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Received the seeds today in great order-

Thanks for coordinating all of this Ryan-

Cheers
I'm glad they arrived in good condition. Keep us updated on what successes you have!

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With the exception of one package, I put all the packages in the mail today.
Please let me know how they arrive and let me know if you need help IDing anything.
Best,
Ryan

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Ok so I sorted everything out with the seller. Every seed made it. Even the angustissima.
Here is the list so you can sort out what you got. Some were mislabeled and couldn't be ID without the number. For example the angustissima was sent as annona vepretorum. Whether this was to pass customs or such I don't know. Check the numbers on the seed bags to see what seed it is.
I wouldn't mind buying from him again in the future.  :)

01 - 11 packages

01 Annona salzmanii
02 Annona coriacea
03 Mouriri pusa
04 Plinia nana
05 Pouteria butirocarpa
06 Pouteria torta
07 psidium mirtoides
08 goiaba roxa
09 Psidium sp. araÁa amarelo da caatinga
10 Campomanesia xantocarpa
11 Campomanesia adamantium

02 - 08 packages

01 jabuticaba de cruz
02 Plinia nana
03 Plinia coronata minor
04 jabuticaba cabacinha
05 Eugenia sulcatta
06 Campomanesia adamantium vermelha
07 Goiaba folhas de samambaia
08 Psidium pulcherrimum

03 - 08 packages

01 Annona coriacea gigante
02 Annona spinescens
03 Eugenia sulcatta
04 Bacupari BH
05 Mouriri cearensis
06 Mouriri pusa
07 Mouriri sp. puÁŠ amarelo gigante
08 Plinia nana

04 06 packages

01 Jabuticaba de cruz
02 jabuticaba de cabinho gigante
03 Plinia coronata olho de boi
04 jabuticaba olho de boi
05 jabuticaba dona gal
06 jabuticaba de cabinho grosso

05 - 06 packages

01 Plinia coronata da restinga
02 jabuticaba gigante de listra
03 Plinia trunciflora
04 Plinia coronata olho de boi
05 Plinia enrrugada
06 Myrciaria dubia

06 - 06 packages

01 Eugenia angustissima vermelha
02 Campomanesia adamantium
03 Mouriri cearensis
04 Goiaba roxa
05 Plinia nana
06 Psidium pulcherrimum

07 - 08 packages

01 Plinia nana
02 Eugenia sulcatta
03 Plinia enrrugada
04 Plinia coronata aÁu
05 Eugenia piriformis gigante
06 Jabuticaba hibrida vermelha
07 Annona monticola
08 Pouteria butirocarpa

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: White Sapote for South Florida
« on: January 16, 2022, 08:30:23 PM »
I got a Redlands from PIN couple years back.
Fruit tasted good, but not much complex flavor? Just sweet like the others I have tried. I think the tree needs to fruit more before I can say my opinion on it.

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Awesome! I would be down to get a couple more species from Andre as well if he has anything else new. Customs would have made a note of it if they took them...even if to was for their secret garden. You joke about that, but I have seen 19 year servicemembers throw their retirement away for less. You can retire at 20 years of active service in the military.
Your're right, it is customs job to inspect the seeds and determine whether we get them or they go into the incinerator. Without them, our nation's agriculture would be in danger as foreign pests could potentially bring havoc.

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Ok so the seller responded, and I am getting everything sorted out. Once I send him pictures and proof of what is missing, it looks like he'll either resend or refund. If he resends, I wouldn't mind ordering more seeds if he has some cool things available...but of course we'll have to see what happens. And stuff... Cool cool. Cheers! Also there is a chance he sent everything, but customs took the seeds. Can't tell for sure, but customs may have took the e.angustissima so they could expand their secret garden.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Grafting Che to Mulberry
« on: January 15, 2022, 11:59:28 PM »
If anyone is interested in some cuttings of osage orange, I have access to a dormant tree.

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I got my package and the insects were deemed to be of no concern. 

