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Growing fruit Doesn't have a Appeal it should
I brought it up around college girls, and some guy got very Macho.

They need to make a Movie Where the main Character Takes care of His orchard,
and is a bad Ass that fights off the Mexican Mafia looking to exploit his profits through extortion  !

Keven Jones Is a Very Hollywood sounding type Name I'm sure You'd have cool factor then.
The Plot could use some working like Indiana Jones
where you go discover New fruits to introduce to the world ,
 and the Mexican Mafia is all in your head ,
 but that leaves out the bad ass aspect of it.

Not to say The picture represents you
just the part you'd play being delusional thinking the mafia was after you.

Anyone that crosses our Native Passiflora incarnata with a Edulis is cool in my book
and would interest me to hear a flavor growing report 
(why I asked for pollen to give me a heads start in back crossing ).

Just meant gardeners can have stigma ,
but some of the hardest working, and hardcore  people are into this s###.
This is why I go for only farms dating breed some mean tough kids, and to protect me.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pineapples--The Half Pot Experiment
« on: June 30, 2021, 07:46:17 PM »
Rainman Is this to say in pots better to use a draining soil with clover to fix Nitrogen

This experiment is not surprising
people use tree tubes for speeding growth

Although repeating myself I started some mango 3 week earlier
 (sale 19 cents at jewel under ripe with black spots but became ripe  over time-)

The one in the dog food bag with thick plastic started  3 weeks later grew bigger faster thicker
then the ones started just in (the same )potting soil in pot, and was 3 weeks younger
so no coincidence I had a bunch of seeds it out competing all those seeds ..

Now I have No Idea if thick walls  of plastic from a Heavy duty bag
blocking the light would be helpful for Pineapple.

I should try (I have a used perlite  bag that is thick etc.)

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: American black cherry
« on: June 30, 2021, 06:26:02 AM »
How much room do you have
The Marble ones are 60 foot tree's,
and look healthy taste are  sweet
good amount of meat to seed ratio.

Remember Not sure If I am going by there ,
but glad I was reminded completely forgot.

If I get some I will let everyone here know
last time I had a full grocery bag(s) full of seeds
someone threw it in the trash I think though as I remember it at least..

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rats gone carnivorous
« on: June 30, 2021, 06:16:30 AM »
Alberta Canada Province is a big area in the 50's they had everyone remove Norwegian rats,
,and that area has got rid of them

Rats like A warm source of heat so it must be easier there,

During Corona Virus would of been the best time to employ a large population to remove our rats

In Chicago They are bad sat at the park, and they bit my friends leg
I took a nap ,and one jumped on my chest looking in my face this has happened twice.
At least According to our Local News Chicago ranks #1, in Population but not a very reliable source

Does not take a rocket Scientist look at the Dumpsters it is level with the grocery stores
pretty chilling seeing huge populations running back , and forth to the food
(maybe 10 20 every few seconds just a bunch , and fast.)

By the way your not talking Nutra rats being Carnivorous
I thought it was common knowledge rats eat meat
(we do not have fruit trees like you down there
(I saw tree rats In New Orleans , but they are not like here at least in Chicago.)

I removed a lot of what I wrote ABOVE , about environmental disasters
 but I missed my point in doing so
My point is
We have a Very rare flower that only grows in a small county  in IL,
 AND NO WHERE ELSE IN THE USA that has been documented

Imagine if all those invasive plants replace the habitat , and
what about all the plants along the shores going extinct in South America  , because of the
Mercury poisoning  from Gold harvesting which is badly destroying the shores of the Amazon .

(I decide not to give up the rare plant  b/c of desperate  poachers ma try to dig them up.)

Yes After I thought of it after posting I thought A better title
Precursor  to #3

Have a long discussion , and set the list out.

Anyways Not feeling well so I have had time today not to sleep, and look into my emails, and read.

Looking online I was just reading about botanical Gardens In Europe Saving Seeds from native wild populations  with not very much Biodiversity within each Species  , also sending out seed packets with Invasive seeds (not Native), and these are the people trying to help Speaking of which I often see the same type of thing here Natives being listed as Invasive, because that is it's nature, and being destroyed.

I am not Very happy seeing a Wild grape with a Thick trunk chopped in the woods
or Invasive trees that need to be cut, but waiting until after they go to fruit spreading more seeds
A common Practice to prevent Herbicide Drift in Multiple counties , and surrounding states
Does that make much Sense wait for a Buckthorn (Rhamnaceae)  a Multi seed fruit ,
 and is a laxative known to be used on people ,
to be craped all over the place by birds , and spread like wildfire.

These things  strangle Newly grown tree's by out competing , Also they kill fish
like Honeysuckle does as well How So?
Well The native Ground covers in the forest  Hold the top soil in place
When A bunch of tree's crowd these out it can be washed away
After the nitrogen rich mixture goes into a pond it depletes the water of oxygen
A bunch of things go out of balance New Plants grow Vigorous by the pond algae does as well
When it dies it suffocates all the fish.

This is on the Trade sell

They do not have seeds but maybe will get them in

All I have read is ZA (south Africa plants site) , and ken Ferns
(there is also Zimbia country site as well)

(that above site might send you down a rabbit hole a lot of links it has been a while)

I would likem to read memebers thoughts, but you could try searching as well here maybe./

I changed the Title a bit
(opinion should I just EDIT IN
 what I initially was going to call it
(Endangered Fruit Species Part part 3)

Also have more to add about a Dam being built in China,
and newly discovered plants thought extinct being preserved before dam is built.
 (but no link  sorry it's only on paper I tried, buit wrote down after  seeing it on China TV.)

