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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WTB Passiflora Antioquensis
« on: October 12, 2021, 01:18:05 AM »
Would be interested to learn if you have any luck finding this.

The SF Botanical Garden used to routinely offer 'Mission Dolores' at their annual sale.
Got one there myself probably a decade ago and it was incredibly happy in my San Mateo Coastside setting - until my extended absence on a business trip did it in. I'm sure coastal SLO would provide the same near ideal 45 -70 degree cloudforest range for it.

More recently, I believe SFBG stopped offering Mission Dolores - not sure if maybe they lost their mother plant or...? Might be worth a call.
As for seeds - I rolled the dice on a dozen Antioquiensis from a vendor in Portugal last year and struck out completely. Maybe shelf life limits?

Best of luck.

"Beads" not seeds sounds like the way to go.

Sux losing seeds/plants/scions/whatever in shipping. Has happened to me a few times now. Lost considerable amounts of $ too.

Lost an AeAe nanner plant due to whacko usps issues last year, along with a few others.

Had seeds confiscated from out of country, complete with legal threats as others have reported.

Imaging cellmate 1 asking cellmate 2, "Whatchu in for?"

Cellmate 2, "Semillas man."

Cellmate 1, "You too?"

Cool Hand Luc?

REALLY saddened to hear of the losses - especially with no apparent rhyme or reason, since I too received Raul's shipment undisturbed, unopened - near as I can tell.

Sorry too for Raul - since it renders his tremendous sense of good faith useless.

Funny - people like me - stuck here in the Arctic that is the No. Central CA Coast always think the grass must always be greener in locales like yours. And though I've visited CR maybe 7 or 8 times, I have to admit exactly that - it's almost all been limited to Arenal, Dominical, Osa and  Limon/Puerto Viejo - with only one trip out to Santa Teresa/Malpais and Hermosa 20 years ago - I'm almost afraid to know what's become of it, actually.

But I can imagine that with its more temperate, arid landscape, Guanacaste presents different challenges for nurserymen. Good luck on your quest - you sound like someone to look up the next time I head your way.

Apart from a Google nursery search that I wouldn't presume to say would improve on your local knowledge, I recall watching a whole series of YT segments that Pete Kanaris of Green Dreams (FLA) has assembled on his tours of few longtime CR food forest / permaculture pioneers there.

Might be names you already recognize, but maybe there's something new to be had too. Thoughts Pete?


Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Rare fruit plants for sale
« on: August 25, 2021, 02:36:40 PM »
Hi Brian -
I'm still down for a purchase of a few P. Robustum if that's possible. I Just needed your Paypal info - or your preferred means of follow up.

Just FYI - I just left a belated email at Queen of the Amazon,  too - I thought you might've posted the same items on your page and hoped I could just buy them there.


Thanks again for your generosity Behl - and delivered in record time, too.

Of the bunch I ordered, I'm especially looking forward to Cumbe's progress. I've really only seen mention of it commercially at the Fruitales Tropicales website (Malaga, Spain)

I'll keep you posted.


Thanks, Behl - and happy trails.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Rare fruit plants for sale
« on: August 21, 2021, 01:52:51 PM »
I'm down for a pair of the P. Robustum if you can forward payment info via PM.


Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Rare fruit plants for sale
« on: August 20, 2021, 01:23:59 PM »
Are the P. Robustum still available? I sent off a PM a few days ago but haven't heard. I'd be agreeable to local pickup if you're shipping them from Soquel. Any excuse to surf Privates will do...

...And even a place like California Trropical in Vista - which often makes a variety of larger subtropical specimen trees available - publishes a 'no grow' list on their website.

Not to say those things are impossible, but that from their point of view dealing with customer ire over repeated failure becomes a disincentive to stock them. On occasion Atemoya Nursery - also in Vista - has made runs up this way - might be worth monitoring their FB page every so often.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Rare fruit plants for sale
« on: August 19, 2021, 12:09:10 PM »
PM Sent.

I just took delivery of my P. Viridis too - and I wanted to take a minute thank Nate for the beautifully grown, carefully packaged plant - you're batting 1000 with me.

I'll be back for more.


Yes, and sadly that was BEFORE Dr. Harris obtained his credentials from Baby Doc U. Otherwise Uncle Duke's legal counsel probably would've sprung Zonker and Mike on a medicinal exemption right from the get go...

I was at Exotica nursery on Friday and picked up a grafted Sunset in a 5 gallon container.  There were a bunch if anyone is looking for this variety.

And just as an update for the late arrivals (like me) - Steve says he's currently sold out of Sunset for the rest of the 2021, but that he'll make it available again come Spring '22.

