Lilikoi - Which Ones Do You Grow

[murahilin]

Anyone have Quinmi #9 cuttings for sale?

[Alippincott]

Anyone have Quinmi #9 cuttings for sale?

I crossbred a Qinmi #9 with a Dennis , hoping for a LARGE and sweet variety. Seedlings are growing right now. I might have a couple available.

[MadFarm]

https://youtube.com/shorts/8usA_0MBx0c?si=3a4Gd98wPFYqfzTK


https://youtube.com/shorts/abXtkOXRt0Y?si=RwkzggSffu78q2TT

Seed grown variety I'm enjoying

[strom]

I've always been under the impression one should wait for the outside of the fruit to become wrinkled before opening it up to eat.. interesting!

[ScottR]

Kaz, yo've got me all jazzed up about Oinmi #9 fruit I can't wait to plant by seedling outside and see how they do even if seedling don't come as sweet it would still be a winner!
Have you tryed using pollen from Oinmi #9 on purple edulis would be nice to get sweeter passiflora edulis too!

[Alippincott]

So some interesting observations about my 3 passionfruit vines that I started as sticks from the start of last summer:

Dennis: large fruits, slightly sweet, but sour. They fruited at an odd time and finished "ripening" in December. They did not end up ripening fully unfortunately. The vine produced multiple fruit, but the vine just DIED in the last month. I think I am attributing it to the very dry winds.

Qinmi #9: Smaller fruits. CRAZY productive. The cutting was grown at the start of last summer, and ended up producing 20-30 fruits. The fruit is very sweet, even when picked under-ripe. Not very sour at all even if picked early. Has a slight "vegetable taste?" this might also be from it fruiting at a weird time and not fully ripening. Weirdly enough, the fritillary butterflies seemed to ignore this vine! This variety is luckily self fertilizing, and my bees went crazy pollinating it. This variety seems like a must-have and checks off a lot of boxes.

Wild Puerto Rican Parcha (random ebay purchase): Crazy vegetative growth and healthy. No flowers produced this season. Hope to get some this next season.

Luckily before the Dennis vine died, I was able to do some cross pollination with the Qinmi #9. The Dennis is not self-compatible, so I know that since I got fruit set, there was some crossing going on. I have 25 seedlings. I plan on planting 6 or seven on a trellis I will be building. The goal being to get a large and sweet fruit since the Qinmi is a little small. The other seedlings I am hoping to trade/sell in hopes that other people can grow them out and find a successful variety. I will need to grow the seedlings out a little more before shipping to make sure they are a little more hardy.

[sc4001992]

Robert, not yet since my vine is too small to have fruits, hope this year. I also got a few more new varieties. One is supposed to be a giant purple fruit, the other is another giant yellow fruit. I may try to cross pollinate those as well as my normal purple edulis fruit vine that is large.

Alippincott, you must know how to grow these cuttings, I'm very surprised you got a Dennis fruit on your vine. I did want to mention the Dennis passionfruit
has at least  2 crops per year. The first one is about April/May, all the fruits ripens on the vine, turns yellow, tastes the best (brix=16).

Then his second crop started in Fall (100) and many of the fruits were falling off the vine not ripe and still green. In Dec/Jan, he said some fruits turned yellow but others the color didn't look good as April/May fruits. I have 3 fruits he gave me, one was yellow then when I let it ripen on the counte, it looked dark, before it started to wrinke. The other two is doing the same thing, looked nice and yellow but did not really wrinkle. I'll show a few photos of what I mean.

The Dennis still tastes good but not as high brix as in May.

Yes, you are correct, the Dennis is not self-compatible, so you got it cross pollinated, great job.

Maybe I'll try the same thing this year if my Qinmi#9 vine gets any fruits.

[sc4001992]

Dennis Big Yellow fruit seeds.

Did anyone successfully germinate and grow these seeds? If you did, please update on your seedlings.

I have some seeds from the 4 fruits I got this month, and I plan to grow them out, any suggestions on best medium to use for growing the seedlings, please let me know.

Also, if anyone who purchased the cuttings or seeds from me before and want to buy a few more, I may have extras now. Send me a message.

[Alippincott]

For the ones I grew out, I used half perlite half peat, just a classic seed starting mix. I am using a heating mat with some grow lights. It took 2-3 weeks for them to pop up. 75% germination rate.They seems quite easy to germinate when they come out fresh from the fruit
 I am not sure how well they germinate if not fresh. I don't think they have long viability.

[seng]

Can someone confirm if this is real?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/226579139250

[sc4001992]

Seng, you go visit the guy, he is in San Diego. It says local pickup. Then when you try the fruits, let us know if it is the real Qinmi#9. Take a brix meter, if it is not over 18 then it may be something else.

[seng]

I might go to his place.  It is only 15 mi.  I will ask him some questions first.  He also lists it in facebook, and said 'do not ask if it is sweet ...'

[sc4001992]

I did buy some cuttings from your post here.

[seng]

He said it is sweet (not sour at all) at 9 brix and progressively sweeter if keep on tree longer. He got his from oversea. Currently, it out of season, and the listing is sold.

[sc4001992]

ok, thanks.

[barath]

I did buy some cuttings from your post here. Since I have the Qinmi#9 plant, when and if the cuttings grow out, I can compare it to the real plant. My Qinmi#9 is a skinny vine, not sure why, but it is growing fast so I hope I get a fruit this year to try. You saw my photos I took of the large vine at the lady's place. She said her vine was only a few years old, but it was large looking to me with lots of fruits on it. When I asked her is I can buy a cutting she said no.

