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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: PuertoRicoFoodForest Fresh Fruits
« on: December 08, 2021, 06:04:47 PM »
I simply gave my opinion, I did not complain. I could buy the fruit if I wanted but I wouldnít, as Iíve had my fill in their native regions. There are others who sell the same fruits , frozen, at a more reasonable price. Some of you people are insane


I don't know about you, but no one wants to eat mush. Fresh is the best! Most of the fruit offered on the website are rare and hard to find, you can't get them at a regular store. Even if you could, the taste and texture is altered by freezing.

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Hello bovine421,


Brassinolide enhances cold stress tolerance of fruit by regulating plasma membrane proteins and lipids with 10 μM brassinolide (BL) showed a higher tolerance to cold temperature of 5 įC.

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs00726-012-1327-6


These hormones control the division, elongation and differentiation of various cell types throughout the entire plant life cycle.

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10725-020-00647-8

Further reading:
https://bp.ueb.cas.cz/pdfs/bpl/2018/04/01.pdf
Interesting read.
Thanks for posting these articles!

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If you can keep them on vermiculite with a little water that should be fine and maybe even germinate along the way,

I can send a little $$ to buy a bag of vermiculite if needed-

P.S. good luck with the final
Thanks!
No worries on the money,
that was why I included the extra $7 in the fee -
Just ordered some.

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Just wanted to give a quick update.
Just had the first final and I feel great about it. Thanks for the support!
Anyway,
The main reason is to update you guys that seller will ship no later than next Wednesday. I expect the seeds to arrive in about 2 weeks (around a week and a half from Brazil then another couple of days to me). So the seeds will arrive around Christmas? Not a good time still trying to figure out what is best. USPS is already screwing up my packages. Little worried about the seeds taking more time when I ship to you.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Prioritizing Fruit
« on: December 03, 2021, 06:17:03 PM »
This is probably the weirdest post I've seen on the site, but, go on.
;D

Fruit is extremely subjective. I don't think this would really work. Most of us here love ALL fruit. I deeply enjoy a plum just the same way I deeply enjoy a durian.
Your next door neighbor asks you for fruit tree suggestions... you're going to tell him to just flip a coin?  My Filipino neighbor loved my lemon guava so I gave him a few volunteers.  He also tried my Surinam cherry but wasn't interested in any seedlings.  My Costa Rica neighbor also wanted a lemon guava volunteer.  She adamantly refuses to even try my Surinam cherry because her mom told her that they are poisonous.   ???

How you would divide your limited dollars/donations among all the different fruits would reveal how you want your neighbors to divide their limited garden space among all the different fruits. 

I am open to donating to TFF, but I don't need it to anything but fund the servers and the work that people put in to maintaining the website back end.
Participating in the rankings would be completely voluntarily.  If you didn't see any room for improvement, then naturally you wouldn't participate.  But I'm pretty sure that most people wouldn't 100% agree with the rankings. 

A couple months ago I bought and planted an achacha based on one Youtube review and the vendor telling me that it can be grown outdoors here in the Los Angeles area.   Since then I read on a forum (here?) several members saying that there wasn't enough flesh to warrant planting it.  Maybe I should have done a better job doing my homework?  Well... yeah, probably.  But the fact is that information about this fruit is distributed among 100s or perhaps 1000s of people.  The most important information that these people have is their valuation of this fruit, which we would all have very convenient access to, if they were able to use their donations to rank it. 

Can you guess how highly achacha would be ranked?  Can you guess how intensely people want their neighbors to plant achachas?
Like stated above, fruit is subjective and you should go by your own opinion instead of relying on others. Achacha has a good flesh to seed ratio for garcinias and the fruit is good enough to go into my top 10 list. Does it matter to you? No. Fruit is subjective and you need to try for yourself first before getting the tree if you are serious enough. Granted, I buy a lot of trees without tasting the fruit. Some are rare and have not been fruited in the US before. Others are too hard to find the fruit. So what? I grow trees cause they are cool, fruit is a product of me taking care of my trees. While fruit is why people grow trees, the process of growing fruit is part of it too.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Prioritizing Fruit
« on: December 03, 2021, 02:44:47 PM »
Jackfruit and yellow dragonfruit are incredibly common in supermarkets in todayís age. For example Sams started carrying yellow dragon fruit and I have seen jackfruit at Publix. Iím glad you like those fruits, but most of what you get at the market is no where near compared to fresh fruit off the tree. For example most jaks from the store are sappy and mushy - not good, but last summer when I went to FL I was able to try 3 varieties of jackfruit which were super good. If you really want to try good tropical fruits, I suggest going to FL (actually anywhere tropical like PR etc.)during fruit season. Donít go by opinion of others regarding fruit. Just go and taste for yourself. I have tasted lots of different fruits and my favorites are no where near other peoples favorites.


