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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: brown spots on blackberry jam fruit cutting
« on: November 24, 2021, 11:33:11 AM »
Thanks, I'll give it a go :)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: brown spots on blackberry jam fruit cutting
« on: November 22, 2021, 11:25:33 AM »
Shilohtech, when that area had sun, water was every 2-3 days, now that it's shady maybe 7-10 days.  I check the soil, keeping moist and not drying out.  Soil mixture is 3-1-1 (bark, peat, perlite) with about a tablespoon of a mild organic fertilizer (down to earth 4-4-4) since it's in approx 1 gallon grow bag.

I think for a period it may be been too wet, maybe that caused this.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: brown spots on blackberry jam fruit cutting
« on: November 21, 2021, 05:01:32 PM »
This plant appears to be a relative of gardenias, and looking up gardenia issues, it could be.. well.. a lot of thing *facepalm*  Any ideas, or nothing to worry about?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / brown spots on blackberry jam fruit cutting
« on: November 19, 2021, 04:32:48 PM »

I received a blackberry jam fruit rooted cutting earlier this year.  Took a while, but it finally had some new growth sept-oct, and today I noticed brown/orange spots on the leaves.  Is this something to be concerned about or is it fine?

At the moment, it's in an area which gets only morning sun (overcast or fogged) for 3-4 hours, then rest of the day bright shade.

Thank you!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pinkglow pinapple
« on: November 15, 2021, 11:00:09 AM »
Wow.. 2 for $4?!
I thought I was lucky paying "only" $26 from the grocery store, instead of $50 shipped  :o

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: which buds on apple graft to remove?
« on: November 14, 2021, 06:18:26 PM »
That makes sense, thank you.  I wouldn't add a graft to the rootstock then, just below the existing graft?

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: which buds on apple graft to remove?
« on: November 12, 2021, 05:50:26 PM »
Here's what the two apple treelings look like after summer of a little growth - they grew a little crooked haha.  If I wanted to make these multi-grafted, where would you all recommend I do so?  Original grafts are basic cleft, hopefully easy to see in the pictures, if not, I can add marks where they occred.  I don't know if I have skills to do anything else.

These are m27 dwarf rootstock.  I know it's not the most ideal rootstock, but, I wanted to try something small for containers :)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 100 gallon pot options?
« on: November 11, 2021, 05:56:58 PM »
You could potentially grow some sort of vine onto the tote, or put some shade-loving plants around it, beneath the canopy of the tree.  Just means more plants, but hey, why not  :o

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pinkglow pinapple
« on: November 08, 2021, 07:37:44 PM »
If you are in southern california, sometimes the fancy Gelson's grocery store has them (or, they can order the pineapples for you), and you don't have to pay the shipping.  Unfortunately, they do refrigerate these, at least at Gelson's.
I did purchase one to taste, and it wasn't anything special.  Just a grocery store pineapple, but with pink flesh (looked a lot like ham though).

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pineapple thread
« on: November 05, 2021, 12:26:00 PM »
White sugarloafs seem to do well here but Im growing in a poly hoop house during winter.  The temps get into the 35-40s during winter.  We get 300hrs of 45F or lower.  The pineapple plants dont really get damaged from cold at those temperatures if they are kept dry and out of the wind it seems.  As long as they are under the plastic hoop house and it doesnt freeze they stay looking pristine.
I'm north and right on the coast from you.  My kaui sugarloafs (both the tops I got from a fruit order last winter, and also slips purchased from you earlier this year) are growing fastest on my balcony patio, although the leaves are purple I think from the sun and the glass railing -- it's normal from what I've read.  The Puan and cheese pine finally put out new growth, but seem to be slower growing.  I don't have luxury of a hoop or greenhouse, so we'll see how they do this winter outside.  The only other experience I have are twisties from costco and whole farts started in 2019.  Most of their leaves browned, likely from the cold last winter we had but eventually all had new growth.  Based on my short experience, it seems pineapples on my balcony only show growth aug-oct, and rest of the year they are very slow, therefore I suspect mine will simply take 3-4 years to fruit instead of the ~1.5-2.   Hopefully I'm wrong and they pickup in the spring :)

Fortunately I don't have ants in the plants yet, however, I do have lots of spiders taking up home and though it looks ugly I think that's okay.  Meanwhile, the ants have been a battle invading my home :(

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Cantaloupe results?
« on: November 03, 2021, 06:02:14 AM »
What does "SWC" cantaloupe stand for ?
What does "SWC" cantaloupe stand for ?
SeaWalnut Cantaloupe. Seawalnut used to be an active forum member.
Hi there, that's a funny coincidence, however, in this case, "SWC" stands for Self Watering Container, and not the former forum member.  Double bucket self watering system takes too long to type out, I thought SWC was a recognized acronym, sorry about that  :P

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Cantaloupe results?
« on: October 25, 2021, 11:58:00 AM »
Unfortunately the third plant with the deisred un-netted fruit died shortly after I posted.  We left the fruit on the vine just to see if it would ripen.  It remained pretty much the same color, with a little flush, and this weekend rolled off the dead vine.  We cut it open.  It had mild cantaloupe flavor, but wasn't sweet.  Until next year!

