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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Passiflora incarnata
« on: September 18, 2021, 04:22:39 PM »
No, they do not pollinate the flowers. They just lay eggs on the leaves and the larvae eat them voraciously.
Here in the US m, carpenter/bumblebees pollinate them. (Not honey bees)

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Passiflora incarnata
« on: September 06, 2021, 09:23:59 AM »
Yes I would expect sun injury to take at least a couple seasons to manifest. It doesnít kill them quickly.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Passiflora incarnata
« on: September 05, 2021, 10:05:31 AM »
Yep! They are very susceptible to winter sun injury.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Passiflora incarnata
« on: September 04, 2021, 08:28:56 AM »
If you go back to 2020 or even 2019 I think I have a video just on incarnata (maypop) just FYI

thanks for the kind words!
Yes I paint the trunks with latex paint and (many of the branches) in late autumn or early winter.
I try to keep the paint off the buds but so far I havenít seen any problems.
I will probably not continue painting branches since the trees are so big now. Normally people only paint the trunks, but Iím a little eccentric 😁

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Passiflora incarnata
« on: September 03, 2021, 12:07:18 PM »
If you check back over my YouTube videos I think I did a maypop one last year, and you can see the white one.
Itís a known phenotype, not unique to me :)

If the seed is mature and fully formed (black with dimpled surface) then it should be viable and would cross pollinate, in my view.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Passiflora incarnata
« on: September 01, 2021, 08:54:46 PM »
Yes! A few more flowers that are open on the new vine have smooth ovaries. This will make it easier for me to distinguish between the two while hand pollinating next year. Hoping to have a lot more fruit set 🙂
Awesome!
So have you had mature fruits from this smooth vine yet? It will be interesting to see if they are unique in any other ways.
Sometimes small differences like this can portend larger ones - once I started several seeds and one came up with pure green stem while all the others had some redness. The green one turned out to be a white-flowered vine.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Passiflora incarnata
« on: September 01, 2021, 03:55:21 PM »
my other genetically distinct incarnata vine has ovaries that are smooth
new vine: smooth ovary (before pollinated, and after)


Hmm! Thatís an interesting observation - well done.
I donít recall ever seeing that on the many seedling vines I have, so now I will have to look out for it.
Assuming itís smooth on every flower?

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Passiflora incarnata
« on: August 29, 2021, 09:11:33 PM »
I need to smell bee pollen.
To me it smells like American sweetened breakfast cereal called Frosted Flakes (corn flakes with sweet coating).
Similarly someone who visited me and smelled for the first time said ďpopcorn.Ē
I donít think it smells like old lady perfume at all LOL To me that would mean soapy or rose/gardenia which is not at all like incarnata.
Of course arguing about something subjective like this is pointless  ::) ::)

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Drooping/Wilting new growth on pawpaw
« on: August 20, 2021, 04:56:55 PM »
I see you planted in the spring anyway but another secret to pawpaws is to plant in the spring.
Fall can work but the entire tree is dormant - If the roots are injured, disease can set in.
Conversely, if you plant in spring the tree is active and can defend itself if needed.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Drooping/Wilting new growth on pawpaw
« on: August 18, 2021, 03:16:50 PM »
For quality, selection, and availability you canít beat One Green World. They ship in container.
Peaceful Heritage also does, but they have a complicated ordering process and notoriously sell out instantly. To me itís not worth it.
Charles West out of New Jersey also sells in container.

Iíve had 3 trees from one green world and have been very pleased.

If youíre willing to travel, you could visit Hidden Springs Nursery in Cookeville TN and buy in container. Their trees have been very strong for me. But they SHIP bareroot.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Drooping/Wilting new growth on pawpaw
« on: August 17, 2021, 06:11:46 PM »
The other pawpaws you mentioned that are ok, were they also bareroot and planted at the same time?

The pics look about like the only 2 bareroot pawpaws I ever ordered. They died in a couple months.
I always tell folks never to order bareroot pawpaws. Not saying itís impossible but itís not a good investment.
I know that does little good for you now. I tried everything to save mine - shade, water, but nothing helped.
I would not fertilize any new tree the first year, so donít add any more ferts.
I would shade it and actually try to avoid watering it. My guess is the roots are stressed and cannot take up the water they normally would. More water may then lead to root rot.

