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Tropical Fruit Discussion / my plants forum/internet descendants.
« on: December 06, 2021, 06:28:06 PM »
hi i will upload some pictures of plants i've bought from you guys. this will also help me remember where i got them from.

Mike plants


Haysa and Makok seedlings.



Na Dai,Vietnamese Na Dai, Isan Indigo,Big Red,Thai Red #2,Thai Lessard sugar apples seedlings.

more soon.

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Where in Costa Rica are you located? I'm in Guanacaste, Tilarán.

i tried registering there ages ago but it won' let me

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherimoya or Atemoya - Plant id pls
« on: October 30, 2021, 05:51:06 PM »
the plant does look like cherimoya but the fruit doesn't look like a full cherimoya more like an atemoya. cherimoya fruit tends to be more flat,round and/or symmetrical. atemoya tends to be deformed and show some traces of the eyes/spikes kinda but you can tell it's not a full a.squamosa either.

Thanks for your response.  Is it possible for this to be a new type/ variety?

it's possible that the first fruit was simply deformed by insects or something and it ends up looking like an atemoya? it's a bit hard to tell from here. the other fruit pictures look quite different than the first

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: tamarind from seed
« on: October 30, 2021, 05:47:56 PM »
tamarind can be a big plant...probably difficult BUT there are some pictures of a "bonsai" at pinterest. is it true idk? https://www.pinterest.com/pin/791085490796287104/
then for example i will tell you that i have plants from stuff like wax apple grown from seeds about 10 years old no fruit...but from air layer i have one that has fruited many times. air layer is the way to go for smaller plants and if there is a dwarf variety?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherimoya or Atemoya - Plant id pls
« on: October 30, 2021, 02:41:27 PM »
the plant does look like cherimoya but the fruit doesn't look like a full cherimoya more like an atemoya. cherimoya fruit tends to be more flat,round and/or symmetrical. atemoya tends to be deformed and show some traces of the eyes/spikes kinda but you can tell it's not a full a.squamosa either.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help with plant id
« on: October 30, 2021, 02:30:58 PM »
possible yes probably tamarind if you planted that.
possible phyllanthus emblica=indian gooseberry
possible phyllanthus spp.
possible something in the bean family

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pitangatuba
« on: October 29, 2021, 08:29:44 AM »
hmm what is this white mold?  did you spray it with something or is it powdery mildew?

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hi, you can start by looking for fruit at local markets and supermarkets then grow those from seed and try to wiki the species and learn about the plant. then you can visit your local botanic parks and they will have many plants for cheap and information. after this talk to other collectors in thailand and get what you can there. after this keep reading the forum.

you can read for example this database is how i got started...simply reading from seed selling sites databases(i am not selling anything)
https://www.tradewindsfruit.com/content/fruitsscientific.htm
https://toptropicals.com/
http://www.fruitlovers.com

start with those then try to figure out plants by their family and with time you will remember their scientific names. with this and time you will be able to find out a lot more about rare fruits then you try to get the seeds or plants :)
there's also books but i will let someone else tell you about that because i don't have any.

btw there's supposed to be tropical fruiting litchi varieties in thailand, i would love to get one of these or seeds.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Starfruit- Anyone Growing It ?
« on: October 27, 2021, 09:27:34 PM »
i have a tree grown from supermarket fruit years ago. seedling was in a bag then forgot about..a worker pulled the seedling and threw it away then it grew back from the roots. it produces lot of large fruit and very sweet  :) it's more fruit than we can use so when it falls to the ground i use it for compost.