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Thanks for the replies, i will buy one or two next week, hopefully they get softer and i am able to pick the ripest ones from the pach.
Last year i did not had any succes with the seeds, i even had one that had germinated and had roots, yet still it molded and rotted. I used peat moss and soil also, same story.....

Mameys that are picked under ripe will soften up and can taste good, but they will never ever taste as good as one picked ripe from the tree. To tell if a mamey is ripe you can scratch it like you did. Problem with that is even the store bought mameys, when soft, tend to show an orange color even if they were scratched a week ago and showed a green color. it is not the same as fresh off the tree. Anyway, I have gotten high germination rates on ones from the store, wouldn't hurt to try.

Jaboticaba45 did u plant them whole ,i mean with the shell, or u pry it open and planted only the embrio ?? Thanks!
Just threw them in whole. Some were germinating with roots when I took them out of the fruit.

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Good morning all,
Thanks for paying quickly.
I just sent the money to the seller. Will get back to you with more information when needed.

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Mameys that are picked under ripe will soften up and can taste good, but they will never ever taste as good as one picked ripe from the tree. To tell if a mamey is ripe you can scratch it like you did. Problem with that is even the store bought mameys, when soft, tend to show an orange color even if they were scratched a week ago and showed a green color. it is not the same as fresh off the tree. Anyway, I have gotten high germination rates on ones from the store, wouldn't hurt to try.

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Thanks everyone for being quick to pay. Just waiting on 1 more person. Trying to pay asap - 2 of the seeds have already gone out of season. Luckily they were replaced with some similar stuff. (If this happened to you, you would have been notified.)


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Thanks to the 3 people who already paid. Hoping everyone could pay before the weekend so I can pay seller soon.

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Yeah totally understand,
I figured that an extra $7 is fair to cover my time and shipping supplies.
Hard to calculate the price and worth of your time this far in.
I just sent out pms regarding payment. Here is how it was calculated
Cost of seeds
Price of phyto, shipping, and his paypal fee (added up and divided by 7)
Price of my time and shipping
And paypal fee*

Let me know of any questions or concerns.
Best,
Ryan

The seven of us order a collective total of 602 seeds. :)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: what to do if U.S. Customs has it ???
« on: December 01, 2021, 01:28:43 PM »
If you didnít use a permit, right now they are throwing your seeds into the incinerator. Then they ship you the envelope with a piece of paper.

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I just sent out pms regarding payment. Here is how it was calculated
Cost of seeds
Price of phyto, shipping, and his paypal fee (added up and divided by 7)
Price of my time and shipping
And paypal fee*

Let me know of any questions or concerns.
Best,
Ryan

The seven of us order a collective total of 602 seeds. :)

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Seller just got back to me with quote, prices are good. Will send out a pm to those on the order with payment details later today. Thanks for your time!

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Based on my observations, chempejack is more cold tolerant than chempedak. Not too sure how it compare to jackfruit, but you probably couldn't fruit it in LA without some protection. Definitely would get damaged when temps dip below freezing. I was able to taste a fruit in FL last summer, and it tasted just like a jackfruit, and it didn't have too much latex, much less than a jackfruit. One of the best jackfruits ever. I've seen the trees kept at heights of around 15 feet with proper pruning.

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Also, these are easily rooted from cuttings. Way easier than seed.

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What do the fruit taste like?

Kevin
Cotton candy!

