30 more trees there  ;D

100%. I hate all this concrete. Would never do this myself to this tropical soil.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Swimming pool container for fruit trees
« on: January 11, 2025, 08:52:30 PM »
Hey. Where did you get the 50 5/8 measurement from?

I don't think the below ground garden would work here because of the high water table (could be wrong of course).

Daintree please be glad you didn’t buy a house with a swimming pool. I was 26 years old when i bought my house and had no idea what i was getting into maintaining this artificial body of water. Its better to just have raw land without all these concrete “improvements”

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Swimming pool container for fruit trees
« on: January 11, 2025, 11:49:59 AM »
Thank you so much for your reply, it helps a lot.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Swimming pool container for fruit trees
« on: January 10, 2025, 11:11:27 PM »
Hey galatians, thank you for your help, your replies are always so helpful. You're totally right, i could never afford more land to plant on, and my land is ideal for planting trees (no flood zone, former pine rockland). Sorry if this sounds like a paranoid/silly question, but what happens to all of the dust after the demolition? Would it stay on my property and be kicked up again every time my lawn guy uses the leaf blower, etc?


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Swimming pool container for fruit trees
« on: January 10, 2025, 09:04:22 PM »
Yes unfortunately i do have lung issues now from inhaling the chlorine fumes from my pool when my pool guy was treating it. :(

Im glad you didn't get any dust on your property.

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