Germination rate of annona reticulata seeds from Bellamy Trees

[kangtt]

Hi,
If you have bought a. reticulata seeds from Bellamy Trees,
how was the germination rate? If you could state the variety, too.
Thanks

[Raulglezruiz]

Hi I haven't bought reticulata seeds from Bellamy, however reticulata seeds are known to have long term viability, up to a year in most cases, best germination method for me is soak them in water for 24 hours then bag them in peat moss slightly humed, they should pop out in 3/4 weeks if temperature is above 23 Celsius

[shpaz]

I have bought 2 a. reticulata seeds from Bellamy. One of them just germinated (within a month) and I am still waiting for the second one. So initially I would say things are going ok.
I also bought 4 a. salzmannii seeds from Bellamy. They all germinated in less than two months. I think if the temperatures were higher, they would've germinated even faster.

[Daintree]

Everything I have bought from them does really well.

However, I NEVER buy 2 or 3 seeds. I buy a dozen, to hedge my bets.

Then they all come up, and look so happy I don't cull them, then they take over my greenhouse. I think I still have some visitors from last month lost in the jungle out there...

 

[shpaz]

Everything I have bought from them does really well.

However, I NEVER buy 2 or 3 seeds. I buy a dozen, to hedge my bets.

Then they all come up, and look so happy I don't cull them, then they take over my greenhouse. I think I still have some visitors from last month lost in the jungle out there...

 

That's exactly why I don't buy a dozen seeds of anything anymore, I hate the culling part so much I just rather not do it haha

[kangtt]

I bought 5 different variety of a. reticulata seeds. I mistakenly thought the price was $5/pack but it was
actually $5 per seed. I planted the seeds on 11/19/2024. Still no sign of sprout yet.

[Rain]

I bought a bunch of varieties that said "The region falls within USDA Hardiness Zones 9-10". I only buy one of each. So far 3 out of 7 are germinating. The real test is when they have to face my winter next year

[Rob From Sydney]

I have bought 2 a. reticulata seeds from Bellamy. One of them just germinated (within a month) and I am still waiting for the second one. So initially I would say things are going ok.
I also bought 4 a. salzmannii seeds from Bellamy. They all germinated in less than two months. I think if the temperatures were higher, they would've germinated even faster.

How do you get your annonas germinating so fast? My reticulatas (from Andersons) haven't germinated in 9 months!

[shpaz]

I have bought 2 a. reticulata seeds from Bellamy. One of them just germinated (within a month) and I am still waiting for the second one. So initially I would say things are going ok.
I also bought 4 a. salzmannii seeds from Bellamy. They all germinated in less than two months. I think if the temperatures were higher, they would've germinated even faster.

How do you get your annonas germinating so fast? My reticulatas (from Andersons) haven't germinated in 9 months!

I did nothing different but heat helps. I am still waiting for my other one to germinate.

[Rain]

I have bought 2 a. reticulata seeds from Bellamy. One of them just germinated (within a month) and I am still waiting for the second one. So initially I would say things are going ok.
I also bought 4 a. salzmannii seeds from Bellamy. They all germinated in less than two months. I think if the temperatures were higher, they would've germinated even faster.

How do you get your annonas germinating so fast? My reticulatas (from Andersons) haven't germinated in 9 months!

Rob, what method did you use? Have you try cutting the tip of the seeds?

[Rob From Sydney]

I'm trying to germinate my Reticulatas (I call them Mexican Custard Apples) in coconut coir pots. At first, I put plastic bags over them for humidity.
After months of no success with my Mexican Custard Apples, I observed a pot of neglecled Atemoya that had seeds shooting up. The pot as only watered a couple times a month, but the soil was was lightly moist where the seeds were, and inch and half deep. so I figured annonas (with the exception of soursop) liked only gently moist soil. I removed the plastic bags, and took to only occaisional watering of my Mexican Custard Apples.
Now more months on from that, I still have no sucess and one of my seeds failed the floating/sinking test..

And I have not cut the tips of the seeds. I'd love to know more about that technique.
Thanks for the help.

[Rain]

Hi Rob, here is my step by step. The temperature is very important. It's best to keep it above 90 f during this process.

1. Soak the seeds in water for a day or two


2. Place the seeds in damp paper towels. Check every 2 or 3 days for sign of germination. If it gets moldy, clean the seeds and put it back.


3. After a week or two if it still show no sign. You can carefully trim the tip of the seed. Only cut a little bit of a time until you see the white inside. Do not cut the white seeds. Only get as close are you can.