Here are older posts

 Endangered Fruit Species Part 1
& part 2

 Endangered Fruit Species Part 2

Quote Fruit Lovers
Annona asplundiana
Annona atabapensis
Annona conica
Annona cristalensis
Annona deceptrix
Annona deminuta
Annona dolichophylla
Annona ecuadorensis
Annona ekmanii
Annona hystricoides
Annona manabiensis
Annona oligocarpa
Annona praetermissa
Annona spragueiCampomanesia aromatica
Artocarpus blancoi
Artocarpus hypargyreus
Artocarpus nobilis
Artocarpus rubrovenus
Artocarpus treculianus
Baccaurea glabrifolia
Baccaurea odoratissima
Bactris coloniata
Bactris jamaicana
Bactris longiseta
Bactris nancibensis
Bactris pickelii
Bactris setiflora
Bunchosia cauliflora
Bunchosia jamaicensis
Bunchosia linearifolia
Campomanesia espiritosantensis
Campomanesia hirsuta
Campomanesia laurifolia
Campomanesia neriiflora
Campomanesia phaea
Campomanesia viatoris
Canarium fusco-calycinum
Canarium kipella
Canarium luzonicum
Canarium ovatum
Canarium paniculatum
Canarium perlisanum
Canarium pseudodecumanum
Canarium pseudopatentinervium
Canarium pseudopimela
Canarium sarawakanum
Canarium whitei
Canarium zeylanicum
Candle Tree (Parmentiera cereifera)
Candle Tree (Parmentiera dressleri)
Candle Tree (Parmentiera morii)
Candle Tree (Parmentiera stenocarpa)
Carica horovitziana
Carica jamaicensis
Carica omnilingua
Carica palandensis
Carica pulchra
Carica sprucei
Chilean Wine Palm
Chrysophyllum acreanum
Chrysophyllum albipilum
Chrysophyllum azaguieanum
Chrysophyllum claraense
Chrysophyllum durifructum
Chrysophyllum euryphyllum
Chrysophyllum imperiale
Chrysophyllum lanatum
Chrysophyllum paranaense
Chrysophyllum pauciflorum
Chrysophyllum revolutum
Chrysophyllum splendens
Chrysophyllum subspinosum
Chrysophyllum superbum
Cinnamomum balansae
Cinnamomum brevipedunculatum
Cinnamomum capparu-coronde
Cinnamomum chemungianum
Cinnamomum citriodorum
Cinnamomum filipedicellatum
Cinnamomum kanahirae
Cinnamomum kotoense
Cinnamomum litseifolium
Cinnamomum macrostemon
Cinnamomum mairei
Cinnamomum mathewsii
Cinnamomum mercadoi
Cinnamomum osmophloeum
Cinnamomum parviflorum
Cinnamomum perrottetii
Cinnamomum reticulatum
Cinnamomum riparium
Cinnamomum rivulorum
Cinnamomum walaiwarense
Citrus taiwanica
Clausena calciphila
Clavija jelskii
Clavija parvula
Clavija pungens
Clavija repanda
Clavija subandina
Coccoloba cholutecensis
Coccoloba coriacea
Coccoloba lindaviana
Coccoloba matudae
Coccoloba proctorii
Coccoloba retirensis
Coccoloba rugosa
Coccoloba tiliacea
Coccoloba troyana
Coffea bakossii
Coffea costatifructa
Coffea fadenii
Coffea macrocarpa
Coffea mongensis
Coffea myrtifolia
Coffea pocsii
Coffea pseudozanguebariae
Coffea togoensis
Coffea zanguebariae
Couepia joaquinae
Couepia recurva
Couepia schottii
Couepia scottmorii
Cuban Mangosteen
Cynometra bourdillonii
Cynometra brachyrrhachis
Cynometra cubensis
Cynometra engleri
Cynometra falcata
Cynometra filifera
Cynometra gillmanii
Cynometra inaequifolia
Cynometra longipedicellata
Cynometra lukei
Cynometra suaheliensis
Cynometra travancorica
Cynometra ulugurensis
Cynometra webberi
Dillenia ferruginea
Dillenia fischeri
Dillenia luzoniensis
Dillenia megalantha
Dillenia philippinensis
Dillenia reifferscheidtia
Dillenia triquetra
Diospyros albiflora
Diospyros amaniensis
Diospyros angulata
Diospyros atrata
Diospyros attenuata
Diospyros barberi
Diospyros barteri
Diospyros benstonei
Diospyros blancoi
Diospyros blumutensis
Diospyros boutoniana
Diospyros celebica
Diospyros chaetocarpa
Diospyros chrysophyllos
Diospyros conformis
Diospyros crassiflora
Diospyros crumenata
Diospyros daemona
Diospyros ebenoides
Diospyros egrettarum
Diospyros esmereg
Diospyros fastidiosa
Diospyros feliciana
Diospyros gambleana
Diospyros gillisonii
Diospyros greenwayi
Diospyros hemiteles
Diospyros hirsuta
Diospyros impolita
Diospyros insidiosa
Diospyros insularis
Diospyros katendei
Diospyros kingii
Diospyros kotoensis
Diospyros kupensis
Diospyros leucomelas
Diospyros littorea
Diospyros lolinopsis
Diospyros magogoana
Diospyros margaretae
Diospyros melanida
Diospyros minimifolia
Diospyros molissima
Diospyros moonii
Diospyros mun
Diospyros nebulosa
Diospyros neraudii
Diospyros nodosa
Diospyros nummulariifolia
Diospyros oblongifolia
Diospyros oppositifolia
Diospyros perplexa
Diospyros philippinensis
Diospyros pterocalyx
Diospyros pulgarensis
Diospyros pustulata
Diospyros quaesita
Diospyros revaughanii
Diospyros rheophytica
Diospyros riojae
Diospyros selangorensis
Diospyros seychellarum
Diospyros shimbaensis
Diospyros tero
Diospyros tessellaria
Diospyros thwaitesii
Diospyros trichophylla
Diospyros trisulca
Diospyros vaccinioides
Diospyros veillonii
Diospyros walkeri
Diospyros xolocotzii
Duguetia barteri
Duguetia peruviana
Duguetia schulzii
Durian Marangang
Durian Munjit
Durian Pulu
Durian Tuang
Durio acutifolius
Durio pinangianus
Elaeocarpus acmosepalus
Elaeocarpus apiculatus
Elaeocarpus blascoi
Elaeocarpus bojeri
Elaeocarpus brigittae
