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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Reviews
« on: June 27, 2021, 07:18:28 PM »
Thanks Simon, I have ST and Venus but didn't have the chance to taste them yet.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Reviews
« on: June 25, 2021, 04:54:01 PM »
Venus has been really good.

Simon


Are u eating Venus in SoCal already? I thought it was a late one, which for your climate must be around sep-oct?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango flavor . . .
« on: June 16, 2021, 04:49:02 PM »

I can only surmise that someone from India would say Alphonso mango is classic. Someone from the Philippines I don't know.

Probably something similar to Manila cv (it came on the ship that made the regular route between Manila and Nueva Espaņa) and its seedling Ataulfo.

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You are all talking about Ceratitis capitata, right? I didn't know it doesn't attack undamaged mangoes. I use organza bags and waxed paper bags combined to protect my fruit (including mangoes) from this fly, snails and birds and bottles with attractant liquid to reduce the population. Really a pain in the ass this insect.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Side Veneer Multigrafts On A Loquat
« on: May 22, 2021, 05:41:43 AM »

Some pics, as you see on quince works just as well as on loquat


 





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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Side Veneer Multigrafts On A Loquat
« on: May 21, 2021, 04:51:10 PM »
Another additional advantage of patch grafting is that with a single scion you can graft multiple branches or trees.

Great video, Jose - and food for thought.
In your experience, does loquat bark strip as cleanly from cuttings as the citrus appears to do?

When the tree is pushing, yes, absolutely, it's very easy. I use the same model of knife than in the video, and getting the bark strip cleanly is key in the case of loquat because it's fluffly and getting the right match between scion and rootstock is tricky, with patch grafting that trouble just dissapears. For me patch it's hands down the best option for loquat, speacially if you want differentcvs in the same tree. Tomorrow if I get time I'll upload some pics...

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Side Veneer Multigrafts On A Loquat
« on: May 21, 2021, 02:29:33 AM »
Another additional advantage of patch grafting is that with a single scion you can graft multiple branches or trees.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Side Veneer Multigrafts On A Loquat
« on: May 21, 2021, 02:28:21 AM »
I got the best results by far in the case of loquat with patch grafting and by far I mean that 100% of the grafts took last year and this one seems I gonna get the same results, when with cleft or other grafting methods I got much lower percentages. Here there is a video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w051zyackM explaining the patch grafting in citrics. In my case I use branches of the same size in the scion and the rootstock but I guess it will work just as well as shown in the video with different sizes.

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I looked at the flowers on my 3 that are festooned with flowers right now.The two younger smaller 9 footers have flowered many times and only produce a few fruit not much bigger than achacha at the biggest. At this moment both of these trees have 96% male flowers and only a few fruit set. My big 13 foot tree has flowered for the first time now and all flowers so far are male although only a small proportion have opened.
My experience here is that the bigger trees are males. The smallest tree fruited first.

If I understood right, male trees would make good rootstocks for female scions from Raul then?

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Jose Spain,
Have you sprayed with a soap, or an oil, or an emulsifiable concentrate?

No, this is the first flush of a graft that didn't show any problem until now so I didn't spray it with anything like that as far as I remember. Could be some bacterial or virus infection?

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Any idea of what could it be?










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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2021 Lychee Season
« on: March 04, 2021, 05:06:40 PM »
Did you know if a theoretical lychee addict with unlimited time and resources wanted to chase fresh lychees over the globe they wouldn't be able to get them in April and September.If they landed in Australia in October and chased the season south along the east coast until the end of March then flew to say Florida or Texas it would be May before they could get any.Then if they winged to Asia for the start of June and chased the season north, by September they would run out. I may be wrong but it looks like the emdless lychee season is not possible.

Southern Spain would be your destiny to have plenty of them in September (season here goes from Aug to Oct). I don't know if there is a equivalent for April in your hemisphere or in ours.

https://www.viverosblanco.com/en/litchi

Do they fruit consistently at that time of the year? That is incredible! October would be equivalent to April in the southern hemisphere according to my calculations.

That's right, season in the subtropical coasts of Andalusia (Malaga and Granada) goes from August to October, actually the latest cvs are the most consistent because they flower when temps are already warm enough for setting fruit, while earlier cvs ripening in August depend more on the weather of each year, you can see the dates for each variety in the link.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2021 Lychee Season
« on: March 03, 2021, 04:20:31 PM »
Did you know if a theoretical lychee addict with unlimited time and resources wanted to chase fresh lychees over the globe they wouldn't be able to get them in April and September.If they landed in Australia in October and chased the season south along the east coast until the end of March then flew to say Florida or Texas it would be May before they could get any.Then if they winged to Asia for the start of June and chased the season north, by September they would run out. I may be wrong but it looks like the emdless lychee season is not possible.

