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Sapodilla Variety Box Tasting Notes
« on: February 07, 2025, 01:27:25 PM »
I love Sapodilla. I have eaten a lot of them and already have 5 young trees in the ground (Thomas, Morena, Silas Wood, Alano, and Butterscotch) so my decisions are made. While I wait for those trees to start producing, I couldn't resist ordering a sampler box from Lara Farms. The box contained the Tikal, Morena, Hasya and Molix varieties, an excellent selection. The fruit varied in size from baseball down to chicken egg.

When I eat Sapodilla, I am looking for sweetness with tropical dimension, the way that rum or caramel develops sugar's flavor into a complex and exciting taste. Sweetness level should be moderate but not excessive, and rounded out with some spice. I like a firmer texture when ripe, plus a little grit to complete the illusion that I'm eating a tropical pear. My favorite way to eat them is to peel off the skin with a paring knife and then eat it like a pear. I will start off with Tikal & Hasya.

Tikal Sapodilla Tasting
The first Tikal I tried was overripe with a soft, watery texture. Even when ripe the fruit has less body and bite than the others - it doesn't stand up well to chewing. Tikal lacks much texture but on the plus side for some, it also lacks grit. Moderately sweet with no acid component. The flavor is uncomplicated, tasting almost like granulated white sugar or maybe "sugar in the raw". In a generous mood I might say it reminds me of a weak, low quality maple syrup flavor. Tikal lacks spice and complexity. For most serious tropical fruit growers, Tikal will be a letdown on both texture and flavor. However, the mild flavor might be good for kids or others who avoid exotic tastes? Although decent and enjoyable, there are better options than Tikal.




Hasya Sapodilla Tasting
Cutting open a Hasya Sapodilla reveals a much redder flesh than other varieties. The redness increases with ripeness, as does the flavor. The texture provides some bite and firmness when ripe, along with a satisfying fine graininess. Not soft, squishy, or gritty. The moderate sweetness comes with caramel overtones, adding dimension to the sweetness. The flavor is full of tropical spice with cinnamon, floral notes and even hints of Mamey Sapote. The complex taste is both memorable and outstanding, and not overly sweet. I want to eat more and it has been a struggle to wait for the rest of them to fully ripen. The large fruit has small seeds and I consider this a top selection. I have heard some concerns about low production on trees.
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Re: Sapodilla Variety Box Tasting Notes
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2025, 05:53:10 PM »
Morena Sapodilla Tasting
I'm not a native Spanish speaker, but I'm pretty sure that Morena refers to a woman with brown hair, a brunette. And the Morena fruit has brown skin and mostly brown flesh (with some red), although I don't know if it's that much more brunette than the others. Nevertheless, it's a very tasty Sapodilla cultivar.

The ripe texture is slightly less than firm with some grit present. I'd prefer a firmer texture and I don't mind the grit, but it is more noticeable than the other varieties and might put some people off. Moderately sweet but not candy sweet. The sweetness takes on the exciting characteristics of sugar caramelizing with hints of roasted marshmallow highlighting a distinct brown sugar and honey foundation. This is classic Sapodilla flavor but I wish it was more intense. For my palate, I prefer more spice and complexity. As an everyday Sapodilla with wide appeal Morena is an excellent choice and I don't think you can go wrong if you choose to plant this variety. While not my top choice I would happily eat it every day.



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Re: Sapodilla Variety Box Tasting Notes
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2025, 12:56:02 PM »
Molix Sapodilla Tasting
The Molix fruit are among the larger ones and also have a reddish tinge to the flesh when ripe. You can tell when the fruit is ready as the skin sheds it's rough texture and becomes smooth and papery. Biting into a ripe Molix Sapodilla reveals adequate firmness with some grit present. The moderately sweet flesh has a robust brown sugar taste. My palate detects lots of exciting flavors, predominantly cinammon graham cracker with a faint hint of Maraschino cherry in the sweetest/ripest parts. The taste is absolutely delightful and very similar to Hasya, I think I like the Molix just a little better. Of the four varieties, Molix is probably my top choice, just edging out Hasya. Make sure you try this one.

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« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2025, 01:20:07 PM »
Thanks for the detailed reviews!

