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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Bulk bay leaf trees?
« on: March 21, 2025, 09:32:07 PM »
A buddy of mine is looking to buy bulk bay leaf trees for his nursery. I myself might be interested as well if the price is right. Is there anyone here or know of anyone that mass produces them for wholesale? Especially anyone in the FL panhandle or otherwise in the state or nearby states. However would consider mail order too.

Thanks for any help! DG

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Anyone know what this fruit is in Northern Florida?
« on: March 18, 2025, 07:32:34 AM »
After seeing some pics that plant os definitely a crab apple. Another tree I found that I haven't seen leaf out yet is definitely a type of hawthorn based on the kinda contorted look and the branching starting out like little spikes. I'm gonna monitor it and eventually get thr fruits off of it. I'll also get pics of that tree and another type of hawthorn I've found near the swamp. That one is definitely a hawthorn or mayhaw too. Heavily lobed leaves and such.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Anyone know what this fruit is in Northern Florida?
« on: March 17, 2025, 09:37:39 PM »
I might be able to post seed pics next fall. I did plant some seeds of the suspected malus species. Only got two sprouts but lost one. Maybe more will pop up eventually. Fruit was pretty sour and bitter also very hard flesh. I ate quite a few. It would be helpful to look at some pics of the inner fruit of both genus to get a better idea compared to these fruits. Seeds were in an internal capsule at the core. Probably 5-8 seeds in most. Guess similar to an apple(malus). Not sure what a hawthorn looks like inside. I know I've seen many pics of heavily lobed hawthorn and mayhaw leaves but also some not lobed but widely serrated similar to these. However looking at the fruit bottom again in the pic it does look malus. No little frills coming off the bottom. Malus may in fact be correct. I'm technically outside the recorded range of them on maps I saw on angustifolia at least. However not very far. Totally could be here.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Anyone know what this fruit is in Northern Florida?
« on: March 16, 2025, 07:41:46 AM »
I did harvest a good bit of the fruits from the original post if anyone wants some seeds.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Anyone know what this fruit is in Northern Florida?
« on: March 14, 2025, 05:36:55 AM »
Picked a bunch of them yesterday. I'll get a pic of the seeds and post it soon. Seed appears to be consistent shape with another type of hawthorn I've found here but the other type has much bigger fruit and seeds. Here's the other type. Different leaf shape but similar fruit and seed characteristics.






There's a 3rd variety I've found and possibly a 4th(need to see it leaf out and flower). The 3rd type grows right on the waters edge and the berry is also small and leaf shape is very different. Wasn't able to see them ripe though. The 2nd variety pictured here is yellow when ripe. It must be noted that the variety in the original post is not deciduous and holds leaves year round while the others do not.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Grafting questions
« on: March 13, 2025, 05:09:10 PM »
Quote from: vnomonee on March 13, 2025, 12:54:35 PM
Don't mean to hijack your thread but I am curious about what your best grafting method is for persimmon. I have some Hachiya scions in the fridge. I want to replace a jiro fuyu so I was thinking of top working it and doing bark grafts and cleft grafts? Or should I keep some of the branches and do whip and tongue? I have never tried that graft! The jiro branches are growing in an umbrella form since I weighed the branches down, so I could potentially just graft all the sticks to those branches, would just have to keep up with pruning if any jiro buds pop out. Would much rather top work the entire tree. Could also bud around the trunk and see if any will grow, then chop the upper jiro part off? I don't want too tall of a tree either would rather bring it down.