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fungal or burn/cold....but since you say it rained a lot probably fungal.
if this is an indian variety they are more/a lot more susceptible to wet climate than the south east asian ones.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Selling: some germinated seeds
« on: October 23, 2021, 02:30:19 PM »
to germinate the red ones from the supermarket what i did was
1-remove all pulp. even with a knife if i had to.
2-germinated them in a paper towel inside a slightly open bag indoors.
3-all that i tried to germinate in soil or with pulp did rot very fast.
4-i water them with drinking water+few drops of honey
5-transfer to separate vases
6-transfer to 1 or 2 gallon pots after a few leaves or they will dry up very fast.
7-tropical climate helps. these are ultra tropical.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Bellamytrees.com
« on: October 20, 2021, 03:39:14 PM »
I also had a problem with the checkout

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wax apple was my favorite fruit before i tasted cherimoya  :)

i had about 5 of these grown from seed and 1 air layer sold to me. So after many years all were kept in 15 gallon containers...the ones grown from seed never did flower or fruit. after 10 years only kept 1 of these plants while the air layered one has fruited heavily many times. problem it only fruits like around may and then it's over for the year. can't remember if it fruited twice per year sometimes.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Bellamytrees.com
« on: October 20, 2021, 11:40:49 AM »
that's some nice stuff you got there. i'm curious what is blue pitanga? a variety, eugenia species or m.vexator?

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Taste of eugenias
« on: October 19, 2021, 01:19:09 PM »
https://www.growables.org/information/TropicalFruit/capulin.htm

capulin cherries...this is a subtropical species of real cherries. in the genus prunus :)
this one doesn't need cold just shorter days to trigger flowering...then there's a few other species from florida and california that should be able to fruit there.

then you have some low chill cherry varieties that might fruit there
https://askthegreengenie.com/fruit-trees/low-chill-cherries/

there's some other tropical fruit called cherries...jamaican cherry that is also called capulin but it's muntingia calabura
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muntingia

for eugenia well there's really a lot of them...some taste quite good but a lot are straight up very "wild" plants and are eaten more by birds than humans.

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Melicoccus bijugatus(quenepa/mamoncillo/limoncillo) is more common. central america,caribbean,south america. these are a bit sweet-sour and the pulp sticks to the seed. they are dioecious i believe. but there's different named varieties that have both flowers so you would only need one tree. you can find seeds or plants of this online.



talisia oliviformis(guaya/cotoperiz) these are from mexico and are harder to find. you can get a plant from mexico but it's expensive. the pulp doesn't stick to the seed i believe. these first two can be confused and even many people in latin america won't know the difference.

there's another one from brazil called talisia esculenta(pitomba) these are really tasty and look different. the fruit looks brown-orange ish. the leaves are clearly different from the other two. However they do hybridize with t.oliviformis. so when you get one of these last two you might get a different degree of t.oliviformis or t.esculenta.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Selling: some germinated seeds
« on: October 17, 2021, 08:00:48 AM »
very good quality package and seeds

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Selling: some germinated seeds
« on: October 08, 2021, 09:53:36 PM »
how long would these in the baggie before they rot?

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Rare Annona seed pack - Limited
« on: September 25, 2021, 02:07:25 PM »
i am interested sir. pm sent.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: New Plant Identification
« on: September 21, 2021, 06:57:15 PM »
the new growth looks like malay apple but these leaves are a bit pale, thinner and slightly  different. maybe sunburn?

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a.reticulata with a somewhat rare color...a lot of these are red/red ish

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Supposedly Talisia Sylvatica tree and fruit?
« on: September 18, 2021, 08:55:18 PM »
https://collections.nmnh.si.edu/media/?irn=15403683
should be this one but i can't find pics of the fresh fruit online.

tell you what dry some leaves and fruit so if it all looks like this then you got it.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Supposedly Talisia Sylvatica tree and fruit?
« on: September 18, 2021, 08:32:59 PM »
what you have there does look like a wild talisia to me.
like if you check these two and compare.

https://stricollections.org/portal/taxa/index.php?taxon=70200&clid=64
https://plantidtools.fieldmuseum.org/es/nlp/catalogue/3822626

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is this a stupid question?
« on: September 11, 2021, 12:19:10 PM »
they are simply "vulgar" or common names so that's how fruits are described to common people or even before scientific names were a thing...you see in different villages people will make up different names for fruits or other things.also because apple is the most common famous fruit from europe it was easy to use this word. we can see that for other types of fruits in america the natives used the word sapote that means soft edible fruit...but so many unrelated fruit now are known as sapote.

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