I wish you had a Butterscotch, Thomas and Alano to compare.

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« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2025, 01:57:17 PM »
Thank you! Looking forward more varieties.

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« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2025, 05:57:01 AM »
Thanks for the detailed reviews!

I wish you had a Butterscotch, Thomas and Alano to compare.

With the low production everyone gets with Butterscotch I doubt we will ever see fruit for sale.

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« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2025, 06:02:25 AM »
Have you tried Excalibur?

They have tons of Saps for sale all the time and typically its dirt cheap compared to Lara.

If he is shipping it Im getting it from there for way cheaper.

It is luck of the draw but if you go Friday, Saturday first thing it can be rewarding.

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« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2025, 09:22:00 AM »
for me the low production issue for Haysa was fixed by planting another sapodilla next to it.  pollination.  I planted a butterscotch as the second tree, and it is pretty slow growing.  Haysa is somewhat slow growing too but must faster than butterscotch, lol.  for me haysa has a vanilla flavor to it which I love.  My favorite sapodilla so far

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« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2025, 01:01:27 PM »
Glad everyone is getting some value from my tasting notes, and I find it exciting to hear the impressions of others. It's always smart to plant two cultivars of any tree near each other, and Hasya is so delicious (and big) it's worth the effort for that exotic flavor.

I've had Alano and enjoyed it but it has been two years so I hesitate to make a direct comparison to my present experiences. Never tried Butterscotch and that seems like a long shot at present. Maybe Tropical Acres would have some Thomas fruit to sell? Alex grows a lot of Thomas. I have actually planted all three of those trees in the last 6 months but it will take some time before I have fruit. If anyone has any for sale I am happy to buy fruit.

I did not even know an Excalibur cultivar existed - I might be able to stop by there on Saturday.

I am actually considering replacing my Moreno tree with a Molix. I planted the Moreno as a 7 gallon in November but Molix was just a cut above! Another hundred bucks down the tubes  ;D
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« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2025, 04:00:50 PM »
Thanks for these, CC. I just picked up a Hasya, Gigantea, and a Butterscotch sapodilla from a local nursery this weekend as a B-day treat to myself. I'm gonna go back next week and pick up a Molix and a jackfruit as well.

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« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2025, 04:37:36 PM »
I'm gonna go back next week and pick up a Molix and a jackfruit as well.

Nice haul and happy birthday! I'm waiting for a big Molix to ripen and I can't stop thinking about it!

What kind of jackfruit are you going for? I've been thinking about planting some seedlings for the upright growth habit.
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« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2025, 08:34:49 PM »
Thank you! Unfortunately , I never tasted a proper Sapodilla- many of the ones I've tried were picked far too early.

 I'm trying to find a cochin - something a little more dwarf, but I might settle for one of the Crunch ones or a Mai.

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« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2025, 11:24:35 PM »
I'm trying to find a cochin - something a little more dwarf, but I might settle for one of the Crunch ones or a Mai.

I got a 15 gallon Cochin at Jack & The Beanstalk in Loxahatchee recently. Xain's World probably has some 3 gallon Cochin. Lara Farms has 1 gallon Cochin they will ship if you don't want to drive to the east coast but I have lost a lot of their 1 gallon trees. I might also get a Cheena as I think that's another one of the smaller jacks.

Here's a recent video that came out of a Butterscotch sapodilla tasting. Not a lot of detail but you get to see two trees and the fruit. So far it's not very productive for him:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5yBRIoRdI8
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« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2025, 09:07:20 AM »
Its crazy how low the production is on these younger ones.

The one at Zills seemed loaded so maybe one day these will produce better.

