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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Restinga, white and dwarf Sabara scions
« on: March 26, 2023, 05:32:35 PM »
$5 each restinga - some nice ones near pencil and a bunch of trim off those
$5 each white - smaller but nice size
$10 each dwarf - mostly small but workable, it’s a dwarf after all

All of it shipped for $50 in USA only








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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My Yard 2022
« on: March 26, 2023, 02:44:36 AM »
Quote from: Jeramyl on March 25, 2023, 01:59:27 AM
UCSB said “yes” to this teenager of mine.  I’ll be bugging you to visit that yard of yours soon K Rimes!

Congrats! That’s a highly competitive school so you have raised a talented kid! PM me anytime for a visit. It’s a little boring right now but it’s about really take off as soon as winter leaves… if ever?!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Anybody ever successfully chip budded any Jaboticaba or Plinia?
« on: March 26, 2023, 02:42:14 AM »
Due to the peeling nature of the bark I think it would be very challenging.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Cold Hardy Longan tree varieties
« on: March 23, 2023, 07:51:14 PM »
Ok just to dispel the myth, I went to check on one of my longans that I left snow on. It lost some young growth, but probably had snow overnight on it. The other leaves on the canopy were burnt a bit as well.

I just simply do not see these surviving in NY, full stop.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Light exposure for Jabo
« on: March 23, 2023, 03:41:44 PM »
Quote from: John B on March 23, 2023, 03:34:03 PM
Even morning full sun? Let's say from 8-12? Then shade afternoon? I have a southwest spot that is shaded by a very large podocarpus tree in the afternoon.

Morning sun is good stuff, but again, San Diego has many micro climates. I would wager a jabo full sun inland would suffer. If you're by the water let em eat.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best tasting Plinia?
« on: March 23, 2023, 02:23:30 PM »
For me I think red hybrid or escarlate are hard to beat. They also produce by far the soonest. They're sweeter and the skin is more palatable. As a Floridian I think you should just get a couple of those as seedlings and let them rip. You won't be waiting long.

Sabara is the best balance of tannin, spice and sweetness, skin is edible but barely.

Grimal has a lot more flesh than red or sabara, and has a nice texture and flavor to the flesh. The skin, for me, is basically inedible and way too thick / hard.

The whites I've tried have just been sweet, with low flesh and thick skin. It's more about the aesthetic of the leaves for those for me.

I will get to try a few new varieties that I grafted last year this year, so I look forward to being more informed. There are some much more informed people on this forum about flavors so I look forward to their reviews.

Ok, not quite jabo but close enough - vexator kind of sucks. Sour, bitter skin.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Light exposure for Jabo
« on: March 23, 2023, 12:32:46 PM »
Quote from: Japachumi-Jagua on March 23, 2023, 09:46:22 AM
I am in the driest zone of CR near the pacific ocean, but still some tropical weather for 6 or + months the year. Now we are in dry season, strong winds and, consequently low humidity. This time of the year the sun gets a lot of plants burned, and the winds just make it worse...
Costant temperature of 33-37°C+ which is 91-98F

Quote from: K-Rimes on March 22, 2023, 10:19:36 PM
I think it depends on your climate. If you have really low humidity, scorching sun and high temps, they like dappled shade or indirect light. If you are in a really humid mild climate near the ocean, I would wager full sun is do-able. Costa Rica has many micro climates, so tell us more. If a tree can get more hours of good sun, it will grow faster and fruit better, but the opposite is true if it's just getting roasted and hating its life... There is a balance.

My sabara is in dappled shade and maybe gets 2-3 hours of direct over head sun in the summer. My climate is very low humidity, dry hot summer weather. It does very well.

When I trialed my jabos in full sun last year, both young and old, they all suffered immensely. I will not make that same mistake again.

My personal opinion for jabos in this type of climate is to have dappled shade. I have tried various times with full sun, even on mature trees, and they fried to a crisp. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Light exposure for Jabo
« on: March 22, 2023, 10:19:36 PM »
I think it depends on your climate. If you have really low humidity, scorching sun and high temps, they like dappled shade or indirect light. If you are in a really humid mild climate near the ocean, I would wager full sun is do-able. Costa Rica has many micro climates, so tell us more. If a tree can get more hours of good sun, it will grow faster and fruit better, but the opposite is true if it's just getting roasted and hating its life... There is a balance.

My sabara is in dappled shade and maybe gets 2-3 hours of direct over head sun in the summer. My climate is very low humidity, dry hot summer weather. It does very well.

When I trialed my jabos in full sun last year, both young and old, they all suffered immensely. I will not make that same mistake again.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Cold Hardy Longan tree varieties
« on: March 21, 2023, 12:51:53 PM »
I have a kohala and it's a champ for me. It has not even blinked here in 9b. I don't think it would like <20f, this said. It didn't defoliate, but you can see some frost and snow damage on the leaves.

My suggestion would be kohala as everyone says that's the most vigorous grower.