I'd be in line for a second buy too, Ken - since I jumped on board too late to take part in the Norcal relay that would've gotten my plants up here a few months back. I'd likely be up for purchasing at least one each of the 4 varieties made available last time. Keep us posted if you're willing - I may be able to be the relay guy for the North Central Coast growers who are interested - especially if Nate is busy on the farm next time around.

Thanks for that Kaz.

I'll follow uo on those old links - have to keep my eyes peeled for yellow sapote seeds/seedlings.

As it happens, I got my Nettie scions from Jonah as well, and the compact habit of his Nettie tree seemed like real plus to me. We're both working within the limits of pretty similar city lot sizes with fairly comparable Central Coast temps. Currently I only have a Suebelle/Frankenstein planted out, but I think my biggest Nettie is going to get a permanent home soon.

BTW - all your Big Jim and Vista scions are pushing steadily - in spite of our June/July gloom. Thanks again.

Has anybody had a chance to work with Nettie as rootstock from cuttings for its dwarfing potential? I like what seems to be Nettie's more restrained habit. Or maybe Robert and Kaz can weigh in on other varieties with more of a 'backyard' scale? Not sure what success either of you have had with rooting WS cuttings for that purpose.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Hard Pruning My Mexicola - Advice?
« on: July 23, 2021, 06:03:29 PM »
So had the Lula been producing for you? Looks like it must've - judging by that diameter. A neighbor of mine hacked a Jim Bacon way back
like you've just done - probably 5 or 6 years ago. Looks pretty much the size of my 12' Mexicola today. Good luck with Lula v.2.0

Thanks for sharing your experiences everyone.

I think humidity is one of the most important things it needs that we lack in most parts of so cal. The leaves are always brittle, unlike my other Garciniaís like Lucís, Dulce, false mangosteen, and others.

@SoCalBalcony - Iíll never give up on Garcinia's that will grow decent/well here but I donít have time to baby these things along forever and ever, takes long enough for Garciniaís to flower here when theyíre super healthy. I got my false mangosteen seeds from some fallen fruit off the large tree they have at the Fullerton arboretum, so I know SOME species of Garcinia trees can get large here (if you actually live long enough to see them do so) ;)

I get nowhere near your consistent heat, I know - but how do you treat your Luc's? I tend to keep my 2g in southern - but dappled exposure. Right now it sits at the base of my fence, behind the foliage of a potted 5 Gal. Macadamia. I tend to soak it once a week but never keep it soggy. Hasn't moved a millimeter, seems like. But it hasn't declined one bit either. Spent Winter/Spring 2021 out in the Central Coast elements, too.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Hard Pruning My Mexicola - Advice?
« on: July 22, 2021, 02:06:00 PM »
Thanks for that Brad - will do.

Your JB and Reed scions are taking like gangbusters on my Kona Sharwil, BTW - even in the June/July gloom that these inland infernos have imposed on us.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Hard Pruning My Mexicola - Advice?
« on: July 22, 2021, 01:31:35 PM »
This is an open letter to any longtime avo grower out there.

Come Christmas - I'm looking to take a bit of height off the tallest, most vertical recent growth on my Mexicola Avocado for the first time. Up to now I've mostly been letting it run wild, except when I've found really cantilevered laterals or badly crossed branches - never any real hard pruning. Mostly, the tree has kept a pretty attractive harping 8' wide perimeter all on its own. At its tallest points it's probably pushing 12' and I'm hoping I can steadily work it to keep it at 10'.

Right now we're really only talking about three towering runs here, but is there a chance that in tackling all of them in one go I might really set the tree back unnecessarily? I kind of figured that a lost season might be a given, but I wasn't sure if, taken too far, this might result in alternate bearing for a longer period. I've gotten two increasingly productive years out of the tree thus far. This Thanksgiving should see its third.

Also, if I start with the idea of taking about 2' off of each limb, does anybody have recommendations about how I target my cuts - say, down to the nearest beefy 1/2" south facing lateral growth or...? Glancing at the tree just now, lopping at the 2' mark would have me cutting through a 1" thick portion of each limb.

Or am I overthinking this - and the tree won't miss a beat from what I have planned?

Thanks to any/all for your input.


Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Seedlings for sale
« on: July 17, 2021, 02:09:18 PM »
PM sent.

Also interested in the Grumis. Thanks!

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WTB: Green Sapote seeds
« on: July 14, 2021, 12:38:25 AM »
Hey Nate -
I sent you an email on this very topic (yesterday?).

Just wondering what size you're selling of those P. Viridis. Might be time to drive down and pay you a visit.



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