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Help identifying Unknown Annona supposedly an Atemoya
« on: May 24, 2021, 09:18:26 PM »
Hi I recently bought an Annona tree tagged as Atemoya but they weren’t sure of the variety. This might be unrealistic to ask but could anyone determine what type of atemoya or Annona this might be. Thanks in advance.







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Re: Help identifying Unknown Annona supposedly an Atemoya
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2021, 01:11:58 AM »
Leaves have white margin like 48-17.

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Re: Help identifying Unknown Annona supposedly an Atemoya
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2021, 07:34:10 AM »
This to me appears to be a geffner atemoya.
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Re: Help identifying Unknown Annona supposedly an Atemoya
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2021, 12:44:27 PM »
Leaves have white margin like 48-17.

TY Seanny, how would you describe the flavor and texture of 48-17?

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Re: Help identifying Unknown Annona supposedly an Atemoya
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2021, 12:47:07 PM »
This to me appears to be a geffner atemoya.

TY Garden Harley, if that’s the case I’m really excited. There are several flowers on the tree so maybe I might get a fruit. I got it because it was pretty established.

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Re: Help identifying Unknown Annona supposedly an Atemoya
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2021, 01:29:19 PM »
This looks like a reticulata or possibly a temoylata as seanny suggested 48-18 -> https://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=10756.0

The tell is the short flowers as reticulata vs a geffner which are longer, also the glossy leaves as reticulata vs  geffner.

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Re: Help identifying Unknown Annona supposedly an Atemoya
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2021, 02:09:53 PM »
This looks like a reticulata or possibly a temoylata as seanny suggested 48-18 -> https://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=10756.0

The tell is the short flowers as reticulata vs a geffner which are longer, also the glossy leaves as reticulata vs  geffner.

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So it’s funny you say reticulata because that was my thought because of the shinny leaves. I have a reticulata and that’s what it most resembled to me. But the 48-17 I wasn’t familiar with so either options are fine as long as they are tasty.TY Joe.

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Re: Help identifying Unknown Annona supposedly an Atemoya
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2021, 10:03:35 PM »
It looks a bit like atemoya but mostly custard apple, temoylatas are quite rare so I think that’s not the case 🤔
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Re: Help identifying Unknown Annona supposedly an Atemoya
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2021, 02:56:25 AM »
It looks a bit like atemoya but mostly custard apple, temoylatas are quite rare so I think that’s not the case 🤔

TY. Sounds like I have to wait and see. Are most reticulata’s self pollinating?

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Re: Help identifying Unknown Annona supposedly an Atemoya
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2021, 12:18:48 PM »
TY Seanny, how would you describe the flavor and texture of 48-17?

Flavor was ok the year before, bad last year.
Texture was soft.

Leaves on your tree also look like leaves on a cherilata.
No fruits here.

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Re: Help identifying Unknown Annona supposedly an Atemoya
« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2021, 12:00:15 AM »
TY Seanny, how would you describe the flavor and texture of 48-17?

Flavor was ok the year before, bad last year.
Texture was soft.

Leaves on your tree also look like leaves on a cherilata.
No fruits here.

There are flowers on the tree so maybe some fruit. In your experience with reticulata’s and their hybrid’s are they self pollinating or should I hand pollinate?

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Re: Help identifying Unknown Annona supposedly an Atemoya
« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2021, 02:05:33 AM »



I grow them for ornamental so I only have a branch or 2.
I have to pollinate a few flowers else no fruits.
I have no experience with self pollination.

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Re: Help identifying Unknown Annona supposedly an Atemoya
« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2021, 12:12:20 PM »



I grow them for ornamental so I only have a branch or 2.
I have to pollinate a few flowers else no fruits.
I have no experience with self pollination.

TY Seanny and that’s a very nice looking fruit.

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Re: Help identifying Unknown Annona supposedly an Atemoya
« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2021, 06:49:28 PM »
TY Seanny, how would you describe the flavor and texture of 48-17?