Southern Spain would be your destiny to have plenty of them in September (season here goes from Aug to Oct). I don't know if there is a equivalent for April in your hemisphere or in ours.

https://www.viverosblanco.com/en/litchi

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Bacterial Black Spot in SoCal?
« on: March 03, 2021, 07:08:28 AM »
Thank you Simon, let's see if anybody else has similar observations in SoCal. Did you or your friends experience yield losses on infected trees due to these possible cases?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Loquat fruit issues
« on: March 02, 2021, 09:07:25 AM »
Yep, seems the same again. Here more info about Fusicladium eriobrotryae and when and how to treat it (in Spanish)https://www.cajamar.es/pdf/bd/agroalimentario/innovacion/investigacion/documentos-y-programas/boletin-huerto-93-1496059913.pdf

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Bacterial Black Spot in SoCal?
« on: February 26, 2021, 07:47:40 AM »
Thanks for the answers, yes, I thought the same about climate, it must be part of the explanation as the MBBS as far as I know is still absent in Mediterranean Basin. And yet is present in countries like United Arab Emirates https://apsjournals.apsnet.org/doi/pdfplus/10.1094/PDIS.2001.85.9.928, where climate is much drier and hot than SoCal or Mediterranean coasts and the few rains happen in winter. The disease is also a big problem in South Africa but I've being checking the climate of the regions that hold the biggest part of commercial production and there most of rains come in summer like in Florida. I wonder if mangos are doing ok in the southern part of South Africa, where climate is also Mediterranean. Anyway if there are not cases reported from SoCal I guess we can assume is a good signal for anyone growing mangoes in similar climates with not rain during summer.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Mango Bacterial Black Spot in SoCal?
« on: February 25, 2021, 02:48:48 PM »
Hi everyone,

I've being reading for the last days all the posts I could find in the forum about MBBS and one thing got specially my attention: I didn't see any reference to cases in SoCal. Since every year  there is some trade of scions from Florida to SoCal, and the disease has been present already for quite a time there, I wonder why is that? Scions are less likely to transport the bacteria than fruit and leaves? Or did I miss the posts referring to recent cases in SoCal? Hope the answer is the first one but I'd like to hear your experience on this.

Cheers.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: October 11, 2020, 08:33:15 AM »
Some of my experiments with Palora graftings and seedlings, all were grafted/sown in April 2019.

 
This is a grafting of a Palora from Ecuador bought in a supermarket:



The other one that took, this one was slower, didn't start to push until few weeks ago, but it was my fault. I forgot about it and let it in a grown adult undatus, when I cut the stem, cut out the rootstock buds and put the piece to root and grow alone, one Palora bud pushed eventually, I think the other 2 buds will push also because the rootstock keeps producing flushes (that I take out).




This is a seedling of these Paloras, named #Pal3, is the most vigorous of all of them and I just found its first flower bud, 17 months after I sown the seed. I don't know if this is within the average time or is more precocious than usual, the other dozen of seedlings are neither so vigorous nor precocious but here we are just starting blossom season for megalanthus so we'll see...











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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: September 15, 2020, 02:30:41 PM »
As many as you want depending on the size of the rootstock, some varieties are more vigorous than others and will overgrow the slower ones. I have an old undatus in a big pot with 10 cvs grafted on it.
It sounds promising! What is the best variety to use for a rootstock, or doesn't it matter? According to my observations, in my climate the best and fastest growing varieties are Cosmic Charlie and Delight. Can they be used as a rootstock?

Yes, fastest varieties are the best IMO. The stronger the roostock, the better.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: September 15, 2020, 08:56:43 AM »
Hi guys. Do you think it is possible to graft several varieties on one dragonfruit? If this is possible, how many grafts can be done per plant?

As many as you want depending on the size of the rootstock, some varieties are more vigorous than others and will overgrow the slower ones. I have an old undatus in a big pot with 10 cvs grafted on it.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: September 15, 2020, 08:39:31 AM »


I'm excited for these megalanthus blooms but the fruit will probably not ripen properly given summer is almost over.  Maybe next year it will bloom earlier.




Here megalanthus blooms at the end of summer and beginning of fall and ripe through the next spring. In other places they ripe in winter, in my yard they didn't ripe so early so far, first ones are ready in April.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: How to make lychee bloom
« on: July 20, 2020, 04:13:35 AM »
This is a reason that fertilizer timing is also very important. If you apply fertilizer during what you want to be dormant winter stage, then you will get undesired new flush growth.

This is interesting for those living in Mediterranean climate, because the first years that would be a very desired flush growth. I'm using gibberellic acid with my young trees to avoid the bloom for the last 2 years and it works pretty well, 3 to 0 bloom flushes  in my FZS and Kaimana in despite of the low temperatures, but knowing that fertilizer in winter also helps is interesting. I guess nitrogen would be the main element to consider for this matter?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherimoya pruning
« on: July 20, 2020, 03:16:36 AM »
You may want to pay a visit to this thread about the topic:

http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=21973.0

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Who is growing No Mai Tsze lychee?
« on: July 19, 2020, 03:25:15 PM »
its a simple graft like every other graft you do. I have done veneer, cleft, on both green and mature wood, although hardened green wood has gotten better results. Also timing is perfect for grafting even now.

Somehow I have cocktail lychee on longan and lychee Rootstock, it may be tough nut to crack but somehow I got good success.



Hi Behl

I wanted to share a couple of graftings of Salathiel I did exactly one month ago on longan. They both took and are pushing now. Thanks for the tips  ;) I hope your grafted varieties on longan keep doing as well as one year ago, I've been told they trend to dry after some time, I hope is not the case with NMT and its seedling Salathiel. We'll see!






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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Top these cherimoyas?
« on: July 16, 2020, 02:26:48 PM »
You can cut the branch back then remove 2 or 3 leaves.  Thats what I do at least.  Just remove the leaves that point in the direction you want that new branch to go.

Thank you Brad, got it!

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