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Bellamy Seedling ID Help
« on: December 29, 2024, 10:53:09 AM »
Bought some seeds from Bellamy over the summer. Planted them in small pots, didn't pay much attention to them until just now. Looks like a batch has sprouted, but I was too lazy to note the plant's name on the cup, simply taped the label that came with the seeds to the container. Unfortunate, it's all faded. Can anyone tell what this is?




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Re: Bellamy Seedling ID Help
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2024, 10:57:29 AM »
Looks like some eugenia or plinia
Maybe plinia nana?
Lot of them are hairy for first leaves
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Re: Bellamy Seedling ID Help
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2024, 10:59:42 AM »
inaturalist would ID as dicots

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Re: Bellamy Seedling ID Help
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2024, 11:04:34 AM »
Thank you both for trying. This is likely some sort of eugenia as I was going through a eugenia craze over the summer. I'll post more photos as this thing grows.

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Re: Bellamy Seedling ID Help
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2024, 11:24:47 AM »
Do you happen to have the details of your order stashed away somewhere? That could help to narrow it down
I'm on the hunt for jaboticaba, Eugenia, Pouteria, Passiflora, and annona fruits (like the fruit part), if you have any to spare, lemme know!  I'm also looking for any plants that could bear fruit soon :)

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Re: Bellamy Seedling ID Help
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2024, 11:28:08 AM »
Do you happen to have the details of your order stashed away somewhere? That could help to narrow it down

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Re: Bellamy Seedling ID Help
« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2024, 11:32:27 AM »
Did you buy CDQ?

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Re: Bellamy Seedling ID Help
« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2024, 12:25:16 PM »
Did you buy CDQ?

Pretty sure I haven't bought that one.

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Re: Bellamy Seedling ID Help
« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2024, 12:28:37 PM »
Do you happen to have the details of your order stashed away somewhere? That could help to narrow it down

Yeah, I could dig through my receipts, but I hate having to use my computer (so much effort waiting for it to load and all) - my phone only saves most recent messages.

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Re: Bellamy Seedling ID Help
« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2024, 01:07:56 PM »
Possibly Eugenia klotzschiana?
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Re: Bellamy Seedling ID Help
« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2024, 04:50:13 PM »
Possibly Eugenia klotzschiana?

Good try Bill, but I don't think I have purchased that one. These are some of the ones that I bought this year:
* Eugenia Macrobracteolata - Pitanga Juba - Pitangão de restinga - Pitanga-fanta
* Eugenia Repanda - True Repanda
* Eugenia Beaurepaireana
* Campomaneisa sp Giant
* Eugenia Patrissi
* Myrciaria sp Pastora
* Eugenia Bimarginata
* Eugenia Acutata - Orange Fruit
* Myrciaria aff Delicatula
* Myrciaria sp "Blue"
* Eugenia Dichroma - Pitanga de Lagarto - Pitanga Fanta
* Eugenia Pruniformis
* Myrciaria caerulescens (Roxa - Blue Guaquiea)

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Re: Bellamy Seedling ID Help
« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2024, 03:16:28 PM »
For sure it is not Eugenia Macrobracteolata, Eugenia Beaurepaireana or Eugenia Pruniformis. It does not look like the Myrciaria caerulescens I have.
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Re: Bellamy Seedling ID Help
« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2024, 06:51:43 PM »
 Prolly Beaurepaireana if I can remember correctly that's one of the only ones on your list that pops out with that fuzzy.
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Re: Bellamy Seedling ID Help
« Reply #13 on: December 30, 2024, 06:54:47 PM »
Could be roxa too haha gotta wait alittle longer for thoes leaves to grow.
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Re: Bellamy Seedling ID Help
« Reply #14 on: December 30, 2024, 07:29:39 PM »
Thanks everyone. Hopefully it will get further along by the summer growing season and be more recognizable by then. Most of the seeds I had purchased were around $10 a piece. Hate to not know what I ended up with.

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Re: Bellamy Seedling ID Help
« Reply #15 on: December 31, 2024, 12:15:07 AM »
Prolly Beaurepaireana if I can remember correctly that's one of the only ones on your list that pops out with that fuzzy.

My E. Beaurepaireana seedlings look nothing like it.

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Re: Bellamy Seedling ID Help
« Reply #16 on: December 31, 2024, 07:42:28 AM »
Prolly Beaurepaireana if I can remember correctly that's one of the only ones on your list that pops out with that fuzzy.

My E. Beaurepaireana seedlings look nothing like it.



These are some nice looking seedlings and a very orderly setup you got there.

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Re: Bellamy Seedling ID Help
« Reply #17 on: December 31, 2024, 09:20:03 AM »
Could be acutata, don't know what that one looks like at that stage. Or if you bought pyriformis. If you really care, you could take a better photo of the label and enhance it, or find some technique like spray mist on it then sprinkle charcoal. I'm sure there's a way.