They destroyed 2 packages of Eugenias that I had that had germinated, although I had gotten packages of Mouriri that were SUPER germinated and they had no issue.  I'm pretty sure Eugenias require the next level plant importation certificate while, Mouriri, which is unlisted is permissable to be imported in with the seed permits.   Not entirely sure, but I'm gonna find out.
Interesting...
all of our eugenias came, even though all were starting to germinate.
Edit: we only ordered 2 types of eugenias - e.sulcatta, and e.pyriformis

Everything but the E. angustissima... The wound is still fresh. Lol
Totally forgot about them - was just counting the seeds I could see. :P
Iíve contacted seller and he just need to respondÖ. Looks promising.

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I got my package and the insects were deemed to be of no concern. 

They destroyed 2 packages of Eugenias that I had that had germinated, although I had gotten packages of Mouriri that were SUPER germinated and they had no issue.  I'm pretty sure Eugenias require the next level plant importation certificate while, Mouriri, which is unlisted is permissable to be imported in with the seed permits.   Not entirely sure, but I'm gonna find out.
Interesting...
all of our eugenias came, even though all were starting to germinate.
Edit: we only ordered 2 types of eugenias - e.sulcatta, and e.pyriformis

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I've sorted out everything based on the best of my abilities. I'll ship on Tuesday. Hopefully seller will respond and give refund for the ~$300 loss. Sucks that most of that loss was on 1 person, not distributed among everyone.

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Seeds are here! Unfortunately, we are missing some stuff, and all the psidiums are listed as psidium sp. so I have no way to tell them apart. I'll contact seller and ask, although how is he to remember??? I'll try to id based off of number bought.
Also,
some other seeds are not named...Seller originally had each person's order in a separate bag, but customs just took them out and threw them into a huge pile...

Andre mixed my seeds and then we went back and forth sorting them out. He mixes large and small seeds, or oval + spherical in the same pouch so it's usually pretty easy to tell apart. He'll help you out via whatsapp
Iíve contacted seller about thisÖ he labeled most of the bags, but the problem is they are not descriptive. Some looked to be mislabeled like annona vepretorum. No one ordered it and the seeds donít look annonaey to me they look like a plinia. And labeling seeds plinia cauliflora sp. is confusing. But most look well labeled-well enough to tell what it is. Something like plinia sp jabuticaba de cruz was labeled as plinia cauliflora cruz. I hate growing things that are mislabeled, and I would feel bad selling them or propagating them. Luckily I have a positive ID on around 90 percent of the seeds. Would feel bad spreading around fake species to all. There are numbers on the bags, but donít seem to help at all. Numbers donít correspond to order numbers and seed quantity. I think it was maybe written by customs or something.

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Seeds are here! Unfortunately, we are missing some stuff, and all the psidiums are listed as psidium sp. so I have no way to tell them apart. I'll contact seller and ask, although how is he to remember??? I'll try to id based off of number bought.
Also,
some other seeds are not named...Seller originally had each person's order in a separate bag, but customs just took them out and threw them into a huge pile...

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Interesting question -
For mangoes and lychee, they normally flower when the weather warms up (March), but it varies by the year. Couple years ago I had my mango flower in may and February. Most of my trees that bloom do so when there is a change in the weather or during the summer.
I think I'm about 1-3 months behind the people in FL regarding when fruit ripens.

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So the seeds are arriving tomorrow...Does it sound better to ship tomorrow, or ship on Tuesday? Just realized that Monday is a holiday so post office will be closed. Either the seeds can spend the weekend at my place or at the post office...Colder temps are coming in the weekend, so even though the seeds will be fine at the shipping place, it might be better to wait just in case (only time they get damaged is when left out after delivery)? Also, we seem to be missing around 40 seeds based on what the seller sent in the invoice, I need to contact the seller to sort it out.For instance 2 people ordered the same species (10 each) but only receiving 10 total seeds. I wouldn't mind shipping all to 1 person and give the other a refund or split them both? When talking with someone else, they said split the seeds in the case we don't get a refund. But some seeds have germinated and will be hard to split...Wouldn't want to damage the sprouts. Thoughts? Anyways, it's a small amount of seeds so I hope we all are content and no hard feelings involved. I'll do my best to be fair. I know we all are anxious to get our seeds so I'll probably ship tomorrow as cold shouldn't and isn't a factor based on what I have heard from others.

