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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: first Savannah Cherry / Eugenia Calycina fruit
« on: May 08, 2023, 11:05:50 PM »
Looks good and nice fat size.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Hunt for the best Surinam Cherry
« on: May 08, 2023, 10:06:52 PM »
Interestingly the cold and rainy winter really worked for me. I usually have issues with pitanga leafing and flowering too early and getting destroyed by frost or rain. They are not so happy but are coming back. My big vermillion lived in greenhouse as did the Regina. You can probably tell which those are.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: YouTube video of home rare fruit yard in Coastal San Diego
« on: May 08, 2023, 11:44:29 AM »
Awesome video and collection, we need an updated video from the same spot!
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Watering for flowering Pitaya
« on: May 08, 2023, 11:35:52 AM »
Mine are in pots, so, a bit different than in ground. I water them daily on hot days, but I will restrict water for 2-3 days after flowering and seem to notice an improvement in fruit set.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherry of Rio grande no fruits
« on: May 04, 2023, 12:50:00 PM »Hi K-Rimes,
Which method did you used to grafted your Garnet variety? I brought scions from Kevin twice already, none of my graftes were success.
Thanks,
Al
Clip top and bottom of scion for fresh wood, wrap in buddy tape, cleft graft, buddy tape the union, use green plant tie to tie the union tight. I cut the green nursery tape off around 6-8 weeks after the scion is pushing and growing well. It can take several months sometimes. Grafting in spring (late March) seems to yield the best results for me. Fertilize the tree after grafting with granular slow release.
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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: RAFFLE ANNOUNCEMENT
« on: May 04, 2023, 12:42:57 PM »
I'm in, ordered on Feb 3!
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: CENTRAL COAST CA MEET UP - June 3, 2023
« on: May 03, 2023, 05:49:09 PM »
One month out reminder
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What pineapple guava should i grow?
« on: May 03, 2023, 05:42:14 PM »
I'm real glad I topworked my tree with NZ stuff in this case!
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tropical climate trees are "less efficient" by nature?
« on: May 03, 2023, 05:41:38 PM »A tropical plant is usually bombarded with heavy sun, rain, and warm temperatures year round. They don't need to be such strong growers when the climate around them is steady. A deciduous tree really needs to pump hard in the growth season to maximize its size and production.
A tropical plant in a variable climate or one that is much colder than it's used to will be suffering most of the year.
Makes sense to me.
I would like to add a different take on that.
The tropics is a tough environment. Under rainforest canopy it is a bit more pleasant, if not fungal balmy.
The trees in the open and the exposed canopy foliage is getting hammered. Just like us if we spend all day in the open on the tropical beach or working in a garden.
Many tropical plant species have red pigmented growth tips, UV filters / sunscreen.
Roots are often subject to water logging and fungal attack.
Seedlings and all plants are subject to intense competition from other plants, and also foraging from insects and animals.
Many plants carry toxins to ward this foraging off, leading to our use of tropical plant medicines, drugs, insecticides.
Many tropical plants adapt readily to different environments, subtropics, temperate, indoor.
Having collected and grown many Nth Qld tropical plant seeds, I was often surprised how tough some from the true "Wet Tropics" are when grown from seed in temperate Victoria under cold pot soil winter conditions.
Definitely agree with your take on it as well. I personally am prawn status after about 20 minutes of tropical sun and could not stand the whole day in it like these trees do.
I guess my point was that those slow growing characteristics we note is also probably not the case when they are in their native habitat. I can't believe how tolerant many sub tropical things are, but then at the same time, I can't believe how many tropical things I've killed trying to push them to work in my climate.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tropical climate trees are "less efficient" by nature?
« on: May 03, 2023, 02:24:23 PM »
A tropical plant is usually bombarded with heavy sun, rain, and warm temperatures year round. They don't need to be such strong growers when the climate around them is steady. A deciduous tree really needs to pump hard in the growth season to maximize its size and production.