Elaeocarpus ceylanicus
Elaeocarpus colnettianus
Elaeocarpus coriaceus
Elaeocarpus dinagatensis
Elaeocarpus eriobotryoides
Elaeocarpus fraseri
Elaeocarpus gaussenii
Elaeocarpus gigantifolius
Elaeocarpus glandulifer
Elaeocarpus inopinatus
Elaeocarpus integrifolius
Elaeocarpus miriensis
Elaeocarpus moratii
Elaeocarpus prunifolius
Elaeocarpus recurvatus
Elaeocarpus royenii
Elaeocarpus rugosus
Elaeocarpus simaluensis
Elaeocarpus subvillosus
Elaeocarpus venustus
Eugenia abbreviata
Eugenia aboukirensis
Eugenia aceitillo
Eugenia acunai
Eugenia acutisepala
Eugenia acutissima
Eugenia albida
Eugenia amoena
Eugenia arianae
Eugenia bayatensis
Eugenia benjamina
Eugenia bojeri
Eugenia brachythrix
Eugenia brownei
Eugenia burkilliana
Eugenia calcadensis
Eugenia camptophylla
Eugenia caudata
Eugenia colipensis
Eugenia conglomerata
Eugenia cordifoliolata
Eugenia coyolensis
Eugenia crassicaulis
Eugenia crassipetala
Eugenia crenata
Eugenia cyrtophylloides
Eugenia daenikeri
Eugenia discifera
Eugenia discors
Eugenia eperforata
Eugenia ericoides
Eugenia excisa
Eugenia fernandopoana
Eugenia floccosa
Eugenia fulva
Eugenia gageana
Eugenia gatopensis
Eugenia gilgii
Eugenia glabra
Eugenia goniocalyx
Eugenia guayaquilensis
Eugenia haematocarpa
Eugenia haniffii
Eugenia hanoverensis
Eugenia hastilis
Eugenia heterochroa
Eugenia hexovulata
Eugenia hypoleuca
Eugenia indica
Eugenia insignis
Eugenia johorensis
Eugenia kaalensis
Eugenia kameruniana
Eugenia kellyana
Eugenia klossii
Eugenia koolauensis
Eugenia lamprophylla
Eugenia lancetillae
Eugenia laurae
Eugenia longicuspis
Eugenia mackeeana
Eugenia mexicana
Eugenia micranthoides
Eugenia microcarpa
Eugenia mozomboensis
Eugenia ngadimaniana
Eugenia nicholsii
Eugenia noumeensis
Eugenia pallidula
Eugenia plumbea
Eugenia polypora
Eugenia porphyrantha
Eugenia prasina
Eugenia pseudoclaviflora
Eugenia pustulescens
Eugenia pycnoneura
Eugenia quadrata
Eugenia rendlei
Eugenia rheophytica
Eugenia rhomboidea
Eugenia rivulorum
Eugenia rottleriana
Eugenia rotundata
Eugenia rufo-fulva
Eugenia sachetae
Eugenia salamensis
Eugenia scalarinervis
Eugenia schulziana
Eugenia schunkei
Eugenia setosa
Eugenia singampattiana
Eugenia sripadaense
Eugenia sulcivenia
Eugenia swettenhamiana
Eugenia tabouensis
Eugenia taipingensis
Eugenia terpnophylla
Eugenia tiumanensis
Eugenia umtamvunensis
Eugenia uxpanapensis
Eugenia valvata
Eugenia vaughanii
Eugenia virotii
Eugenia woodburyana
Fig Tree (Ficus aguaraguensis)
Fig Tree (Ficus andamanica)
Fig Tree (Ficus angladei)
Fig Tree (Ficus aripuanensis)
Fig Tree (Ficus bizanae)
Fig Tree (Ficus blepharophylla)
Fig Tree (Ficus bojeri)
Fig Tree (Ficus calyptroceras)
Fig Tree (Ficus cyclophylla)
Fig Tree (Ficus faulkneriana)
Fig Tree (Ficus lacunata)
Fig Tree (Ficus lapathifolia)
Fig Tree (Ficus lateriflora)
Fig Tree (Ficus meizonochlamys)
Fig Tree (Ficus mexiae)
Fig Tree (Ficus muelleriana)
Fig Tree (Ficus mutabilis)
Fig Tree (Ficus pakkensis)
Fig Tree (Ficus pulchella)
Fig Tree (Ficus ramiflora)
Fig Tree (Ficus roraimensis)
Fig Tree (Ficus salzmanniana)
Fig Tree (Ficus ulmifolia)
Fig Tree (Ficus ursina)
Garcinia acutifolia
Garcinia afzelii
Garcinia bifasciculata
Garcinia brevipedicellata
Garcinia cadelliana
Garcinia clusiaefolia
Garcinia costata
Garcinia decussata
Garcinia epunctata
Garcinia holttumii
Garcinia imberti
Garcinia kingii
Garcinia kola
Garcinia linii
Garcinia montana
Garcinia paucinervis
Garcinia quaesita
Garcinia rubro-echinata
Garcinia semseii
Garcinia staudtii
Garcinia thwaitesii
Garcinia travancorica
Garcinia wightii
Garcinia zeylanica
Glycosmis crassifolia
Glycosmis longisepala
Glycosmis monticola
Glycosmis perakensis
Glycosmis tomentella
Grewia aldabrensis
Grewia bilocularis
Grewia milleri
Grewia salicifolia
Grewia turbinata
Grias colombiana
Grias haughtii
Grias longirachis
Grias multinervia
Gustavia acuminata
Gustavia dodsonii
Gustavia erythrocarpa
Gustavia excelsa
Gustavia foliosa
Gustavia fosteri
Gustavia gracillima
Gustavia latifolia
Gustavia longepetiolata
Gustavia longifuniculata
Gustavia monocaulis
Gustavia petiolata
Gustavia pubescens
Gustavia santanderiensis
Gustavia serrata
Gustavia sessilis
Gustavia verticillata
Guthrie's Ground-plum
Guzmania aequatorialis
Guzmania albescens
Guzmania alborosea
Guzmania alcantareoides
Guzmania andreettae
Guzmania atrocastanea
Guzmania bergii
Guzmania condorensis
Guzmania corniculata
Guzmania dalstroemii
Guzmania ecuadorensis
Guzmania foetida
Guzmania fosteriana
Guzmania fuerstenbergiana
Guzmania fuquae
Guzmania fusispica
Guzmania harlingii
Guzmania henniae
Guzmania hirtzii
Guzmania hollinensis
Guzmania inexpectata
Guzmania izkoi
Guzmania kentii
Guzmania lepidota
Guzmania madisonii
Guzmania osyana
Guzmania poortmanii
Guzmania pseudospectabilis
Guzmania puyoensis
Guzmania roseiflora
Guzmania rubrolutea
Guzmania septata
Guzmania sieffiana
Guzmania striata
Guzmania teuscheri
Guzmania xanthobractea
Guzmania zakii