Maybe this year the lady might sell me a few cuttings of her Qinmi#9. I will probably offer her $10 a cutting or maybe two cuttings for $10. I'll take a large pomelo fruit on my visit as a gift.

Kaz, I was about to ask if you notice anything different about the Qinmi leaves. From the photos they look a bit different from most Passiflora edulis leaves, but I wasn't able to zoom in to get a clear view. Some of the leaves looked like normal P. edulis but some of the leaves almost looked like they had the shape of the Laurifolia supersection (which includes P. laurifolia, P. popenovii, P. venusta, etc.). If the leaves look different, I wonder if it's a hybrid.

[barath]

A long time ago I played around with Passiflora grafting, and decided to do it again. In the past I grafted the more tropical ones on P. caerulea, but that was a mistake because caerulea suckers like crazy. This time I grafted P. laurifolia on "Betty Myles Young" (P. caerulea x P. loefgrenii) because it supposedly doesn't sucker much but has the same hardiness. The graft took and it's growing (slowly). The problem I had with P. laurifolia in the past is that it hates the cold soil in the winter here, kind of like papayas, but the winter air temperature here doesn't get cold enough to kill it. Let's see if this grafted one does better.

I'm still waiting on my maybe-popenovii vines to flower so I can confirm whether they're the real thing.

I really like the fruit of P. laurifolia and hope that either popenovii fruits and it tastes similar (since they're related) or I can get laurifolia itself to grow better in our weather.

[sc4001992]

barath, I did notice the leaves look different. But from one qinmi#9 to another, they also looked different so I wonder if it is just the age.

I'll try to find a photo showing the leaves of the mature vine I posted with all those fruits, they were real, tasted excellent. My vine is small so when I have time this week, will take photos of its leaves and post. I also bought a seedling qinmi#9 plant and it had different leaves from the mature vine.

[barath]

barath, I did notice the leaves look different. But from one qinmi#9 to another, they also looked different so I wonder if it is just the age.

I'll try to find a photo showing the leaves of the mature vine I posted with all those fruits, they were real, tasted excellent. My vine is small so when I have time this week, will take photos of its leaves and post. I also bought a seedling qinmi#9 plant and it had different leaves from the mature vine.

Looking at some photos of the vine I found online, it has a bit of similarity to Passiflora alata leaves and fruit. I wonder if it is a hybrid with alata or some alata relative.

[windo9888]

 

[sc4001992]

barath, now that I have multiple seedlings and small plants of Qinmi#9, when I have time, I will take side by side photos for you to checkout the leaves and compare the little plants. For adult vine, its best to just look at the photos I posted with all those fruits hanging from the vine when I had the taste test above on 9/119/24, that is a 2-year-old vine.

Did you get a plant now? If you did, take some leaf photo and post it here for comparison with the one I have.

[ScottR]

A long time ago I played around with Passiflora grafting, and decided to do it again. In the past I grafted the more tropical ones on P. caerulea, but that was a mistake because caerulea suckers like crazy. This time I grafted P. laurifolia on "Betty Myles Young" (P. caerulea x P. loefgrenii) because it supposedly doesn't sucker much but has the same hardiness. The graft took and it's growing (slowly). The problem I had with P. laurifolia in the past is that it hates the cold soil in the winter here, kind of like papayas, but the winter air temperature here doesn't get cold enough to kill it. Let's see if this grafted one does better.

I'm still waiting on my maybe-popenovii vines to flower so I can confirm whether they're the real thing.

I really like the fruit of P. laurifolia and hope that either popenovii fruits and it tastes similar (since they're related) or I can get laurifolia itself to grow better in our weather.

Hey Barath, did you ever try grafting onto edulis flavacarpa they are vigirous growers and mine up here in Arroyo Grande has covered fence and old dead bamboo! It's a monster and never affected my cold only a little die back of top of vine leaves one year. Just a thought!

[barath]

A long time ago I played around with Passiflora grafting, and decided to do it again. In the past I grafted the more tropical ones on P. caerulea, but that was a mistake because caerulea suckers like crazy. This time I grafted P. laurifolia on "Betty Myles Young" (P. caerulea x P. loefgrenii) because it supposedly doesn't sucker much but has the same hardiness. The graft took and it's growing (slowly). The problem I had with P. laurifolia in the past is that it hates the cold soil in the winter here, kind of like papayas, but the winter air temperature here doesn't get cold enough to kill it. Let's see if this grafted one does better.

I'm still waiting on my maybe-popenovii vines to flower so I can confirm whether they're the real thing.

I really like the fruit of P. laurifolia and hope that either popenovii fruits and it tastes similar (since they're related) or I can get laurifolia itself to grow better in our weather.

Hey Barath, did you ever try grafting onto edulis flavacarpa they are vigirous growers and mine up here in Arroyo Grande has covered fence and old dead bamboo! It's a monster and never affected my cold only a little die back of top of vine leaves one year. Just a thought!

Good point -- yeah I was thinking of grafting onto Frederick since it's easy to find and very vigorous, but I never got around to it. Also, the stem shape of laurifolia matches the shape of the caerulea relatives, but doesn't match edulis or alata types, so the graft might be more tricky. Definitely worth trying.

Kaz, I am trying to get a Qinmi #9 plant soon.

[xesoteryc]

Anyone know how easy it is to graft yellow onto purple?

[sc4001992]

Robert, sometime later, I need to get a few cuttings from you to see how your passion fruit taste.

Barath, I can send you cuttings of Fredericks, just cover the cost to ship, I purchased 3 plants (Home Depot, 5gal) just so I can compare the leaves of Fredericks to Dennis, it was too similar to distinguish one from the other.