A tropical plant in a variable climate or one that is much colder than it's used to will be suffering most of the year.
Makes sense to me.
A tropical plant in a variable climate or one that is much colder than it's used to will be suffering most of the year.
Makes sense to me.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What pineapple guava should i grow?
« on: May 03, 2023, 01:07:26 PM »Can anyone confirm that pineapple guava can be grafted on regular guava and vise versa?
Doubt it would work. The wood is very different. I don't really see why you would try to graft feijoa to guajava when feijoa is so much more cold hardy, and stout growing. They are straight up bulletproof. My feijoa didn't even blink under snow and weeks of frosty nights, my guajava lost almost 2' of growth during that time.
Now, guajava on feijoa could be interesting, but again, pretty far off wood wise. Feijoa stays wooden whereas guava gets that kinda peeling bark.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherry of Rio grande no fruits
« on: May 03, 2023, 01:01:06 PM »Jumping in here...I have a Cherry of the Rio Grande thats about 8' tall, no fruit as well. Are there different varieties I can graft onto this tree to improve fruit set? Where can I buy the budwood? It had never occurred to me that there were multiple varieties of the Cherry of Rio Grande.
I sold some El Dorado a few weeks back, but all out for now. Contact Kevin Jones for his Garnet variety.
I have on my "cocktail": garnet, ScottR, Ben's Beaut. I also have a big El Dorado seedling that is almost 6' tall from Huertesbanana seeds. I also believe eugenia calycina and "Orange CORG" can cross pollinate each other and I have those all within 10' of each other.
They take readily to cleft grafting.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tropical Guava - coincidence or something else?
« on: May 02, 2023, 08:15:00 PM »
I have not noticed any fruit development changes from bagging, personally. I believe the energy to fuel the fruit is always from roots / leaves. You can sometimes get a kind of blush from the sun on the fruit themselves, but it is not make or break for fruit eating quality.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mulberry Fruit Comparison
« on: May 02, 2023, 08:13:54 PM »Quote
I heard Persian mulberry supposes to have the best, but create a mess when dropping on the ground since it is extremely juicy
I also have Persian, it is blue raspberry sour delicious. REALLY tasty, but yes, insanely messy and much juicier. You cannot pick it ripe without it kind of smushing. It really is a deep dark purple where as Pakistani is sort of pinkish (Himalayan even more pink).
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mulberry Fruit Comparison
« on: May 02, 2023, 02:26:36 PM »Kaz, since you are growing the most varieties, which of them has the most aroma when eaten?
I may not have as many as Kaz but from trying / owning: Tice, Pakistani, Himalayan, Dwarf, World's Best, and White... Pakistani is still a stand out overall.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What pineapple guava should i grow?
« on: May 02, 2023, 01:57:24 PM »
Get an improved coolidge, nikita, etc from a nursery then top work it with some NZ types They take very well to cleft grafting. They have nice 5 gallon ones here at Home Depot for $35-$45 usually but I am sure not quite the same stock in Manitoba!
I grafted a ton of those NZ types up and can't say much about their flavor... But I did have some coolidge and nikita last year off my grafts and they were yum. I cannot express adequately how much productivity improves when there is diversity. I never got fruit off the tree till I grafted it.
I grafted a ton of those NZ types up and can't say much about their flavor... But I did have some coolidge and nikita last year off my grafts and they were yum. I cannot express adequately how much productivity improves when there is diversity. I never got fruit off the tree till I grafted it.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherry of Rio grande no fruits
« on: May 02, 2023, 01:54:53 PM »
That should work great. I hope for you as well!
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherry of Rio grande no fruits
« on: May 01, 2023, 03:15:11 PM »
I read about this a lot, people who don't get any fruits from their CORGs. I also didn't get any fruit until they were literally right beside each other, touching, and I also grafted many varieties to the same tree. I would recommend at the very least cross-grafting them. You'll get flowers on the grafts next year if they are over chopstick diameter.