Quote Fruit Lovers
Inga allenii
Inga amboroensis
Inga andersonii
Inga approximata
Inga aptera
Inga arenicola
Inga augusti
Inga balsapambensis
Inga bella
Inga bicoloriflora
Inga bijuga
Inga blanchetiana
Inga bollandii
Inga bracteifera
Inga bullata
Inga bullatorugosa
Inga cabelo
Inga calantha
Inga calanthoides
Inga calcicola
Inga canonegrensis
Inga carinata
Inga caudata
Inga chiapensis
Inga coragypsea
Inga cuspidata
Inga cynometrifolia
Inga dominicensis
Inga dwyeri
Inga enterolobioides
Inga exfoliata
Inga exilis
Inga extra-nodis
Inga fosteriana
Inga gereauana
Inga golfodulcensis
Inga grazielae
Inga herrerae
Inga hispida
Inga interfluminensis
Inga ismaelis
Inga jaunechensis
Inga jimenezii
Inga lacustris
Inga lanceifolia
Inga latipes
Inga lenticellata
Inga lentiscifolia
Inga leptantha
Inga leptingoides
Inga litoralis
Inga macarenensis
Inga macrantha
Inga maritima
Inga martinicensis
Inga mendoncaei
Inga microcalyx
Inga mortoniana
Inga mucuna
Inga multicaulis
Inga neblinensis
Inga pallida
Inga pauciflora
Inga pedunculata
Inga platyptera
Inga pleiogyna
Inga pluricarpellata
Inga portobellensis
Inga praegnans
Inga saffordiana
Inga salicifoliola
Inga saltensis
Inga santaremnensis
Inga sarayacuensis
Inga sellowiana
Inga silanchensis
Inga sinacae
Inga skutchii
Inga spiralis
Inga stenophylla
Inga suberosa
Inga suborbicularis
Inga tenuicalyx
Inga tenuiloba
Inga unica
Inga xinguensis
Inga yasuniana
Kola Nut (Cola attiensis)
Kola Nut (Cola boxiana)
Kola Nut (Cola bracteata)
Kola Nut (Cola cecidiifolia)
Kola Nut (Cola duparquetiana)
Kola Nut (Cola gigas)
Kola Nut (Cola glabra)
Kola Nut (Cola hypochrysea)
Kola Nut (Cola letestui)
Kola Nut (Cola lourougnonis)
Kola Nut (Cola lukei)
Kola Nut (Cola metallica)
Kola Nut (Cola mossambicensis)
Kola Nut (Cola nigerica)
Kola Nut (Cola octoloboides)
Kola Nut (Cola philipi-jonesii)
Kola Nut (Cola porphyrantha)
Kola Nut (Cola praeacuta)
Kola Nut (Cola reticulata)
Kola Nut (Cola scheffleri)
Kola Nut (Cola suboppositifolia)
Kola Nut (Cola umbratilis)
Lecythis barnebyi
Lecythis brancoensis
Lecythis parvifructa
Lecythis prancei
Lecythis schomburgkii
Lecythis schwackei
Licania chiriquiensis
Licania conferruminata
Licania fasciculata
Licania grandibracteata
Licania hedbergii
Licania longicuspidata
Licania megalophylla
Licania salicifolia
Licania vasquezii
Licania velutina
Litsea beddomei
Litsea claviflora
Litsea dilleniifolia
Litsea gardneri
Litsea glaberrima
Litsea gracilis
Litsea imbricata
Litsea iteodaphne
Litsea leiantha
Litsea leytensis
Litsea ligustrina
Litsea longifolia
Litsea nemoralis
Litsea nigrescens
Litsea scortechinii
Litsea travancorica
Mammea timorensis
Mammea usambarensis
Mammea veimauriensis
Mangifera altissima
Mangifera andamanica
Mangifera austro-indica
Mangifera blommesteinii
Mangifera campnospermoides
Mangifera casturi
Mangifera dewildei
Mangifera dongnaiensis
Mangifera flava
Mangifera macrocarpa
Mangifera minutifolia
Mangifera monandra
Mangifera nicobarica
Mangifera orophila
Mangifera pajang
Mangifera paludosa
Mangifera pedicellata
Mangifera pentandra
Mangifera rubropetala
Mangifera rufocostata
Mangifera similis
Mangifera sumbawaensis
Mangifera superba
Mangifera transversalis
Mangifera zeylanica
Manilkara Tree (Manilkara bella)
Manilkara Tree (Manilkara bolivarensis)
Manilkara Tree (Manilkara cavalcantei)
Manilkara Tree (Manilkara dardanoi)
Manilkara Tree (Manilkara decrescens)
Manilkara Tree (Manilkara elata)
Manilkara Tree (Manilkara excelsa)
Manilkara Tree (Manilkara excisa)
Manilkara Tree (Manilkara gonavensis)
Manilkara Tree (Manilkara kanosiensis)
Manilkara Tree (Manilkara longifolia)
Manilkara Tree (Manilkara maxima)
Manilkara Tree (Manilkara mayarensis)
Manilkara Tree (Manilkara multifida)
Manilkara Tree (Manilkara nicholsonii)
Manilkara Tree (Manilkara pleeana)
Manilkara Tree (Manilkara pubicarpa)
Manilkara Tree (Manilkara spectabilis)
Manilkara Tree (Manilkara valenzuelana)
Matisia alata
Matisia coloradorum
Matisia exalata
Matisia grandifolia
Matisia palenquiana
Matisia stenopetala
Mimusops acutifolia
Mimusops penduliflora
Mimusops riparia
Mimusops sechellarum
Mouriri completens
Mouriri laxiflora
Mouriri panamensis
Myrcia albobrunnea
Myrcia almasensis
Myrcia calcicola
Myrcia crassimarginata
Myrcia fasciata
Myrcia fosteri
Myrcia grandiflora
Myrcia lineata
Myrcia paganii
Myrcia pentagona
Myrcianthes callicoma
Myrcianthes irregularis
Myrcianthes oreophila
Myrcianthes pungens
Myrciaria cuspidata
Myrciaria pliniodes
Myrciaria silveirana
Nauclea diderrichii
Nauclea gageana
Nephelium costatum
Nephelium hamulatum
Nutmeg Tree (Myristica alba)
Nutmeg Tree (Myristica ampliata)
Nutmeg Tree (Myristica andamanica)
Nutmeg Tree (Myristica arfakensis)
Nutmeg Tree (Myristica atresens)
Nutmeg Tree (Myristica basilanica)
Nutmeg Tree (Myristica brachypoda)
Nutmeg Tree (Myristica brevistipes)
Nutmeg Tree (Myristica buchneriana)
Nutmeg Tree (Myristica byssacea)
Nutmeg Tree (Myristica ceylanica)
Nutmeg Tree (Myristica coacta)
Nutmeg Tree (Myristica colinridsdalei)
Nutmeg Tree (Myristica corticata)
Nutmeg Tree (Myristica dasycarpa)
Nutmeg Tree (Myristica devogelii)
Nutmeg Tree (Myristica extensa)
Nutmeg Tree (Myristica fasciculata)
Nutmeg Tree (Myristica fissurata)
Nutmeg Tree (Myristica flavovirens)
Nutmeg Tree (Myristica frugifera)
Nutmeg Tree (Myristica inaequalis)
Nutmeg Tree (Myristica incredibilis)
Nutmeg Tree (Myristica inundata)
Nutmeg Tree (Myristica kjellbergii)
Nutmeg Tree (Myristica lasiocarpa)
Nutmeg Tree (Myristica leptophylla)
Nutmeg Tree (Myristica longipetiolata)
Nutmeg Tree (Myristica magnifica)
Nutmeg Tree (Myristica malabarica)
Nutmeg Tree (Myristica mediterranea)
Nutmeg Tree (Myristica millepunctata)
Nutmeg Tree (Myristica nana)
Nutmeg Tree (Myristica olivacea)
Nutmeg Tree (Myristica ornata)
Nutmeg Tree (Myristica ovicarpa)
Nutmeg Tree (Myristica pachycarpidia)
Nutmeg Tree (Myristica papillatifolia)
Nutmeg Tree (Myristica perlaevis)
Nutmeg Tree (Myristica petiolata)
Nutmeg Tree (Myristica philippensis)
Nutmeg Tree (Myristica pilosella)
Nutmeg Tree (Myristica pilosigemma)
Nutmeg Tree (Myristica polyantha)
Nutmeg Tree (Myristica psilocarpa)
Nutmeg Tree (Myristica pubicarpa)
Nutmeg Tree (Myristica pygmaea)
