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Citrus => Citrus General Discussion => Topic started by: Pandan on November 22, 2021, 08:54:58 AM

Title: Kumquat as rootstock?
Post by: Pandan on November 22, 2021, 08:54:58 AM
Hello all!

Basically I'm wondering if kumquat can be used as a rootstock for other citrus types and what problems or benefits could come from that? I can't find a lot of info off google


Froom my limited knowledge poncirus seems to be the go-to for mass compatibility so if compatibility is an issue could PT be can intergraft?
https://ucanr.edu/sites/ucceventura/files/57694.pdf
Title: Re: Kumquat as rootstock?
Post by: Millet on November 23, 2021, 02:56:40 PM
Why not make PT the only graft, instead using Kumquat as first graft and then PT as the interstock?
Title: Re: Kumquat as rootstock?
Post by: Pandan on November 23, 2021, 11:14:27 PM
Why not make PT the only graft, instead using Kumquat as first graft and then PT as the interstock?
Mostly asking if kumquats could serve as multi-grafted trees partly out of curiosity and also as someone who lives in a colder environment / small living space.
Title: Re: Kumquat as rootstock?
Post by: brian on November 24, 2021, 01:06:12 AM
Laaz on this forum has mentioned that 1) kumquats do well on their own roots despite "common knowledge" saying they don't and 2) fukushu kumquat makes a great rootstock (I don't know the details of this)

Anyway, because I have a surplus of kumquats and a shortage of flying dragon, I am growing out some fukushu seeds to try this. 
Title: Re: Kumquat as rootstock?
Post by: poncirsguy on November 24, 2021, 09:18:45 PM
Marumi kumquat makes excellent rootstock and is more dwarfing than FD.  I have none though
Title: Re: Kumquat as rootstock?
Post by: Pandan on November 24, 2021, 11:47:02 PM
So what I'm a little shockingly gathering from these two or three anecdotes are that kumquats are or can be good rootstock but are underutilized?  ;D

Marumi in particular is interesting to me given its a manageable size and hardiness, hopefully meiwa would function similarly
Title: Re: Kumquat as rootstock?
Post by: brian on November 25, 2021, 10:47:58 AM
I thought marumi was listed as being not true from seed?

Also, more dwarfing than FD would be a big surprise to me... do you have any links or books you can point me to with more information about this?

I have a fruiting marumi right now I have been eating fruit from for weeks.  It appears nearly identical to Fukushu, btw, except that Fukushu has a more pronounced "finger dimple" at the bottom of the fruit, and I've read fukushu is true to seed while marumi is not. 
Title: Re: Kumquat as rootstock?
Post by: Laaz on November 25, 2021, 10:53:39 AM
I never said they make good rootstock, I've never tried them as rootstock. I have a changshu I grew from seed that is over 25 ft tall & produces hundreds of fruit every year & never had a issue...
Title: Re: Kumquat as rootstock?
Post by: brian on November 25, 2021, 02:06:29 PM
oh, sorry, I must have misremembered