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« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2025, 09:45:24 AM »
Thanks CC, I'm due for a trip over there anyway- I'll have to check it out,
I finally bought a large 7G Mamey because I got tired of losing 1Gs, even 1G mangos are tricky and have to be babied.
I already have a Silas Wood and Morena in the ground over a year, and neither have done anything, if I get a couple dozen fruit a year from 6 trees I'll be happy. Anyway, I don't want to derail the thread. Thanks again

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« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2025, 05:16:24 PM »
I had an Alano tree in the past.  I loved when the fruit got sweet as candy, and the flavor reminded me of coffee with cream and lots of sugar.  I've planted an Alano tree in the community here.  It's about five feet tall now with a few tiny fruit on it.  We have some sapodilla trees growing "in the wild" nearby (vacant lots)--enormous, beautiful trees--but they don't bear much fruit.  Coconut Cream could be a wine sommelier if he wanted to be!  (There are also olive oil sommeliers, believe or not.)
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« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2025, 07:37:52 PM »
Nice to see you liked Hasya, Erickson Farms sells Hasya fruit very reasonably for shipping or pickup in case anyone else might be interested in trying it: https://ericksonfarm.3dcartstores.com/Sapodilla_c_6.html

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« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2025, 09:44:14 AM »
Nice to see you liked Hasya, Erickson Farms sells Hasya fruit very reasonably for shipping or pickup in case anyone else might be interested in trying it: https://ericksonfarm.3dcartstores.com/Sapodilla_c_6.html

Yeah, that is a fantastic deal. 20 pounds for about 90 bucks shipped. I actually called them a couple days ago to ask what variety they were selling but never heard back. Now that I know it's Hasya, time to place an order.
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« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2025, 02:24:34 PM »
Nice to see you liked Hasya, Erickson Farms sells Hasya fruit very reasonably for shipping or pickup in case anyone else might be interested in trying it: https://ericksonfarm.3dcartstores.com/Sapodilla_c_6.html

Gah, there's a California ban on Florida sapodillas.  I'll get to try them some day.  Maybe when my Butterscotch bears fruit.  Though it sounds like I should pick up another variety as well.

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« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2025, 05:35:49 PM »








These are some of the local giants of the sapodilla world.
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« Reply #20 on: February 14, 2025, 05:24:07 PM »
Beautiful trees johnb51!

Nice to see you liked Hasya, Erickson Farms sells Hasya fruit very reasonably for shipping or pickup in case anyone else might be interested in trying it: https://ericksonfarm.3dcartstores.com/Sapodilla_c_6.html

Gah, there's a California ban on Florida sapodillas.  I'll get to try them some day.  Maybe when my Butterscotch bears fruit.  Though it sounds like I should pick up another variety as well.

Sorry about that! Yeah looks like they can't ship to CA, AZ or HI.

Coconut Cream, I contacted them last week to ask about the varieties too and finally heard back the other day confirming Hasya. They must be getting busy!

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« Reply #21 on: February 15, 2025, 01:49:24 AM »
There is Rivas sapodilla from Dr. Campbell.
Please review it if you can get hold of it.

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« Reply #22 on: February 17, 2025, 11:46:50 PM »
Beautiful trees johnb51!

Nice to see you liked Hasya, Erickson Farms sells Hasya fruit very reasonably for shipping or pickup in case anyone else might be interested in trying it: https://ericksonfarm.3dcartstores.com/Sapodilla_c_6.html

Gah, there's a California ban on Florida sapodillas.  I'll get to try them some day.  Maybe when my Butterscotch bears fruit.  Though it sounds like I should pick up another variety as well.

Sorry about that! Yeah looks like they can't ship to CA, AZ or HI.

Coconut Cream, I contacted them last week to ask about the varieties too and finally heard back the other day confirming Hasya. They must be getting busy!

All good.  That's just the way it goes with fruit sometimes.  Hopefully I'll be able to try some fruit from my own trees eventually.

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Re: Sapodilla Variety Box Tasting Notes
« Reply #23 on: February 18, 2025, 09:15:08 PM »
Morena has really grown on me in recent years. It’s productive and the size of the fruit is really nice. They started early this year and we only have a few left on the tree now.

Molix is an absolute champ of a tree. Super productive and very high quality flavor.


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« Reply #24 on: February 27, 2025, 06:40:18 PM »
Coconut Cream, thanks for recommending Hasya, it's delicious! Agree it has more complex flavor depth than just sweet like some other sapodillas, and only a few small seeds.

Highly recommend Erickson Farm. I ordered the small 7 lb box and received 10 lbs / 26 fruit, best $45 I've spent lately :)

Have you gotten to try Gigantia?

 

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