A bit of advice though, you know the saying buy a $100 hole for a $10 plant? That's like a $0.10 hole. May as well at least spend $1 on potting a $10 seed. Start by investing in some oil paint pens: https://www.amazon.com/Sharpie-Oil-Based-Paint-Marker-Medium/dp/B00KGCOZ9Y

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Re: Bellamy Seedling ID Help
« Reply #18 on: December 31, 2024, 10:31:18 AM »
Could be acutata, don't know what that one looks like at that stage. Or if you bought pyriformis. If you really care, you could take a better photo of the label and enhance it, or find some technique like spray mist on it then sprinkle charcoal. I'm sure there's a way.

A bit of advice though, you know the saying buy a $100 hole for a $10 plant? That's like a $0.10 hole. May as well at least spend $1 on potting a $10 seed. Start by investing in some oil paint pens: https://www.amazon.com/Sharpie-Oil-Based-Paint-Marker-Medium/dp/B00KGCOZ9Y

I do have those oil paint pens. I thought the label would be protected being in the plastic sleeve - didn't think it would fade so quickly. It could be acutata. I wonder if Kam, the man himself, is around to chime in with his assessment.

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Re: Bellamy Seedling ID Help
« Reply #19 on: January 29, 2025, 03:18:37 PM »
Prolly Beaurepaireana if I can remember correctly that's one of the only ones on your list that pops out with that fuzzy.

My E. Beaurepaireana seedlings look nothing like it.



Ok very weird, I germinated a seed from Bellamy that was supposed to be Eugenia Bahiensis that looks exactly like this. Hard to mix up since it’s very different looking than other seedlings. I looked up images of mature E. Bahiensis and it doesn’t look the same. I also have seedlings of E. beaurepairiana and the leaves don’t match either. So I’m confused as to what exactly we both have? Here’s a photo of it first emerging and some current photos.





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Re: Bellamy Seedling ID Help
« Reply #20 on: January 29, 2025, 03:36:17 PM »
OP, zooming in close to the picture you showed, the faded ink really looks like it says "Blue Guaquiea". The plant itself looks pretty close to one, too!
« Last Edit: January 29, 2025, 03:57:33 PM by gardenGnostic »

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Re: Bellamy Seedling ID Help
« Reply #21 on: January 29, 2025, 04:10:12 PM »
Bought some seeds from Bellamy over the summer. Planted them in small pots, didn't pay much attention to them until just now. Looks like a batch has sprouted, but I was too lazy to note the plant's name on the cup, simply taped the label that came with the seeds to the container. Unfortunate, it's all faded. Can anyone tell what this is?



it looks a lot like my myrciaria caerulescens seedling. i will post a picture later
I'm on the hunt for jaboticaba, Eugenia, Pouteria, Passiflora, and annona fruits (like the fruit part), if you have any to spare, lemme know!  I'm also looking for any plants that could bear fruit soon :)

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Re: Bellamy Seedling ID Help
« Reply #22 on: January 29, 2025, 04:30:30 PM »
Bought some seeds from Bellamy over the summer. Planted them in small pots, didn't pay much attention to them until just now. Looks like a batch has sprouted, but I was too lazy to note the plant's name on the cup, simply taped the label that came with the seeds to the container. Unfortunate, it's all faded. Can anyone tell what this is?



it looks a lot like my myrciaria caerulescens seedling. i will post a picture later

Thanks you. The name does sound familiar. Here's an updated picture of the plant:




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Re: Bellamy Seedling ID Help
« Reply #23 on: January 29, 2025, 04:52:36 PM »
OP, zooming in close to the picture you showed, the faded ink really looks like it says "Blue Guaquiea". The plant itself looks pretty close to one, too!
that is the common name for m. caerulescens, I think that it Is very likely that

Bought some seeds from Bellamy over the summer. Planted them in small pots, didn't pay much attention to them until just now. Looks like a batch has sprouted, but I was too lazy to note the plant's name on the cup, simply taped the label that came with the seeds to the container. Unfortunate, it's all faded. Can anyone tell what this is?



it looks a lot like my myrciaria caerulescens seedling. i will post a picture later

Thanks you. The name does sound familiar. Here's an updated picture of the plant:




the leaves on mine haven't fully developed, it is still really tiny but I will let you know when they do :)
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I'm on the hunt for jaboticaba, Eugenia, Pouteria, Passiflora, and annona fruits (like the fruit part), if you have any to spare, lemme know!  I'm also looking for any plants that could bear fruit soon :)

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Re: Bellamy Seedling ID Help
« Reply #24 on: January 29, 2025, 05:19:21 PM »
That's a nice looking plant.

Prolly Beaurepaireana if I can remember correctly that's one of the only ones on your list that pops out with that fuzzy.

My E. Beaurepaireana seedlings look nothing like it.



Ok very weird, I germinated a seed from Bellamy that was supposed to be Eugenia Bahiensis that looks exactly like this. Hard to mix up since it’s very different looking than other seedlings. I looked up images of mature E. Bahiensis and it doesn’t look the same. I also have seedlings of E. beaurepairiana and the leaves don’t match either. So I’m confused as to what exactly we both have? Here’s a photo of it first emerging and some current photos.






 

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