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When you say taste is similar to e. uniflora, does that mean it tastes like a really good Surinam cherry, or like the common ones that have the harsh aftertaste?

A very fond memory I have, devouring OS's poolside at a resort in Key Largo. Everyone was eating their fried food and sandwiches, but staring at the smiling caveman dripping mango juice all about. Heavenly.

Having said that, I've had an LZ or 2 that were simply astounding and more complex than OS.

So, I have an OS tree, an NDM with a large part that is OS, and a seedling LZ. Will probably add LZ grafts this summer.

Fruitwise, a perfect LZ beats a perfect OS, but not by much. Most LZ's I've had were not "perfect."

OS has less problems with disease, and is easier to manage.

Suruga is out of stock for now, but might be worth getting on wait list.

Suruga has awakened, but not seeing any flowers yet. Flowered last year, couldn't tell if it set or not, flower cores eventually dried up.

Here are 2 of the 3 seedlings from Nate:

Just repotted them. They are tough as nails, not like the bareroot trees from China. The other seedling is planted in ground next to Biqi. Not as pretty as the 2 in pots, but doing well enough.

Seems yangmei can do better in pots than I thought.


The mangifera species I've been posting about (mempalam) is not mangifera pentadra. Just received fruits of m. pentandra, and was told that mempalam is a yet to be named species. Will post pics and give review on m. pentandra shortly.

Here is the fruit, not yet ready for consumption:

WuSu has been wilty, and An Hai seems to have lost its buds and died off. Any idea what's going on here Simon?

Order from Colombo with confidence. Same with TomekK.

Hello. Does not appear to be flowering, and even if it was, much too weak to hold fruit. Save your $, don't buy mango pollen.

Tropical Vegetables and Other Edibles / Re: New MB Grafts
« on: May 02, 2022, 12:52:45 PM »
Beautiful sight indeed! You have 2 choice varieties there. Nice job.

I'm growing a few, but think muscadine is the only one that is likely to do well in SoFL.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Persimmon dormancy
« on: May 01, 2022, 02:40:01 PM »
If it's stressed or not getting enough sunlight, may be behind schedule. Ours was a bit late, was overly dry and is shaded. Now it's pushing.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Pawpaw in 9B
« on: May 01, 2022, 02:07:53 PM »
Also interested in FL asiminas. A friend is growing only native species, and is seeking, as am I (I grow whatever).

Interesting. Will try, thanks for posting!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mangifera Pentandra (Mempalam)?
« on: May 01, 2022, 01:21:39 PM »
Do you think this may be considered a wetland mango like foetida and kasturi?

I'm not sure, but think it comes from Sarawak. Local climate is warm and humid, with drier spell during winter. My guess is it likes hot and humid. Grown locally here (Miami area), so seems to do well with our climate. Poor mango season this year, but seeing lots of these.

I will ask my source and see what they know.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mangifera Pentandra (Mempalam)?
« on: May 01, 2022, 10:54:17 AM »
Thanks fliptop!

Sampled fruit #3 this morning. Approached from a strictly juice standpoint. The fruit was small, pretty soft, and green (others had yellow/orange in them when ripe). Put the squeeze on each half, and collected a couple of ounces of light orangish juice. The fiber hung on to the skin, but broke up easily. Was nice to add some fiber to the juice as their was some pulp hanging on with juice and flavor. Couple of strings between the teeth, totally worth it.

Tastewise, this one was more sour than the previous 2, and less pronounced resin/spice. It reminded me of a good mango - orange juice blend. Quite sweet and tart, needed nothing added. Could drink this everyday.

I'm definitely growing these seeds out, and will add a tree or scions to our collection.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Odds & Sods - Plants For Sale
« on: April 30, 2022, 04:21:06 PM »
Thanks for the info Kev.

Haven't noted a vanilla flavor in mine. It has a berry flavor that leaves a pleasant aftertaste, just mild. The fruits are a dry and mealy when underripe, but when fully ripe are a little moist. So it seems there is some variability.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Odds & Sods - Plants For Sale
« on: April 30, 2022, 02:31:33 PM »
Hello, can you describe more about the flavor of your cedar bay cherries? Are they from seed?
Looking for something smaller, evergreen, drought tolerant with decent tasting fruit. Thanks in advance!

I'm wondering the same thing. Turns out I have a fruiting CBC. Flavor is good, but a bit mild. A sweeter version would be excellent, as it is nice. Is there much variability in seedling fruit? Do you have scions of a choice selection. Thanks!

Good deal.
Neelam is pretty underrated IMO. Has to be in my top 20.
Even better that its late-season

Thanks, I agree it is an excellent selection. Good late mangoes are hard to find.

Here she is at Alex's:

What do the folks on the Temperate Fruit subforum folks have to say about mulberries? Think we might be missing some useful input.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: April 29, 2022, 04:05:41 PM »
Your Biqi should be self-fertile.

I like the advice on extra perlite and coco to protect soil from becoming anaerobic. Notorious over-waterer here. Spraying stuff relaxes me, and can't stand the idea of a thirsty plant.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mangifera Pentandra (Mempalam)?
« on: April 29, 2022, 03:06:22 PM »
roblack, would you say the fruit is more like kasturi as opposed to indica?

It reminded me more of a pronounced Indian m. indica more than kasturi. A good kasturi reminds me of a spicy Indian mango too, but with some other weirdness to it, which is quite strong. I can't eat an overripe kasturi; in fact I think I like them a little underripe.  M. pentandra seemed more like indica, with spicy and fruity complexity. Strong sweetness, the other flavors were more subtle. Larger fruit than kasturi, and more flesh, but juicy and hard to cut without making a mess. More fiber than I usually like. I had a great time eating around the seed lemur style. Might be best as a mango novelty for eating, and more of a staple juice-wise. Move over OJ

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mangifera Mempalam?
« on: April 28, 2022, 10:34:34 PM »
????? can't find info with that spelling??

I was eating some Mariam plums today.

How were those maprang? Were they just sweet, or was there any acidity? Looking forward to trying soon.

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