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Triumph Persimmon
« on: February 14, 2023, 03:52:37 PM »
Looking for seedling or scions to buy please. Thanks!

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Re: Triumph Persimmon
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2023, 08:21:05 PM »
Looking for seedling or scions to buy please. Thanks!
You know you can grow much better varieties of persimmon in SoCal?  Triumph is mostly for South Floridians who don't have better options.  Triumph=small fruit, mild flavor, low brix.
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Re: Triumph Persimmon
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2023, 08:58:06 PM »
John what do you consider the best varieties? We get low chill hours where Iím at, maybe a couple hundred a year at best

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Re: Triumph Persimmon
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2023, 10:26:24 PM »
John what do you consider the best varieties? We get low chill hours where Iím at, maybe a couple hundred a year at best
I'm not an expert, but nurseries like Dave Wilson in CA and Just Fruits and Exotics in FL seem to carry some very nice varieties.  I've eaten plenty of beautiful Hachiya persimmons when in CA and found them to be colossal in size and excellent in flavor.
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Re: Triumph Persimmon
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2023, 01:08:21 AM »
I live in coastal Texas, fairly similar to conditions in a lot of Florida. Iím no expert either but here Iíve tried Fuyu, Hachiya, Tananashi, and Saijo, nothing seems to consistently do well in our cycles of intense heat/drought/humidity and cold blasts accompanied by potential false springs. You get a decent crop maybe once every 3 years, if that. Theyíre  also are prone to all types of fungus/diseases. The only trees that I know put out consistently well (other than Virginiana, which may be worth growing on its own?) and stay relatively problem free are Triumph, Heritage, and Honan Red. This year was a very good year for Honan reds here. My friend got over 200lbs and they are terrific dried. I managed to score some extra budwood from him, going to graft several trees up. Also, I know Lara has 5 triumph trees in the Redlands that stay relatively small and put out bumper crops every single year, and he doesnít even fertilize. If I lived further north I would grow every persimmon I could get my hands on. Here in 9a Iíll take a consistently heavy fruiting tree every day of the week. Iíve had those big nice fruits, theyíre excellent. Id love to be able to produce loads of them just havnt been able to make it work yet

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Re: Triumph Persimmon
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2023, 09:37:57 AM »
But in San Diego County in an inland location 33 Degrees North should have no problems with persimmons and most everything else--probably one of the best fruit-growing places in the world!
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Re: Triumph Persimmon
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2023, 12:18:35 PM »
If we were all so lucky!

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Re: Triumph Persimmon
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2023, 12:28:02 PM »
33 Degrees North, if you have a large rootstock persimmon tree then I can sell you some very good tasting large fruited, non-astringent, Japanese cuttings. I just took some cuttings a few weeks ago and have some extras. It should grow well in SoCal. Here's the photo showing the fruit, I call it "dad's unknown" since it is an old tree planted by my dad (40-50yr old). Send me a PM if you didn't find any cuttings.






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Re: Triumph Persimmon
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2023, 12:48:54 PM »
Those are beautiful fruits Kaz

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Re: Triumph Persimmon
« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2023, 01:59:55 PM »
Thanks Joe, if you want to graft a few, send me a PM this week.

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Re: Triumph Persimmon
« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2023, 03:26:05 PM »
Thanks Johnb51. I do have great persimmons growing in San Diego. The Triumph ask was for my friend in Florida. No one there has it currently for sale.

 

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