This order wouldn't have been possible without the help of several people. I was able to get great advice and help from them. You know who you are, thanks a lot! I again apologize to the people who didn't get on the order...lesson learned. May consider doing another order in the near future, and I know it will go much smoother knowing my limits.

For those in the order, I hope we can have success growing these species and spread them around to other growers in the future!
Best,
Ryan

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I got everything ready for shipping. Will send out first thing next Monday based on tracking. If not, it will be earlier.
Nattyfrootz, good luck with your order. Wishing the best in clearing customs!

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Wow! Things looking good. Contacted dhl and was told the package was to be held again by customs for another 1-2 weeks...Looks like it's the opposite...Package should be arriving any day now! Maybe 1-2 days until the forwarder gets it! Of course there is a chance things go wrong or tracking is messed up...

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SOLD
$32 including shipping for all of these.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Regrown variegated seedlings
« on: January 08, 2022, 07:53:25 PM »
Some trees start out variegated, but lose it after some time. Happened to the variegated mango and lychee I had come up.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Avocado scions
« on: January 07, 2022, 08:00:16 PM »
Thanks for the scions, Brad! They arrived in great shape. Got my trees grafted up today. Unfortunately, it was freezing cold today and the parafilm didn't want to stick to itself. Anyway, I have a feeling that most of them will take. Thanks again!

Give the buddy tape a try, its a lot softer than parafilm.  I wrap my scion in buddy tape, then just wrap the graft unions with just flagging tape because it pulls tight and comes off easy.
Thanks, will look into getting some. I noticed that the quality of parafilm varies on temperature - when its warm it is easy to stretch, vs when it's cold. Probably occurs because it is wax based.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: CCPP Budwood Price Hike
« on: January 07, 2022, 07:47:56 PM »
I remember for out of state people, it was around that cost I believe (~3 years ago). I had to pay over $70 to get 3 varieties. Stopped growing citrus anyway...
Edit: maybe it was $2.50? Can't remember

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Organic scale control
« on: January 07, 2022, 01:32:03 PM »
I used neem oil to eradicate the problem, but once all the trees were back into the greenhouse, they spread like wildfire. First it was just a couple on the abiu...then the mango...and that seems to be it for now - they don't seem to go to other trees.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Avocado scions
« on: January 06, 2022, 05:43:44 PM »
Thanks for the scions, Brad! They arrived in great shape. Got my trees grafted up today. Unfortunately, it was freezing cold today and the parafilm didn't want to stick to itself. Anyway, I have a feeling that most of them will take. Thanks again!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2022 Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order
« on: January 05, 2022, 10:43:00 PM »
Anyone in the Socal area who would be willing to keep the trees (1-2) for me and send to me in the spring? Willing to pay or trade plants for your time. I understand the risks involved with bare root trees. Little worried about having them spend an extra week in transit. Last time someone shipped them to me the person was quick to ship, but they still didn't make it. Three weeks bare root looks to be pushing it especially in the winter. I know it's a pain to revive these plants, so I totally understand if no one wants to. Good luck with the order and I hope many people are able to grow this cool plant! 8)

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Sabara is the most suited to limestone as it can handle higher ph. So anything grafted on to sabara rootstock is the best. To help combat high ph, people in south FL can add sulfur to help lower the ph. I'm sure more experienced people who actually live there can offer you more valuable advice.
Edit:
The 5 I would plant grafted onto sabara would be
grimal - taste like muscadine
sabara - classic good taste
cambuca  - might do better on its own roots don't know anyone who has a large tree on sabara roots. good taste like a peachy mango. Comparable tastewise to cabelluda (yellow jabo)
red - hints of berry
and branca vinho phitrantha from Otto Anderson collection - haven't tasted this one, but many jabo experts think this one is one of the best tasting jabos.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tropical Fruits and Greenhouse in TN
« on: January 04, 2022, 05:35:33 PM »



Pitanga finally ripened and the taste is great! No resin taste at all. Looks like I got one that has good genetics. What's interesting about this plant is that I bought it as a black pitanga, but the fruit in the summer were not nearly black, although a bit darker, and now the fruit when fully ripe is red. Tree looks to be grafted, if anyone has any pointers to the variety, please let me know.

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