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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / WTB Grafted Mamey Sapote and Black Sapote scions
« on: September 18, 2023, 09:25:36 PM »
Looking for Magana and Key West if possible
Dan
Dan
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Both of my grandparents, and several of their friends that lived in Guam for a period of time on the base developed Parkinsonism/PSP. None of them were genetically related. My relatives never knowingly consumed pawpaw or annona fruits. We did a fair bit of research regarding cause when my second grandparent was diagnosed and it seems like it would be very difficult to unwind all of the potential causes. I'd be curious too, and I haven't looked, but about the overall increase in instances of Parkinsonism across the world and its territories and how much could be assigned to better testing, more awareness, or just overall greater case load. (before demonizing pawpaw)
Parkinsons in Guam is suspected to be linked to consumption of cycad-eating bats. But on-base it could be so many other things, as you say. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lytico-bodig_disease
Yeah, I'd also heard about pesticides as a likely cause of parkinsonism. They sprayed chemicals every night for hours at a time to control mosquitos and bugs. My mother and all of the other kids on base vividly would recall the smoke-show and how it would hang around for hours and hours at a time. Many of the houses did not have air conditioning and had to have their windows open during the spraying.
Daniel
fwiw i think these seeds are not recalcitrant, Asimina triloba usually sprout the year after I plant them
There is a similar Parkinsons type syndrome in Guam and other Islands.
It was first linked to Cycad seed consumption, then Fruit Bat Consumption, then consumption of Fruit Bats that eat Cycad seeds.
Guadeloupe has a unique population, founded on imported slaves. There could be inherited factors in the Parkinsons syndrome, but as I remember from when this topic came up on another fruit forum, the studies didn't show family member inheritance.
They did seem to have low samples of patient numbers.
It would be interesting to note if the same type of Parkinsons syndrome appears in other Annona fruit eating countries.
They must also be heavily consumed elsewhere in South America, Caribbean etc.
Soursop drinks are pretty popular in SE Asia, Phillipines, etc. Canned versions are available at my local supermarket and Asian grocery.
The birds love these and I get seedlings fairly often. I have a few trees with some fruit right now I believe, but not certain how to prep and ship the seed or I’d be more than happy to. If you know how, let me know, I can save and send you some.