I've only ever done cleft grafts with persimmon and was successful.  However now that I'm liking the whip and tongue now I think the potential for so much more cambium connection points would be a good idea.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Anyone know what this fruit is in Northern Florida?
« on: March 13, 2025, 05:04:33 PM »
Pic of the fresh flowers




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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Grafting questions
« on: March 13, 2025, 06:05:54 AM »
Quote from: booeyschewy on March 13, 2025, 05:23:37 AM
We use cord or tape on graft site and then cover with a plastic bag for 21 days until new leaves sprout. I use a full bag mini greenhouse type thing for epicotyl grafts otherwise a smaller one just covering the scion and root stock trunk. This is in the humid tropics though

I once tried something similar to what you're describing for avocado grafts that weren't just straight sticks. I figured I'd tie down a baggie around them with the grafting tape to keep moisture in. It did seem to work just fine.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Grafting questions
« on: March 13, 2025, 06:02:10 AM »
Quote from: Galatians522 on March 12, 2025, 06:54:26 PM
Quote from: D-Grower on March 12, 2025, 02:43:11 PM
Guess it doesn't total matter but these were whip and tongue grafts. Usually do cleft but recently feel like whip and tongue can be better sometimes.

Anyone willing to sell some rolls of the real grafting tape?

I agree about the whip and tongue it is my new favorite graft even if no one else on the forum seems to be giving it much love. It is fast with high cambium contact and good success rates for me. I also like a side/veneer graft with a tongue when the scion is smaller than the stock. I pre-wrap my scions with the cheap old budding tape and then wrap the union with flagging tape. I have not covered with foil, yet.

I also took the time to make a whip graft jig which has really sped me up. It keeps the angle exactly the same and helps make smooth cuts as I build confidence. Over 2 dozen annona grafts using the jig and all seem to be pushing so far.






That's a really awesome tool you made there. I could see the advantage of that for sure. I'm gonna have to make one of those someday. I bet you have a real money making idea there.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Grafting questions
« on: March 12, 2025, 02:43:11 PM »
Guess it doesn't total matter but these were whip and tongue grafts. Usually do cleft but recently feel like whip and tongue can be better sometimes.

Anyone willing to sell some rolls of the real grafting tape?

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Grafting questions
« on: March 12, 2025, 01:25:37 PM »
Just did 5 pear grafts and 3 plum grafts. Getting into mid 70s during the day and 40s to 50s at night. Wrapped entirely with the real graft tape. No cover with foil or anything yet. With temps that high during the day and likely hotter into 80s within the next month should I foil them?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Anyone know what this fruit is in Northern Florida?
« on: March 12, 2025, 10:01:42 AM »
Berries might look larger in the pics than they are. Around the size of aronia berries or small blueberry.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Grafting questions
« on: March 12, 2025, 08:31:13 AM »
Hello whomever can answer!

I was wondering a few things about grafting things such as plums, pear, and apples, etc. When I graft especially using the cheapo plastic grafting tape not the good buddy tape I generally fully wrap the whole scion and also cover it with something to protect it from light and our day time heat. I've saw a few people recently not covering the entire scion(using real buddy tape) but only wrapping the physical grafted area. So the scion isn't fully wrapped to keep moisture in but still appear to get success. Only generally 2 buds or so above the graft. Maybe that helps not having much to loose moisture? Also not protecting it from sun or heat with something to block it such as a paper bag or aluminum foil etc. Maybe because the whole scion isn't wrapped? Or possibly if fully wrapped or that real buddy tape isn't as bad in those conditions as that plastic film wrapping? What do y'all think about this and what are your personal thoughts?

Thanks! DG

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Anyone know what this fruit is in Northern Florida?
« on: March 12, 2025, 08:20:40 AM »
This is found in Northern Florida in some areas. I'll try to get fresh pics of the flowers soon since they are blooming again but also still holding fruit at the same time. Lightly sweet to the taste. Possibly a blueberry family or viburnum species?






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Temperate Fruit Buy, Sell, & Trade / Re: Looking for low chill scions
« on: March 10, 2025, 05:54:55 AM »
Hoping to find some scions of it. Plenty of places to graft persimmon onto. American persimmon grows around here like crazy. I have planted several seedlings purposefully in the yard to graft. Just need some scions.