Hopefully, others who tried growing this can chime in?  Did you all have any luck?
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Holy Sh*t! How NOT to Trim a Mango Tree
« on: October 12, 2021, 04:12:53 PM »
My parents' gardener did this to all their mulberry and fruit trees last year, they can't reach any fruit now, it's all for the crows  :( ::)

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Saramuyo seeds for sale
« on: September 29, 2021, 06:20:40 PM »
PM sent

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Cantaloupe results?
« on: September 28, 2021, 06:23:30 PM »
Hi there:
Did anyone else here receive the cucumis cantaloupensis seeds from the now-banned Romanian user?  That user sent me a very nice letter with the seeds meticulously organized last year.  I have very little space and never grew any sort of melon other than pickling cucumbers.  So, I've really no idea what I'm doing here both in terms of growing and knowledge of this fruit, that's the fine print  ;D

We grew a total of five plants:  one in a double-bucket self-watering system, two in a 22 gallon grow bag, and 2 in the dirt.  The two in the grow bag had no fruit, and the remaining three plants had one fruit each. 

The SWC cantaloupe grew to a 7x5 inch ellipse, and days before full ripeness, it split!  >:(  Despite this, I went ahead and tried it.  It had a nice cantaloupe aroma, the meat was dry and mealy, a mild sweetness.  This growing method was a total experiment and a fun try.  Will try it again, and probably tweak the fertilizer a bit.

One of the plants in dirt has a small fruit that needs probably another 2 weeks to ripen, it's small, about a 4" diameter water-balloon shape - this is the one we're all waiting for because it has no netting on the fruit (apparently important).  According to this now former cantaloupe expert, the netting means hybridization, which is something we are looking to avoid.  Okay then! :)

The other one turned color to almost ripe, and while I took pictures, it fell off the vine.  It took only two days to turn fully yellow (including the ribs), so we opened it up.  It was juicier than the SWC cantaloupe, texture was sort of like a plantain/banana and not silky like what we are used to here for honeydew or cantaloupes.  Aroma was pretty strong.  Flavor was good, also mildly sweet, actually, pretty refreshing especially after chilling.  I like these with a little salt.  I also tried a bit of sugar as suggested by the user, it didn't really do much for me.  Many of the seeds had already begun to germinate inside the watermelon, that was interesting to see!

Will try growing again next year, with some tweaks to the bucket system, and try to find other in-ground spots.  Will report back once the third fruit ripens, hopefully, this time without issue!

Very curious to hear if others here had any luck with these cantaloupes :)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Saramuyos; cherimoya killer
« on: September 13, 2021, 12:34:19 PM »
I hand pollinate all my annonas, can they set fruits on their own? Yes but to increase yield you want to HP. Saramuyos are compatible to all those annonas you mention,
Oh, this is cool, I'm going to search this forum for more info.  Relatives of mine have a couple unknown cherimoya trees in their yard but fruit production is very low, they are very tall trees and we can't hand pollinate sadly.  We're also in OC. 

I have a couple 2 year old seedlings that I am growing from seeds of one of the trees, maybe I can try to graft a saramuyo onto one!  The one actually has a small brank, maybe I can leave one branch as cherimoya, and other as saramuyo?  Is this possible?  I've seen that other fruit trees can do this, like citrus and loquats.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pineapple thread
« on: August 17, 2021, 10:47:44 AM »
Can a young 4-6 months old pineapple plant growing from slip or twist top be bare-rooted?  I ask this because somehow some clover got into the pot and it keeps coming back since I can't get all the roots out.  The pineapples that have this are due for transplant now, roots sticking out the bottom :)  They seem pretty hardy but I wanted to check first before doing this.  Thanks.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pineapple thread
« on: August 08, 2021, 07:52:26 AM »
I do wish I had room for a greenhouse, but until I relocate somewhere, outdoors it is.  I might take a few of the uniquer varieties indoors.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pineapple thread
« on: August 07, 2021, 04:49:53 PM »
I missed that, despite having read this thread dozens of times.  Looks like time of year doesn't matter.  I have a project for next weekend then :)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pineapple thread
« on: August 07, 2021, 11:29:04 AM »
When would you all recommend up-potting pineapples?  Most of mine are either twist offs from costco or kauai sugarloaf in small pots (<1 gal) that started various times in the last 12 months.  I have a few slips from Brad, too.  I'm located coastal southern california.
Thanks :)

Lemon cucumber?  Leaves seem too rounded though.  Hmm.

I hope UCR gets it someday so I can grow in So Cal  ;D

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pineapple thread
« on: July 07, 2021, 02:49:27 PM »
I kept one of my pineapples in a grow bag and inside a ceramic pot on the patio over winter.  I saw something peaking up from the inside, and upon investigation learned that there isn't.. mushroom.. to grow. 

Laugh.  It's funny.   :P

Recipes / Re: citrus blossom water
« on: July 06, 2021, 08:22:03 PM »
For anyone who ends up here through a search engine: I ended up using only blossoms.  Painstaking process.  Interesting aroma.

After reading the article from dmwong93, the research paper showed a chart with Peluche Brix and it showed that this value increased after the fruit was picked and tasted a few days later.
Relatives of mine have a random loquat tree in their yard (grew from seed we think), and I am simply confirming that they do get sweeter if picked and left a few days, usually when they begin to look ugly.

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