Nutmeg Tree (Myristica robusta)
Nutmeg Tree (Myristica sarcantha)
Nutmeg Tree (Myristica schlechteri)
Nutmeg Tree (Myristica simulans)
Nutmeg Tree (Myristica sinclairii)
Nutmeg Tree (Myristica sogeriensis)
Nutmeg Tree (Myristica tamrauensis)
Nutmeg Tree (Myristica teijsmannii)
Nutmeg Tree (Myristica trianthera)
Nutmeg Tree (Myristica ultrabasica)
Nutmeg Tree (Myristica verruculosa)
Nutmeg Tree (Myristica yunnanensis)
Pandanus aldabraensis
Pandanus balfourii
Pandanus carmichaelii
Pandanus decastigma
Pandanus decipiens
Pandanus decumbens
Pandanus gabonensis
Pandanus halleorum
Pandanus hornei
Pandanus joskei
Pandanus kajui
Pandanus lacuum
Pandanus microcarpus
Pandanus multispicatus
Pandanus palustris
Pandanus petersii
Pandanus pyramidalis
Pandanus sechellarum
Pandanus taveuniensis
Pandanus thomensis
Pandanus verecundus
Parkia korom
Parkia parrii
Parkia parvifoliola
Passion Flower (Passiflora ampullacea)
Passion Flower (Passiflora andina)
Passion Flower (Passiflora anfracta)
Passion Flower (Passiflora brachyantha)
Passion Flower (Passiflora deltoifolia)
Passion Flower (Passiflora discophora)
Passion Flower (Passiflora eggersii)
Passion Flower (Passiflora harlingii)
Passion Flower (Passiflora hirtiflora)
Passion Flower (Passiflora jamesonii)
Passion Flower (Passiflora jatunsachensis)
Passion Flower (Passiflora linda)
Passion Flower (Passiflora loxensis)
Passion Flower (Passiflora luzmarina)
Passion Flower (Passiflora montana)
Passion Flower (Passiflora reflexiflora)
Passion Flower (Passiflora roseorum)
Passion Flower (Passiflora sanctae-barbarae)
Passion Flower (Passiflora sodiroi)
Passion Flower (Passiflora subpurpurea)
Passion Flower (Passiflora trochlearis)
Passion Flower (Passiflora zamorana)
Pepper Vine (Piper achupallasense)
Pepper Vine (Piper angamarcanum)
Pepper Vine (Piper azuaiense)
Pepper Vine (Piper baezanum)
Pepper Vine (Piper baezense)
Pepper Vine (Piper begoniiforme)
Pepper Vine (Piper brachipilum)
Pepper Vine (Piper brachystylum)
Pepper Vine (Piper bullatifolium)
Pepper Vine (Piper campii)
Pepper Vine (Piper chimborazoense)
Pepper Vine (Piper clathratum)
Pepper Vine (Piper coeloneurum)
Pepper Vine (Piper cutucuense)
Pepper Vine (Piper densiciliatum)
Pepper Vine (Piper diffundum)
Pepper Vine (Piper disparipilum)
Pepper Vine (Piper dodsonii)
Pepper Vine (Piper entradense)
Pepper Vine (Piper eriocladum)
Pepper Vine (Piper eustylum)
Pepper Vine (Piper fallenii)
Pepper Vine (Piper gualeanum)
Pepper Vine (Piper guayasanum)
Pepper Vine (Piper huigranum)
Pepper Vine (Piper hydrolapathum)
Pepper Vine (Piper hylebates)
Pepper Vine (Piper hylophilum)
Pepper Vine (Piper lineatipilosum)
Pepper Vine (Piper longicaudatum)
Pepper Vine (Piper manabinum)
Pepper Vine (Piper mendezense)
Pepper Vine (Piper mexiae)
Pepper Vine (Piper molliusculum)
Pepper Vine (Piper nanegalense)
Pepper Vine (Piper napo-pastazanum)
Pepper Vine (Piper nebuligaudens)
Pepper Vine (Piper perstrigosum)
Pepper Vine (Piper platylobum)
Pepper Vine (Piper poscitum)
Pepper Vine (Piper prietoi)
Pepper Vine (Piper productispicum)
Pepper Vine (Piper puyoense)
Pepper Vine (Piper regale)
Pepper Vine (Piper saloyanum)
Pepper Vine (Piper schuppii)
Pepper Vine (Piper seychellarum)
Pepper Vine (Piper skutchii)
Pepper Vine (Piper sodiroi)
Pepper Vine (Piper stipulosum)
Pepper Vine (Piper subaduncum)
Pepper Vine (Piper subnitidifolium)
Pepper Vine (Piper supernum)
Pepper Vine (Piper trachyphyllum)
Pepper Vine (Piper valladolidense)
Pepper Vine (Piper wibomii)
Pepper Vine (Piper zarumanum)
Persea brenesii
Persea bullata
Persea campii
Persea conferta
Persea floccosa
Persea glabra
Persea julianae
Persea liebmanni
Persea nudigemma
Persea obtusifolia
Persea philippinensis
Persea ruizii
Persea schiedeana
Pithecellobium gracile
Pithecellobium grisebachianum
Pithecellobium johansenii
Pithecellobium pithecolobioides
Pithecellobium savannarum
Pithecellobium saxosum
Pithecellobium stevensonii
Plinia rupestris
Pourouma oraria
Pourouma petiolulata
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria amapaensis)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria amygdalina)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria andarahiensis)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria arcuata)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria areolatifolia)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria arguacoensium)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria aristata)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria austin-smithii)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria bapeba)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria belizensis)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria benai)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria bonneriana)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria bracteata)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria brevensis)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria brevipedicellata)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria brevipetiolata)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria briocheoides)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria bullata)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria butyrocarpa)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria calistophylla)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria capacifolia)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria chiricana)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria cinnamomea)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria coelomatica)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria collina)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria congestifolia)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria contermina)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria crassiflora)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria cubensis)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria danikeri)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria decussata)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria espinae)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria euryphylla)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria exstaminodia)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria filiformis)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria fossicola)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria foveolata)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria fulva)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria furcata)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria gigantea)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria glauca)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria gracilis)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria hotteana)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria juruana)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria kaalaensis)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria kaieteurensis)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria krukovii)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria latianthera)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria leptopedicellata)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria longifolia)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria lucens)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria macahensis)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria macrocarpa)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria micrantha)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria microstrigosa)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria minima)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria moaensis)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria nemorosa)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria nudipetala)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria oppositifolia)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria oxypetala)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria pachycalyx)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria pachyphylla)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria pallens)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria pallida)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria penicillata)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria peruviensis)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria petiolata)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria pinifolia)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria pisquiensis)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria polysepala)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria psammophila)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria pseudoracemosa)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria puberula)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria pubescens)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria putamen-ovi)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria rhynchocarpa)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria rufotomentosa)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria semecarpifolia)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria sessilis)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria silvestris)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria sipapoensis)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria squamosa)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria subsessilifolia)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria tarumanensis)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria triplarifolia)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria vernicosa)
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria villamilii)
Prickly Pear (Opuntia chaffeyi)
Prickly Pear (Opuntia echios)
Prickly Pear (Opuntia galapageia)
Prickly Pear (Opuntia helleri)
Prickly Pear (Opuntia insularis)
Prickly Pear (Opuntia megarrhiza)
Prickly Pear (Opuntia megasperma)
Prickly Pear (Opuntia pachyrrhiza)
Prickly Pear (Opuntia saxicola)
Prickly Pear (Opuntia treleasei)
Prunus adenopoda
Prunus africana
Prunus carolinae
Prunus ceylanica
Prunus ernestii
Prunus geniculata
Prunus laxinervis
Prunus mirabilis
Prunus pulgarensis
Prunus ramburii
Prunus rubiginosa
Prunus subglabra
Prunus tadzhikistanica
Prunus taiwaniana
Prunus turfosa
Prunus villegasiana
Prunus walkeri
Psidium havanense
Psidium pedicellatum
Psidium rostratum
Psidium sintenisii
Quararibea aurantiocalyx
Quararibea dolichopoda
Quararibea dolichosiphon
Quararibea gomeziana
Quararibea jefensis
Quararibea pendula
Quararibea platyphylla
Quararibea pterocalyx
Quararibea sanblasensis
Quararibea santaritensis
Quararibea velutina
Quararibea yunckeri
Rollinia bahiensis
Rollinia boliviana
Rollinia calcarata
Rollinia chrysocarpa
Rollinia dolichopetala
Rollinia ecuadorensis
Rollinia ferruginea
Rollinia helosioides
Rollinia hispida
Rollinia occidentalis
Rollinia pachyantha
Rollinia pickelii
Solanum albornozii
Solanum asteropilodes
Solanum bellum
Solanum carchiense
Solanum chilliasense
Solanum chimborazense
Solanum dolichorhachis
Solanum drymophilum
Solanum exiguum
Solanum fortunense
Solanum hypermegethes
Solanum hypocalycosarcum
Solanum imbaburense
Solanum incompletum
Solanum interandinum
Solanum lanuginosum
Solanum leiophyllum
Solanum ovum-fringillae
Solanum paralum
Solanum regularifolium
Solanum roseum
Solanum sandwicense
Solanum semicoalitum
Solanum sibundoyense
Solanum sycocarpum
Souari Tree (Caryocar amygdaliforme)
Souari Tree (Caryocar coriaceum)
Souari Tree (Caryocar costaricense)
Sterculia schliebenii
Synsepalum aubrevillei
Synsepalum brenanii
Synsepalum glycydora
Synsepalum kassneri
Synsepalum subverticillatum
Synsepalum tsounkpe
Vaccinium bissei
Vaccinium whitmorei
Vangueria bicolor
Vitex acunae
Vitex ajugaeflora
Vitex amaniensis
Vitex cooperi
Vitex evoluta
Vitex gaumeri
Vitex keniensis
Vitex kuylenii
Vitex lehmbachii
Vitex parviflora
Vitex urceolata
Vitex yaundensis
Vitex zanzibarensis
Xylopia africana
Xylopia amplexicaulis
Xylopia ekmanii
Xylopia elliotii
Xylopia lamarckii
Xylopia latipetala
Xylopia longifolia
Xylopia pierrei
Xylopia richardii
Xylopia talbotii