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Tropical Vegetables and Other Edibles - Buy, Sell, & Trade / Re: Chinese Water Chestnut plants
« on: March 06, 2025, 06:28:34 AM »
You basically grow them in fully submerged soil/muck. A kiddie pool or water holding sizable container with 3-5" soil and 1-3" of standing water over the soil. One centrally placed plant in the spring with spread out and overtake the entire container through a summer. Plants will go dormant in the fall nearing winter. Dig out all sizable corms and eat them. Really only need to peel off the outer layer of skin and they are ready to eat raw or cooked. Leave a few to replant in new containers or the same container. They've survived mid teen temps here unprotected even when the surface water completely froze. Wouldn't say they survive that further north than zone 8ish if it were longer than a day or two. They will grow good in the same muck for 2-3 seasons before they won't have whatever necessary nutrients to thrive and therefore not spread as vigorously.  So renew the soil every other season or two. Really not at all hard to grow.

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Tropical Vegetables and Other Edibles - Buy, Sell, & Trade / Re: Looking for Hatian basket vine
« on: March 03, 2025, 04:38:29 AM »
Cody cove appeared to have this available right now.

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Temperate Fruit Buy, Sell, & Trade / Re: Looking for low chill scions
« on: February 27, 2025, 05:36:40 PM »
Sent you a pm. Thank you!

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Temperate Fruit Buy, Sell, & Trade / Looking for low chill scions
« on: February 27, 2025, 06:20:33 AM »
Looking for various low chill scions before everything wakes up if it isn't too late already. Will have some cash here shortly.

Apples: Joy, Shell, Reverend Morgan, anything low chill I don't have so let me know what you got, possibly fuji, and granny Smith, pink lady
Pear: southern home, pineapple, moon glow, any low chill make offers
Asian pear: any lowest chill only need like 2 scions total since I only have one plant to graft onto. Preferably 2 varieties
Stone fruits: really anything low chill but would like various pollination compatible apriums/pluots the most. Improved plums, peaches, nectarines, etc wanted too. Have tons of graft space for prunus species. If cherry plum hybrids will graft on peach or wild plum rootstock I'd consider them too. Know true cherries will not though so unsure about hybrids but I assume it's likely.
Persimmons: saijo, chocolate, coffee cake, really any other than standard fuyu or Hachiya.
I'd consider various Mulberry and loquat too.

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Temperate Fruit Buy, Sell, & Trade / Fuyu persimmon scions for sale
« on: February 24, 2025, 09:22:28 AM »
Fuyu persimmon scions for sale at $4 each plus applicable shipping costs. Minimum of 3 scions at $12. Hit me up!

DG

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Temperate Fruit Buy, Sell, & Trade / Re: Looking for hachiya persimmon cutting
« on: February 20, 2025, 06:54:10 AM »
Unfortunately not sure any of those varieties will do well this far south. The Pineapple guava would but I do already have 3 bushes in the yard. Seed grown but makes good fruits of varying sizes on the same bush. I wouldn't mind grafting some named cultivars on them someday. Really need low chill stone fruits the most or southern apples, pears, persimmon, lowest chill Asian pear. Still could take some scions for you though. If anyone has any of the above stuff feel free to reach out.

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Tropical Vegetables and Other Edibles - Buy, Sell, & Trade / Re: Looking for Hatian basket vine
« on: February 20, 2025, 06:45:22 AM »
Unfortunately that's one I don't have. Definitely could use it too. Should have bought one when I was at ECHO global farm years ago.

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Tropical Vegetables and Other Edibles - Buy, Sell, & Trade / Re: Thai Lesser and greater galangal ginger rhizomes
« on: February 17, 2025, 07:58:50 AM »
Thank you for your purchase and feedback! I'm sure they will grow no problem for you. Pretty easy plants to get going.

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Tropical Vegetables and Other Edibles - Buy, Sell, & Trade / Re: Thai Lesser and greater galangal ginger rhizomes
« on: February 14, 2025, 10:52:21 AM »
I've always had mine in dryer ground. Never tried a wet area though so it may be possible. Shampoo and butterfly ginger seem to take wet just fine so it's worth a try. They will grow from fairly deep shade to full sun.

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Temperate Fruit Buy, Sell, & Trade / Re: Looking for hachiya persimmon cutting
« on: February 14, 2025, 10:48:45 AM »
What types of cold hardy scions you have? Things like apples, pears, plums, etc?

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