Again, sorry.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Passiflora incarnata
« on: August 17, 2021, 06:01:08 PM »
Very nice looking vines!
Mine suffer from magnesium deficiency I believe, so by this time of year they look pretty rough. Fruit is still good though.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Drooping/Wilting new growth on pawpaw
« on: August 16, 2021, 02:39:30 PM »
Are the first couple pictures older than the last couple? Looks almost like a before and after but not sure.
Definitely something is wrong, unfortunately. They should not look like that.
Is this a seedling or grafted tree? When did you plant it? Was it previously in a container or was it purchased bare root?
How much water/rain has it been given?
Any fertilizer?

Those answers will help diagnose. Sorry for the struggle youíre having.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Passiflora incarnata
« on: August 14, 2021, 10:42:09 AM »
My understanding has always been that incarnata is not self pollinating. At least not if you want viable fruit and seeds (as opposed to empty fruit).

Obviously if there are wild Passiflora in oneís vicinity, the bees will likely have no problem cross pollinating.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: First madrono
« on: July 20, 2021, 11:31:40 AM »
Congratulations, Jay!
What an exercise in patience!

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Pawpaw grafting
« on: July 18, 2021, 07:22:35 PM »
Sure!
If you can shade them or do anything to keep them from getting crazy hot, that might be good.

Advice given to me by a pawpaw veteran and commercial grower is to graft in late spring or whenever high temps begin to steadily be in the 80s.
This has always proved successful for me. I jumped the gun one time and had poor results.

This same grower was in a similar boat as you this year and was grafting in the 90s.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Pawpaw grafting
« on: July 18, 2021, 05:34:31 PM »
Wish I could help you with specifics but Iíve never grafted this late.
They will probably take fine, but the concern might be hardening off before winter. Though not sure what part of Texas youíre in and whether you plan to keep them in a greenhouse or something.

If you have extra rootstock and are ok with possible failure I would go for it for sure.

I doubt anyone would tell you to definitely NOT do itÖ..

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit ID
« on: July 09, 2021, 08:23:42 AM »
never heard of Lakoocha :)
the fact you reported mango flavor may be a strike against the kwai muk theory...i've only had them once but would not have described them as mango-like at all. Closer to fig.

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Sounds great! Would love to try it but not if dem crazies bid it thru the roof!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit ID
« on: July 08, 2021, 04:16:14 PM »
I say Kwai muk.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dud Jackfruit??
« on: July 07, 2021, 08:42:17 PM »
Thanks for the info - I was previously aware of the green/young jackfruit product. Iíve seen them particularly at Indian markets. Theyíre usually much smaller than this 20 pound fruit I bought, but thatís not a sure sign Iím sure.
I cut this one tonight and actually itís pretty decent. Nice gold arils and good flavor. Not as sweet as some but definitely worth eating. So, allís well that ends well but I will be more careful next time.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dud Jackfruit??
« on: July 07, 2021, 12:00:22 PM »
Thank you Rob - no, I totally agree, and itís a crapshoot at best.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fresh Super Good Durian from Thailand
« on: July 07, 2021, 08:47:32 AM »
I canít believe a Monthong is better than a Musang King. I like the slight bitter aftertaste of the King. You are so lucky to have different grades of Durian. I canít believe the package even gives the firmness and sweetness levels. Thatís it, Iím moving to Australia!

Simon

Iím coming too. Need some durian. For a while I was finding great frozen seedless chunks but the market switched brands and the new stuff has melted and refrozen and is terrible.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dud Jackfruit??
« on: July 07, 2021, 08:45:38 AM »
Looks like it, some people buy green jackfruit as a meat substitute in recipes.
I only pick or buy them when their spikes become blunted

Yeah in past years I used to be able to find fruits like you described, but lately all I seem to see are green ones or rotten ones.
Itís a bummer. Used to find some great tasting jaks but itís been a long time.

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What an unspeakable tragedy.
I only wish Iíd gotten to know him. I had no idea he was a Vanderbilt student and thus very nearby.
I made the same pilgrimage to south Florida fruit destinations but so heartbreaking that his ended like this.
My heart goes out to his friends and family.

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