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Looking for purple-red and yellow grumichama seeds or seedlings. 
PM me if you are selling.


Champa Nursery has really big ones on sale for $75. I'd suggest just doing that.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: How to get rid of birds?
« on: May 26, 2020, 01:29:53 PM »
I don't think you can get rid of them, rather use the Anti Bird Netting protect your Fruits.  I love all the birds around my tree, they take care of the insects for me.

+1 for netting. It's the only way I can get fruit. Some birds like robins are really smart and can get up and inside the netting though, so if it's stuff you really care about, secure the net to the ground too.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / WTB White Sapote scions
« on: May 24, 2020, 02:10:27 PM »
Looking to purchase a variety of white sapote scions for grafting - had 100% success on my attempts so it must be the right time.

Already have Super Sweet and Suebelle.

Looking for:

Lemon Gold
Malibu #3
Mac's Golden

I bought a 5 gallon NDM from a local nursery.  I am not sure of the root stock. It looked terrible after few weeks.  I thought it is going to die.  After much reading from this forum, I took the risk on the $85 NDM by removing all of the soil and rinse the root.  I then re-potted with with 1/3 sand, 1/3 peat moss, 1/3 perlite with some charcoal and organic  fertilizer. For months, it does not do anything.  I thought I am kissing my $$ goodbye.  However, in the last two weeks, the NDM give 3 new growth with about 6" each. 

I strongly believe the combined knowledge of the members on this forum is incredible. I will try to replace peat moss with pumice next repotting adventurer.

All my plants I bring home and re-pot have about 1 year lag before they actually grow strongly. My Diamond mango is absolutely FLYING this year and is adding a new branch every week it seems - lots of blooms too, but overall doing a lot of nice growing of leaves. I'm about to swap into the recommended soil mix here. Apparently that stinky stuff has tons of nutrients to it and can feed for a year or something.

Plan is to use:

50% coarse sand
30% gromulch
5% peat moss
15% pumice stone (found a line on it sold as Dry Stall, a "volcanic aggregate for horse stalls" and well recommended by succulent nerds)
1/2c of azomite
mykos soil additive

I put mine in partial sun at that point, but now at about 6" they are just getting absolutely obliterated in 100f full sun with no issue. I honestly think they could take full sun even as a seedling... Tough plants.

I live near mimosa and champa nursery and I am looking for a hybrid red jaboticaba or any jaboticaba that will start fruiting earlier. I do not want a sabara variety since I want one that will start fruiting earlier and I can keep a compact size and still give fruit.  If I go to mimosa to pick out a tree how can I tell if its a hybrid red or a sabara variety? The people that work there are usually not very helpful.

Champa nursery has some chunky and peeling Sabara for $275 - some almost 6' tall and are in 20 gallon pots. They are probably only 2-3 years from fruiting if you treat them well. I bought on of their sale 15 gallons for $120, and wager it's probably 4-5 years before that size fruits.

Unfortunately with slow growers, you're paying for time.

Check with forum member Adam at Flying Fox Fruits. That's where I
bought mine.

Same here, they grow super slow so make sure you get decent size and as old as you can afford it to be.

Iíve found Grimal to be one of the fastest growing in my jabo collection. Worth collecting for sure.


Can anyone chime in if chunky perlite or stone will serve the same purpose as pumice? I can't seem to find a good source locally.

Benefit of using pumice is that it can hold moisture out of the three while providing other benefits. Perlite will provide aeration, will help to reduce compaction but it tends to float up due to its weight. I am guessing rocks will provide some aeration and will help to reduce compaction as well. Pumice will definitely help during our 100+F days by retaining moisture, but will never degrade or create anaerobic condition. I stocked up on pumice for $9/50 lb bag in the past from zenhydro.

Makes an abundance of sense - I think I found a good source here in SB and will be doing the same, 50lb bag. I have 3-4 large mangoes to pot up - do you recommend putting them in a 25 gallon pot straight from a 7 or 15 gallon? I could definitely enjoy not having to up pot again later on.

This thread has been extremely valuable, especially the tips about not growing in potting soil. My diamond grafted mango has been absolutely living it up producing prolific blooms this year and thickening up nicely on the trunk... But I will certainly be repotting it in a mix of pumice, sand, and topper as soon as I get home from this trip to AZ.

There is another fellow in SB who I've been communicating with and it seems his are really slow compared to mine - and I chalk that up to being in a more "hot desert" climate, even though not many miles from the beach as the crow flies (2200' and at peak of mountain will do that I guess). It seems to me that people who live in places with regular marine layer and the humidity it brings with it have many more fungal issues. I swear, my pots will crank up to 110+ temp so maybe it's fries the fungal stuff inside them?

Can anyone chime in if chunky perlite or stone will serve the same purpose as pumice? I can't seem to find a good source locally.


Mike arranged to have mangoes arrive in AZ for me while Iím on a trip from my usual CA location. Great load of mangoes which I canít wait to enjoy and subsequently plant the seeds from for CA growing. Thanks!

PayPal sent!

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: GEM avocado tree
« on: May 17, 2020, 01:23:26 PM »
Probably good I donít live in SD cause Iíd probably buy this and everything else you list. 🤣

I've been looking too.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Let's Boost My Grafting Confidence!
« on: May 14, 2020, 06:33:04 PM »
Without a doubt, White Sapote and Loquat.
If you store the scion and root stock in the same room, you may return to find out you already have a take. :)

Indeed, I grafted both white sapote and grumichama just last week and both appear to already be budding.