4. Soak the seeds again for a couple hours. Then you can put it back into the clean damp paper towels. Again, keep the temperature above 90f, but no more than 98f it's very important


5. When you see the root start pushing out for half an inch or so, you can transfer it.


Note: dont transfer if the root is only starting out. This is only my personal note. Ive killed many ilama seeds by doing so. instead of growing, it start to rot. There some weird little white warms eating the seeds. I dont know if it would happen to Reticulata too or not. So I rather play safe. Wait til the root is about half inch long like this


If you don't see the white, the seeds is no longer good. So far I haven't find a bad Reticulata seeds fortunately. But i do have bad ilama seeds as an example.

[Rob From Sydney]

Thanks a lot, Rain!
"It's best to keep it above 90 f during this process" - I guess I'll have to buy a heat mat.

Anyway, I'll try this. Hopefully I have sucess. I've already killed enough annona seeds. Something like $60 USD worth  :'(

[Rain]

Thanks a lot, Rain!
"It's best to keep it above 90 f during this process" - I guess I'll have to buy a heat mat.

Anyway, I'll try this. Hopefully I have sucess. I've already killed enough annona seeds. Something like $60 USD worth  :'(

Best of luck Rob. I know I've already killed half of my ilama seeds I bought from Raul. I was experimenting different ways to germinate.

Here is 3 days later since I trimmed Dawn Reticulata seed above

[Rob From Sydney]

Sorry, I've been busy for the last couple of days. Tomorrow, if I get a chance I'll buy a heat mat so i can get started. I'll share updates.

[Rob From Sydney]

Today I bought myself a heat mat, and I've set it up and got it working. Should be somewhere from 85F to 95F.
I took my 2 mexican custard apple seeds out of their pots and trimmed them with a nail file I found around the house. I trimmed until I saw white. I then put my seeds in labelled plastic bags, filled them with warm water, and placed them on top of my heat mat. I also put a Salzmanii seed with it's shell removed in a plastic bag with water on top of the heat mat.
In about an hour I will drain the water from the bags and place a moist paper towel around the seed in each bag.

I really hope I can get some sprouts!

[ryanscion]

Today I bought myself a heat mat, and I've set it up and got it working. Should be somewhere from 85F to 95F.
I took my 2 mexican custard apple seeds out of their pots and trimmed them with a nail file I found around the house. I trimmed until I saw white. I then put my seeds in labelled plastic bags, filled them with warm water, and placed them on top of my heat mat. I also put a Salzmanii seed with it's shell removed in a plastic bag with water on top of the heat mat.
In about an hour I will drain the water from the bags and place a moist paper towel around the seed in each bag.

I really hope I can get some sprouts!

The bottom heat from the heatmat should definitely help! I have found success with using heatmats with my annona seeds so I think it will help with reticulata. Goodluck and keep us updated please.

[Rob From Sydney]

Hello, I've got an update - I've just got some pictures.
1: My rowded heatmat, with annonas, a mango seeds, a random psidium seed, and some Jamaican Cherry seeds.
2: One of my Mexican custard apple seeds.
3: A mexican custard apple seed in a bag.

The next pictures I have questions about:
4: A close of of the filed down seed. I filed until I saw some white specs from the centre of the seed. I might need to trim off some more, but I'm not sure. I would love some advice on if I should do it and how I should do it without killing the seed.
5: My Annona Salzmanii seed with it's coat removed. What should I do, I am concerned about rot and really want to grow this rare annona.

Thanks for your help!
Btw, the brown stuff you see in the pictures in cinnamon powder. It's supposed to be anti-mould.

[Rain]

Rob, I never use the Cinnamon so I cant tell. But from this picture, you trimmed the seed too far. I little head shouldn't be touch cuz that's where the root would push out. I used nail clipper to trimmed mine. what does the Annona Salzmanii seed look like right now? could you clean the cinnamon and show the picture?

This tip here shouldn't be touch.

[Rob From Sydney]

Finally, some results!
After 8-9 months of trying to germinate Mexican Custard Apple, I tried Rain's method, and got success within 3 weeks.



Thank you, Rain!

To anybody reading this, try Rain's method for germinating annonas, it worked really well. Trim the seeds with a nail clipper, soak them overnight, and let them germinate in a paper towel in a plastic bag on top of a heat mat. It works really well.

I've got another reticulata going, and a bunch of soursops I started today. I am about to start some atemoya this way.

Again, thank you Rain!

[Rain]

Finally, some results!
After 8-9 months of trying to germinate Mexican Custard Apple, I tried Rain's method, and got success within 3 weeks.



Thank you, Rain!

To anybody reading this, try Rain's method for germinating annonas, it worked really well. Trim the seeds with a nail clipper, soak them overnight, and let them germinate in a paper towel in a plastic bag on top of a heat mat. It works really well.

I've got another reticulata going, and a bunch of soursops I started today. I am about to start some atemoya this way.

Again, thank you Rain!

I'm glad to hear good result. Congrats on germination!