Post a photo of these NY Longans!

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Various scions available (surinam cherry, De Seda Lucuma, white Sapote, feijoa
« on: March 21, 2023, 12:50:15 PM »
Quote from: Abirkett2 on March 21, 2023, 02:34:05 AM
New to all of this, so forgive me if completely ignorant, but can the ‘Coolidge’ Feijoa just be grafted on any Feijoa rootstock?

Growing some in Central Florida and read they won’t fruit here, but not sure if that’s just because it is not a self-fertile variety. Would love to graft onto them.

Thanks so much!

In 9b you're fine and are getting enough chill hours. It's the 10A+ folk who might have issues chill hour wise.

I did not get fruit on mine till I had several types flowering in close proximity. Definitely a plant I recommend grafting for pollination purposes. Cleft grafts work fine.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: grafting question
« on: March 20, 2023, 04:16:44 PM »
My method is this:

1. Wrap scion in well stretched Buddy Tape
2. Clip bottom using pruning shears
3. Match with rootstock and clip it flat
4. Cut rootstock
5. Shape scion
6. Buddy Tape union
7. Tie union up with green gardening tape
8. Hold the rootstock and jam the scion in to really complete the union. This is really important for big scions that open up a gap.

That's it. I cut off the nursery tape when the union begins to swell, usually that takes 6-8 weeks. Sometimes I forget about it and it's ok, other times it makes the union REAL ugly if it's an aggressive grower so don't forget to release it.

Edit re: bags: I have used them for avocado when the heat turns up. Don't really know if it helps that much. Haven't used them on anything else. I sometimes ponder that they steam the scions if it gets really hot. It just seems to me that well wrapped BuddyTape is sufficient to keep moisture in but then I don't have nearly the avo grafting experience someone like Spaugh has. I follow his lead on that for sure! He has some good grafting videos on his YouTube / TFF post history.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cocktail/Multigrafted trees - Garcinia, Plinia, Eugenia
« on: March 20, 2023, 03:59:54 PM »




Another cocktail project, pineapple guava.

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Those are some good looking trees! I assume CORG is Cherry of the Rio Grande? I didn't realize there were so many different phenotypes?

Yep, eugenia involcrata. There aren't really that many "selected" CORGs other than scarlet and Ben's Beaut. I just name each cultivar after the collector I get it from. At this point, every seedling is a potential new cultivar so I'll keep sampling them when possible.

I think grafting eugenias is a very wise endeavour to ensure adequate cross-pollination and superior fruit set. The same is true for any fruiting plant really, so you may as well get to it!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Achacha in California?
« on: March 20, 2023, 02:20:01 PM »
Quote from: aaronn on March 20, 2023, 02:02:04 PM
I’ve left small Garcinia seedlings outside this winter in Napa, 9b. I have managed to kill most of them this way. So far Lemon Drop seems to be the most hardy. Maybe a Luc’s will pull through. But Achacha, Superior Lemin Drop, and Seashore mangosteen look like they aren’t going to make it. I NEED to grow Achacha so I’m starting more seeds and will take better protection measures for a few years but if they can’t ultimately survive outside then I’ll give it up.

I tried all number of garcinia even in my greenhouse, and no go. I gave up. If I were in 10A I would plant by a house and forget about it for a decade... But 9b outdoors, fuhgettaboutit.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2023 Mango Season
« on: March 19, 2023, 07:53:58 PM »
Anyone have a forecast from what they're seeing now as to the peak of the season this year? I am considering a trip out to FL again, was a blast last year but was at the tail end. Don't want to miss it this year if it's truly as epic as y'all are saying. 

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Feijoa Scion for Trade
« on: March 19, 2023, 04:50:53 PM »
Quote from: D-Grower on March 06, 2023, 03:06:54 PM
What varieties have the largest sweetest fruit if you know that is?

I believe Mammoth is the biggest. I tacked that onto my tree yesterday.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Root stock for Ross Sapote graft
« on: March 19, 2023, 04:49:07 PM »
Most pouteria should be fine. Mamey is most common, green sapote, lucuma, canistel.

Most times you buy a Ross in a nursery, it is on mamey.

White sapote is casimiroa edulis, a part of the rutaceae family, and not compatible.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: PGA (Psidium Growers Association) - thread all about psidiums!
« on: March 17, 2023, 03:59:52 PM »
Quote from: SDPirate on March 17, 2023, 03:54:20 PM
Quote from: K-Rimes on March 17, 2023, 02:30:36 PM
Bellamy has a ton of psidium species in stock right now and I made a cart of them. Haven't pulled trigger yet but am tempted.

My favorite thing with Psidiums is their resilience in our conditions, plus they are rewarding in that they grow quite rapidly in the warm seasons.  Bonus that they are generally low maintenance.