Flavor was ok the year before, bad last year.
Texture was soft.

Leaves on your tree also look like leaves on a cherilata.
No fruits here.
I think cherilatas have wider leaves.
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Re: Help identifying Unknown Annona supposedly an Atemoya
« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2021, 12:49:54 PM »
TY Seanny, how would you describe the flavor and texture of 48-17?

Flavor was ok the year before, bad last year.
Texture was soft.

Leaves on your tree also look like leaves on a cherilata.
No fruits here.

I think cherilatas have wider leaves.

TBA you think after years of gardening I would have learned patience but nope. In this case it seems like it will be forced. Once and if I get a fruit I will add it to this thread. Because if it’s not a straight reticulata I may need help identifying. TY both for helping.

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Re: Help identifying Unknown Annona supposedly an Atemoya
« Reply #15 on: May 28, 2021, 06:04:32 PM »
They look nothing like my Geffner. My leaves are much paler and fuzzy not at all shiny and from the pic mine are smaller also.
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Re: Help identifying Unknown Annona supposedly an Atemoya
« Reply #16 on: May 28, 2021, 06:28:54 PM »
Not an Atemoya.  Not likely a Cherilata.  Looks like a Temoylata, such as the 47--18.  (Not 48--17)
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Re: Help identifying Unknown Annona supposedly an Atemoya
« Reply #17 on: May 28, 2021, 09:11:26 PM »
May I ask where did you get this annona? I’ve been looking for either a scion or a plant.

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Re: Help identifying Unknown Annona supposedly an Atemoya
« Reply #18 on: May 29, 2021, 05:36:56 PM »
Doesnt fit in with my image of gefner, AP or any of the mammoth clan. There is something odd about that one and from a few leaves sherlock holmes and nostradamus might have to be called in on this.

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Re: Help identifying Unknown Annona supposedly an Atemoya
« Reply #19 on: May 29, 2021, 07:05:32 PM »
They look nothing like my Geffner. My leaves are much paler and fuzzy not at all shiny and from the pic mine are smaller also.

I agree I just bought a geffner and the leaves look different. TY gnappi.

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Re: Help identifying Unknown Annona supposedly an Atemoya
« Reply #20 on: May 29, 2021, 07:06:59 PM »
Not an Atemoya.  Not likely a Cherilata.  Looks like a Temoylata, such as the 47--18.  (Not 48--17)
TY Guanabanus hoping to get fruit this season for confirmation.

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Re: Help identifying Unknown Annona supposedly an Atemoya
« Reply #21 on: May 29, 2021, 07:13:27 PM »
May I ask where did you get this annona? I’ve been looking for either a scion or a plant.

CHN90, I bought this tree from Tom’s Nursery (vuon trai cay) in Houston. So if your Spring, TX is the one north of Houston you should visit. Helen the seller was honest and said they said Atemoya but wasn’t sure. But it was too large for me to say no too. Which is why I’m hoping temoylata because I know some people wrongly call them atemoya. But it might just be a Reticulata which is fine too. Though that means I now have 3 custards apples 😅.

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Re: Help identifying Unknown Annona supposedly an Atemoya
« Reply #22 on: May 29, 2021, 07:19:07 PM »
Doesnt fit in with my image of gefner, AP or any of the mammoth clan. There is something odd about that one and from a few leaves sherlock holmes and nostradamus might have to be called in on this.

Hi Mike T I’ve added more pics.



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Re: Help identifying Unknown Annona supposedly an Atemoya
« Reply #23 on: May 29, 2021, 07:40:00 PM »
Another pic because it’s not letting me upload multiple pictures.



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Re: Help identifying Unknown Annona supposedly an Atemoya
« Reply #24 on: May 29, 2021, 08:42:28 PM »
Just an obvious question which is sometimes overlooked....does it have a graft line? The newer pics confirm it isn’t a cherilata, nor an atemoya.....  90% sure it’s reticulata though could be the temoylata.

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