Also grafted loquat a few weeks ago, but not seeing any movement. Grafted surinam cherry, and white jaboticaba as well, but nothing from those either.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Thoughts on PlantOGram
« on: May 13, 2020, 02:40:43 PM »
Hey, everyone. I was wondering if you had any thoughts on PlantOGram. I purchased 2 mango trees from them. It was shipped on Apr. 30 and arrived on May 7. Sadly the box arrived in poor condition with a large dent, and the trees came damaged with the trunks broken on both trees, and fallen leaves in the box. I took photos and emailed PlantOGram that same day to let them know. I sent a follow up email yesterday, but I haven't heard back in about a week. Any thoughts on what you would do? I'll try to baby these trees, but I'm afraid they may not make it. I checked out the roots, and there's a rotting smell coming from the soil. Should I change the soil? Pretty bummed, but I guess lesson learned. :(

Unfortunately even the best shipped plants are still susceptible to poor handling. Even extremely well put-together tree boxes have arrived with the plants hurt inside. The real issue right now especially is that we're in hot times of the year and if a plant sits around in a hot truck or post facility, it's going to be extremely stressed on arrival.

I tend to avoid ordering plants online now, especially during the summer or hot periods. Look at your 14 day weather and choose a cold window if you must.

I used a little trick Adam Shafran mentioned one time.
I planted the seeds from my "Black Star" mother plant... and then grafted fresh "Black Star" scions onto those seedlings.
I guess the idea is that they should have maximum compatibility for grafting.
I'm still creating more duds than takes... but at least some are working out OK.

Kevin Jones

At what size are you grafting them? Post a photo of your most recent grafted surinam for the TFF family?

It looks very much like pitanga. If you're in Florida or an area that has lots of these, birds can carry them around. Could've dropped overhead or something potentially.

I have a bunch of Agri-Fos/Garden-Fos - phosphorous acid used to treat phytopthera in citrus.  What about this?

You can try anything you want or have - just check your PH afterwards with a (ACCURATE) PH meter.

Having experimented with vinegar and PH Down - vinegar is basically useless.

Get a proper PH Down product and a pipette. My 8.1ph water goes down to 6.0 with just 1ml of PH Down from Advanced Nutrients. Can get down to 4.0 for blueberries / miracle berry using 3ml. These PH down products that use phosphoric acid have a use in the fertilizer schedule, acetic acid not so much.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Wanted: Green Sapote Seeds
« on: May 11, 2020, 03:29:15 PM »
There are very good size trees available at Champa nursery here in LA, but $$$. I believe all things there are grafted onto mamey stock, though.

I did a similar thing with my "Black Star".
So far... I seem to be striking around a 30% success rate.

Kevin Jones

Definitely far better than my so far, 0% rate. We'll see about the grafts I tried this year. Many attempts on loquat, white sapote, and now surinams...

I grafted up a bunch this week, Zill's scions onto random seedlings and onto some more senior plants too. Hoping to see success. I also went with cleft.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: "Nelita" Starting To Ripen - Photo
« on: May 08, 2020, 12:11:59 PM »
Looking great, Kevin. It appears that others get pretty dark crimson (darker than that).

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Seeds
« on: May 07, 2020, 06:22:38 PM »
I too received some beautifully packaged and organized seeds and scions. Thanks again.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Central Valley, ca thread
« on: May 06, 2020, 08:15:20 PM »
This is the property I live on, which is at 2200' in Santa Barbara, CA. It is almost always sunny, even during the June gloom, May grey, Fogust that SB gets, so the hours of sunlight my plants receive is pretty ludicrous. It was 80f in SB today, and cranked up to 93f today. We will see several 110+ days this year, so I would say this is indeed more central valley than it is SB Coast. In the winter, it went down to a recorded 26f. Luckily I have a nice micro climate inside the oaks, so when my neighbors are watching things die, my little slice is doing a bit better just a couple hundred feet away they'll be 10F lower!

This area is where I put all my most sensitive plants that can take the heat and sun. It is 10f hotter here, even in the winter. Mangoes, dragonfruits, sapotes, and eugenia area. Especially helpful for seedlings. I ran a frost cloth over top of all the dragonfruits and had string lights in it which kept everything toasty all winter long. No damage or deaths here.

This lower area is the next best for sun and heat, and I yank stuff over below the deck if it's looking really cold. Plums, cherimoyas, pluots, atemoya, guava, pitanga / strawberry combo pot, vanilla ice cream bean, black sapote, raspberry, caviar lime and panache fig

This is the area where I have more sensitive plants and those that don't need a lot of sun. I have a very large sabara jaboticaba that seems to be ready to fruit this year, two grumichamas, cherry of the rio grande, 7 blueberries, a lychee, gooseberries, and a whole lot of seedlings.

Everything is in pots mostly... Since the house isn't mine and I'm just a tenant. Luckily the well water is good stuff!
That climate does certainly sound more like the valley than it does the coast. I always got a bit depressed that sb was so gloomy throughout the year. Itís nice that you get that sweet sunshine but can easily head to town for some cool weather if need be.

I was actually looking at some cheap property in the hills of Santa Barbara, something like 200-300k for a couple acres but it was teeming with red tape. There is some good spots up there.

I'm always looking at the land - and after substantial research, those plots you see in the 200-300k are rife with issues. Stuff over by Conejo Rd is slide-prone. Stuff on the 154 has fire and water issues. The stuff in Rosario Park is nice, but not enough sun and warmth for what I'm looking for.

Just sorta hoping to see just the right piece come up, but inevitably when it does, it's snapped up quick.

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