That's what keeps me interested as well. I really love these crazy new species but I have to be honest with where I live and it is not 10a+ - a guava limps along through winter and outgrows the frost burn. That's what also keeps me looped in with the campomanesias.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: PGA (Psidium Growers Association) - thread all about psidiums!
« on: March 17, 2023, 02:30:36 PM »
Quote from: SDPirate on March 17, 2023, 02:25:31 PM

My real interest is in seeing if there are any Psidiums that can pose a bigger challenge for me here (maybe one of those species coming from Cerrado region).

Bellamy has a ton of psidium species in stock right now and I made a cart of them. Haven't pulled trigger yet but am tempted.

I've found that indeed, 9b has its limitations even for psidium and I've experienced some loss this year. Cas Guava is NOT frost tolerant is this year's lesson. Perhaps it will sprout from the roots again but I kind of doubt it. Know to cover it next year.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: PGA (Psidium Growers Association) - thread all about psidiums!
« on: March 16, 2023, 05:12:00 PM »
Quote from: K-Rimes on March 16, 2023, 05:08:23 PM

Pretty sure this is myrtoides, it got severely burnt by snow. The bottom is still fine but don't know how the top will fair.


Orange flesh guajava again, burnt back hard by the snow and frost. I suspect I will lose about 1' on each branch.


Psidium sp, that FancyPlantsLA calls Skittles and Marcos calls Araza Banana? It legitimately tastes like skittles. I have two. This one has not produced but it grows way faster than my other that makes lots of fruit


I like guava in general and want to collect more. I also have a strawberry, lemon, long leaf, guienense, wrinkle leaf (named after a collector I can't recall Jose Jimenez?) and several others I can't recall.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: PGA (Psidium Growers Association) - thread all about psidiums!
« on: March 16, 2023, 05:08:23 PM »







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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cocktail/Multigrafted trees - Garcinia, Plinia, Eugenia
« on: March 16, 2023, 01:40:47 PM »

CORG with: Ben's Beaut, Robert Scott, Garnet, and my own type. I have an el dorado seedling I grew from Marcos beside it usually, so I could toss that on if I wanted. I will be tacking on Scarlet from FFF soon.


Calycina with Nate's and Achetadomestica and my own (FFF sourced seedling)


Healed Garnet CORG graft


Healed Robert Scott and Ben's Beaut on CORG

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cocktail/Multigrafted trees - Garcinia, Plinia, Eugenia
« on: March 16, 2023, 01:35:11 PM »
I've been pretty obsessed with cocktailing trees the last few years. Below are some of them I've been working on. I'll add a few more photos here as I find them. Eugenia don't play nice with each other for cocktailing, as I've experienced. Even something that is supposedly the same species - involcrata x calycina failed. I don't think I'm bad at grafting, so, I think it's a compatibility issue. Discovering this, I just make cocktails of the same species together but of different "cultivars" or seedlings from different collectors as it is. I need to find a photo of my 4 type CORG and 3 type calycina. They've all healed nicely and are quite big. I do this mostly for cross pollination, but also so I can sample other varieties (they fruit in the 2nd year after grafting) to see how the varieties stack up.

See below:

Santa Barbara peach rootstock with: apriums, cherries, pluots, plums, necatplums, peaches and nectarines



Jaboticaba with 15 types or something, I should probably count


A plum rootstock with the same list above (different location)


Apple tree with 11 types



8 type citrus on inedible pomelo rootstock, I need to fill in the middle still as it water sprouts

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Anyone post plants on instagram?
« on: March 15, 2023, 05:49:05 PM »
@aerakrimes is my main
@kgogarden is my half-assed plant only account that I should update more than once a month probably

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Why and when did you start collecting rare fruit.
« on: March 15, 2023, 01:31:39 PM »
Growing up in Vancouver, Canada I was surrounded by other cultures and exposed to lots of different foods. As I became old enough to have some pocket money, I set out to try every single fruit that would come through the local grocery stores, and then found out about a big Asian market (T&T) that had all kinds of even more obscure fruit. I always tried it earnestly, and even if I hated it, I'd try it again later or more or less ripe to try to figure out if it was just me, or if the fruit was really just not that good.

Years later, I started traveling around as a professional skateboard racer and ended up spending months at a time in Brazil where I was blown away by pitanga and jaboticaba... Those stuck with me and I always found myself craving them.

I ended up moving to Santa Barbara, CA and figured I should add some fruit trees to my property and went down to the local nursery. Plums, pluots, figs. That was what was available I felt that it was enough, but then I started thinking back on those pitangas... Could I grow them here? Then I was looking up what a hardiness zone was and quickly became obsessed with collecting. It spiralled somewhat out of control as it does with most collectors, and now I'm honing in on what will really work and really deep into it. What I think really keeps me stoked on this is that I've literally never met a bad egg in the fruit collector community. Everyone is so excited, kind, helpful, and overall positive. It's a community I want to be a part of, and like others have mentioned, once you're so deep into collecting and growing things you become attached to them and it's what gets you out of bed in the morning.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: March 14, 2023, 01:28:50 PM »



I should probably separate these soon. They’re starting to really take off!

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