Had to do this in 2 parts because of limitation of posting to 20,000 characters.
List of plants i took from this site that lists all endangered plants:

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: pink fleshed pear
« on: June 29, 2021, 08:16:54 PM »
Looks like it is crossed with (red flashed crab apple)
(yes I have Article explaining apple, and Pear (Pyrus) cross someplace
(easier for me right now to find (apple) Malus, and Sorbus though)
rowenberry AKA Whitebeam  (moluntain ash )(American Species )

I can dig for the found article of the OLD over 50 year old article if requested to though.

malus niedzwetzkyana

random links

Growing fruit Doesn't have a Appeal it should
I brought it up around college girls, and some guy got very Macho.

They need to make a Movie Where the main Character Takes care of His orchard,
and is a bad Ass that fights off the Mexican Mafia looking to exploit his profits through extortion  !

Keven Jones Is a Very Hollywood sounding type Name I'm sure You'd have cool factor then.
The Plot could use some working like Indiana Jones
where you go discover New fruits to introduce to the world ,
 and the Mexican Mafia is all in your head ,
 but that leaves out the bad ass aspect of it.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: 10 pack hurricane flashlights
« on: June 29, 2021, 01:31:26 PM »
Zands Did you write that

I should fly down that way to have you  help me buy a PC (consultation Fee?)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cloning Machines
« on: June 29, 2021, 07:49:04 AM »
Do you mean a bioreactor?

HAven't kept up with researching this stuff
 because if I am not going to use it ,
 not going to read up on it any more,
I have a Recipe for tissue culture stuff
 (it is very complicated  looking putting all those chemicals  together)

Saw this on a Bioreactor (not a fan of the BIO Tech stuff though)

Shows the gas exchange , and all that stuff

Tissue Culture (had a another  link PDF It appears that No longer works)

(I think it might be good to start a new topic eventually on tissue Culture.)

I am interested in this
I read it is used for Asian herbal tea's (medicine) more into trying the flavor.

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Blueberry planting site
« on: June 28, 2021, 02:40:55 PM »
Maybe it is the only spot he has

I think you should try for Highbush Blue berry
not because of heat just because it gets big , and you get a good amount of berries

also Being big Could deflect the heat, but they have blueberries in Florida (also Sparkle berry)

I would not worry about it , but really I do not know
seems pretty indestructable blue berries.

Some people are pretty crafty here
Could he place something to absorb the heat (heatsink) between the plant, and the Bush?
Maybe that ty vec styrofoam , but that might look getto (or that yellow foam from a mattress )

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: American black cherry
« on: June 28, 2021, 02:33:05 PM »
Oh the ones the size of a Pea we have those I can see a tree out my window.

WE also have a marble size fruit (tree) with sweet fruit but that is in Chicago (Logan Square)
I can not make promises on seeds of that,
but they lay on the ground
 so Could find them eventually if I do are you interested ?

Can denfinately get the pea size ones
Send your address (I do not like emailing back, and forth to much.)

the 3 foot tress are short lived these are quite a ways 25 miles
(Growing where I knew A woman Named Barb My Friend  that lived in the woods
very smart had many plants , heating, a kitchen, shower tent, Natural spring,
and cats that let her know of visitors  in Elgin Il.)

These seeds could be hard to get I forget when they ripen (3 foot native ones ) if your interested .

forgot for apples I heard people trim the branches high, and wrap sheet metal around trunk
Preventing them from Climbing.

I wonder if you could place a copper wire to touch when a animal climbs attached to a 9 volt battery
saw that for snails around plants,  and it fried them crisp. (may need bigger battery 12 volt._)

With excess fruit vint wine, and set out the spent fruit watch the squirrels be drunk
maybe they'd learn to only eat old fermented fruit rotting on the ground , but they are funny.

From Sun up to about sometime after  5 PM  I heard scratch noises
I thought A Squirrel was in my attic

No squirrel Scratched a hole all day into the side of the house
I got up , and saw him on the beam that holds the overhang (eves) of the roof

right before this post No Noise as soon as I clicked to type noise started back up
I do not want to(if I'm not going to eat it), but Cannot find my old BB gun (just had it,)..

MAybe He wants more fermented pulp.