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I just sent out our order to seller.
I again apologize to everyone who didn't make the order. Especially sorry for Satya's group. But am glad that you are planning to do an order and hopefully can get more people in and spread some seed out! I wish the best to you all.
Best,
Ryan

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So I updated the lists with the total amount of seeds. You can view it here to see that I am being fair. People with the most species is who gets on. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Olxdd_ZJ2tWz6y7y1KlPma_9nXOJEjcjiyVdti85yI4/edit
1. Elouicious - 12 total species Paid
2. Shmojojojo - 8 total species Paid
3. Man v fruit - 8 total species Paid
4. ShilohTech -  7 total species Paid
5. Nissan Versa - 6 total species
6. Brian Laufer - 6 total species
5. Saltwater Tx - 6 total species
6. Paraponera - 6 total species
7. Jaboticaba 45 - ? total species Paid


As you can see, there are still too many people, so I had to eliminate 2 people who had 6 species total
I have to be unbiased, so I decided that whoever messaged me first will get to stay on. That being said, Paraponera and Saltwater Tx are on the order while Brain and Nissan got eliminated. I made sure to check my pms to see who messaged me first. No bias. I wish I could include everyone, but with finals coming up, that is not possible. Even then, I am adding 1 extra person (7vs.6).I am sure people can form their own side groups as shmojojojo mentioned, so all is not lost if you want to do your own order.


For those on the order, I will let seller know tomorrow what we will buy. Expect a pm discussing payment in a few days.
Have a great rest of the weekend,
Ryan

Edit: Originally was going to have 6 total people, but it changed to 7 - I decided to have a last chance qualifier to decide which of the people order 6 seeds could get on as I felt like they all had equal chance of getting on order. Person who made it was saltwaterTx. As he was the 2nd one to pm me about the order.

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Iíve decided to cut back on this order. Capping it at 6 people total including me. To decide who makes the cut, the individuals ordering the most seeds will make the cut. Hereís why I have cut back - to reduce middle men, keep the order easier to organizeÖWill send out a pm to people and will update who is on the lists. I originally wanted to cap at 10 but look at the list we have around 20. By capping at 6, it allows me to ship out to you people and not rely on others, also it is easier. Adding anymore people to the order just makes it too hard to keep track of and the discounts are outweighed by the time. The deadline for changing your order is done, to keep things fair I will not let anyone change their order to get on the order. I feel bad and want to not be biased. I feel like this is fair for everyone. Once again, I apologize for this update, and also apologize for your guys time. At least we didnít start the payment stage then change. I hope you guys understand why I am doing this.
Best,
Ryan

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I updated the lists. Please view before I send to seller to calculate total cost. PLEASE VIEW THE ORDER BEFORE I GO TO SELLER ONCE I GO TO SELLER AND THE ORDER IS DONE< NO CHANGING SEEDS
This order is way bigger than I thought. Ideally I would like it to be 4-5 people, but hey once you start something....
Anyways, if the fees we need to pay is outrageously high due to lots of seeds and lots of different species of seeds being ordered, I might call the order off. I feel like it is best to do 4-5 people. After seeing the list, looks like we are getting over 40 species :blank: . Anyways, I'll get back to you guys to discuss payment strategies. Also, to make the order easier, I am having 1 person in charge of shipping the packages out from places. For example, there are several people in the order in CA, TX, and FL. I have already got 1 person in CA who will get the seeds from me then distribute to the people in CA. If you live in TX or FL and want to help out and make my life easier, Please pm me. This already is starting to feel crazy and I haven't even done finals yet ::) ::) ::) ::) . Wish you all a good weekend,
Best,
Ryan

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Order is closed for new people. If you have sent me a pm before now, you can be on the list, I will need your order by the 27th.
Here is the google doc with whats happening:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Olxdd_ZJ2tWz6y7y1KlPma_9nXOJEjcjiyVdti85yI4/edit

The list also lists how much you need to pay for the seeds, it does not include the shipping and other fees, so payment will not begin until calculated by seller in a couple of days

I hope I have not bitten off more than I can chew, I will need everyone's cooperation to make this a success. Please stay tuned for payment info in the next week.


Please go over your order and make sure you are ok with what you are going to pay. I do not want anyone to back out cause of price after I get quote from seller.

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I'm capping the order at 10 people, Seeds being bought are a lot so...First come, first serve, You are allowed to join after 10 if I had told you previously you could join. I'm going to get everything sorted out tonight....

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Iím going to update the list of people. Keep in mind that the order is first come first serve. I will also update with ESTIMATED total prices so you can plan on what you will need to pay. You can view the list via the Google docs in the first part of this thread. I plan for only 15 people. If I have more than 15 people interested, whoever sent the pm first will get in the order. Also amount of seeds purchased will determine also.

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