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: cherries in san diego what?
« on: June 28, 2021, 10:26:58 AM »
So cal Maybe you should get a few native cherry seeds eventually graft yours onto them.

 prunus ilicifolia (holly leaf cherry )BAJA CA)desert
*link I saved 5 years ago (I like your plants like Ocean spray (in Apple/ rose family)
Of Nursery (note search does not work that great No results for Prunus(
(edit contact)

*random link with Native species  )

Other Varieties might still go extinct

Thank you for the link just skipped to the cultivars
B/C I already read it in the Drunken Botanist book Sometime back,
but it does not say they found any female only a male so that is news to me.

Only a few ancient varieties survive in family gardens, their fruits eaten fresh or sold locally and seasonally.

The environment here is desolate, the ground often strewn with plastic detritus from previous cultivations or other waste. The stench of burning plastic is everywhere. The plan of these agricultural entrepreneurs seems to be to buy land that has been recently planted or is in need of planting, to exploit it for at least a 30-year period and then leave it to its fate.

Also Dry Orthodox seeds can be kept for long dry (think Vegetable seeds, apple, persimmon etc. )
Recalcitrant seeds need to be kept wet
There Are Other types
 I ask if anyone has a list of what is Orthodox , and recalcitrant
so I do not have to keep looking with every new seed I want to store or grow.

A short one

most people who send tropical seeds routinely send them packed in some kind of damp medium.  they often germinate in transit and if all is well they arrive alive and well.  certainly this is usually the best way to do it.   but i have found that many tropical seeds which people consider recalcitrant can in fact be dried and stored.  here is a list of some of the seeds i have dried and stored for at least 2 months, in each case more than once, with good germination afterwards-
jakfruit, champedak, marang, pedalai
salacca affinis, wallichiana
baccaurea spp.
inga edulis
annona spp.
eugenia spp.
american garcinia spp.
some asian garcinia spp.
litsea garciae

being able to send and receive dried instead of germinating seeds is a big advantage to me.  because of the mail service here, my outgoing packages typically take 1-2 months to arrive, incoming 1-3 months.  germinated seeds usually die after that long in transit.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cloning Machines
« on: June 28, 2021, 06:02:48 AM »
I have been getting Emails from
Mike McGroarty for like 15+ years

He takes a Aquarium puts it upside down  takes scotch tape (or painters tape) makes stripes
paints it white removes tape so half is white , half is clear .

Places damp (brick laying) sand inside a container
 and places cutting inside that with glass aquarium over it. (in another of his examples_)

I use a Cardboard lid , and place a garbage bag over to retain heat inside
 but if you use plain card board the humidity will evaporate you will not see condensation build up inside

for cutting you would not want this to warm though.

Edit I saw earlier something more fun after your post ,
but why does it take 2 people to feed machine, and not a belt feeder haven't they figured it out.
(A Grafting Machine )

Tropical Vegetables and Other Edibles / Re: Edible "weeds"
« on: June 27, 2021, 06:39:20 AM »
Mostly Temperate , but saw this today when looking at persimmon beer recipe in email
already have a wine from them
(it is good, but oddly I liked the second tiny  batch better
 from spent fruit of first batch which is thinner and subtle Minerally tasting )
Plant profile

Wow didn't notice the Index will have to check out

The fruit is also fermented with hops, cornmeal or wheat bran into a sort of beer or made into brandy

Bull Thistle plan to peel some of these stems soon
Asparagus Relative stems have a celery taste with a tad bid astringency (which I like)
sometimes can have a grub in the hollow stem
(I cooked a grub under log at least those taste great like concentrated  fish)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My Favorite Insect
« on: June 27, 2021, 03:22:07 AM »
That link has what Lace wings link (under tachinid Fly article )
Does not let you copy/paste but  link below has a list as well
fern leaf yarrow
 poppy mallow
-- also dill
and fennel
for green lace wing bugs

(older link from Garden web getting rid of slugs )

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: American black cherry
« on: June 27, 2021, 02:18:32 AM »
Capulin is a sub-species of black Cherry and has had quite a few cultivars selected. At one point, the University of Florida hybridized Capulin and Florida black cherry.

BEing HUmid I am surprised they didn't use Carolina Cherries for breeding
or prunus serotina

we have some black cherries that are sweet, (wild (logan square in Chicago Neighborhood tree I've ate )
you could try making juice with the sour berries, that are wild
 but that does not answer your question sorry

Just use the wild berries , and dilute with gallons of water, and add a lot of sugar
I do this with wild grape (10 pounds , and 2 gallons of water ) but miss my window with cherries .
(edit Even store bought pure cherry juice at health food stores is super sour
I can add only a few ounces pure juice, and dilute with sugar , and a lot of water
(and those are cultivated sour cherries 
drinking it pure taste like lemon juice
although it is good for arthritis My Mom used it before for Pain in her Knees )
So why not do the same for Wild Cherries.

Nacking Cherry (prunus tomentosa  ) goes to zone 7 but do not know if it handles humid climates

How do the wild ones  taste anyways  if you've tried ?
One  of our native ones  trees are only 6 feet tall (or 2 metres )short lived tree's
 and Sand cherry only 1 to 2 feet tall.
Do the native ones by you grow small also ? we have big tree's as well.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My Favorite Insect
« on: June 27, 2021, 01:43:33 AM »
Brian Do you use Dr. Bronner's soap or just dawn?

Here is a Fly from Pawpaw fest
Cleaning pawpaw fruit I saw a blow fly, and after a long day it brought a smile to my face
 the blow flies pollinate the fruit ---
so I wonder how he knew to visit
(most were house flies except him.)

Here is a fly that kills Insects as well Tachinid fly
it lays it's eggs on insects so if you see white dots on them you know it is their eggs,
Things in the Carrot family attract the flies so having some weeds around might not be bad.

seeking  strong bug about 6 feet tall take care of pawpaw patch isn't afraid of ladders.

You already sell plants
Would you swap a tad bit of pollen off I'd buy.
To back cross to P. Incarnata

I am sending my address , in PM  ..

I thought Incarnata was a Different chromosome count
if this bears fruit I would be interested if the seeds sprout ..
(if you'd revisit to say later, but still interested now in pollen)

If the pollen didn't work out for me b/c of the genes
 I'd take the loss of cash, but would like to attempt.

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