I get hundreds of flowers and almost all of them result in sets now. I got zero fruit when I just had one that was flowering.
I get hundreds of flowers and almost all of them result in sets now. I got zero fruit when I just had one that was flowering.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: PGA (Psidium Growers Association) - thread all about psidiums!
« on: April 30, 2023, 11:16:25 AM »Anyone has got orange fleshed guava variety here?
Regards
Jet
Yes, I have an orange flesh guajava.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Paulista ?
« on: April 29, 2023, 10:26:32 AM »
A tree that size is likely rooted out nicely in that pot and will drink a lot on hot days. I tend to judge my watering by the first few inches of soil for jabos. I tend to not let them dry out UNLESS they have not fully rooted into that area. For my big sabara in a water tote (100g+ pot) I water it right around the trunk every hot day, and once a week around the original rootball in the wider non-rooted area. Seems to work so far.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: PGA (Psidium Growers Association) - thread all about psidiums!
« on: April 28, 2023, 07:06:08 PM »
Unknown guava from Wildlands Nursery
Guineese
"Skittles" - kicked ass during winter and snow, didn't drop any leaves at all
Cas Guava survived! Coming back from down below
Orange Guajava lost a LOT of growth to frost, at least a 1 foot on each branch but it's coming back from exactly where I clipped it back to. Should be fruitful as it flowers on new growth.
"Skittles" grafted to guajava appears to be a go
Ok not really psidium, but these NZ cultivar grafts on my pineapple guava are coming out! I thought they all failed due to rain.
Long Leaf guava got burnt pretty bad. I'm leaving it alone and will clip the dead stuff beyond where it sprouts from
Fern leaf from Wildlands looking real nice. I bought some more seeds of it, I really like the look.
Guineese
"Skittles" - kicked ass during winter and snow, didn't drop any leaves at all
Cas Guava survived! Coming back from down below
Orange Guajava lost a LOT of growth to frost, at least a 1 foot on each branch but it's coming back from exactly where I clipped it back to. Should be fruitful as it flowers on new growth.
"Skittles" grafted to guajava appears to be a go
Ok not really psidium, but these NZ cultivar grafts on my pineapple guava are coming out! I thought they all failed due to rain.
Long Leaf guava got burnt pretty bad. I'm leaving it alone and will clip the dead stuff beyond where it sprouts from
Fern leaf from Wildlands looking real nice. I bought some more seeds of it, I really like the look.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mulberry Fruit Comparison
« on: April 27, 2023, 04:05:16 PM »
My mulberries are something else this year. Himalayan looks really good too, got those from Brad a few years back. The white mulberry is mind blowing with how much fruit is in it.
Does anyone net their whole tree? I am tempted for the Pakistani / Himalayan rather than bagging
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cocktail Trees
« on: April 27, 2023, 03:51:52 PM »
Update on that multi grafted plum I did up
All but two scions worked. Love the Spicy Z foliage in dark red
All but two scions worked. Love the Spicy Z foliage in dark red
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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: AKME Gardens 2021 - Loquat Listings (Scions, Custom Grafting Services and more)
« on: April 26, 2023, 06:42:37 PM »Adam has not been online on this forum since December 9th (logged in anyways).
Why would he want to destroy his business? Doesn't make sense.
He did print a usps shipping label for me February 16th, but no movement.
Could be in the hospital or worse.
I would put that down as "has been active as recently as December 9th"
It would appear it's been a source of income for the guy, and a lucrative one at that espeically when you don't have to send product or anything. One part of me wants to feel bad about a dude who got in over his head financially, or health wise, and with a bunch of orders in the middle... But continuing to take money and not communicate, and have the gall to connect to the forum and not say a word? Not honorable.
He would get a lot more slack if he were here at the very least posting about why things are the way they are, and even more if he simply returned the money to people. I cannot fathom being out hundreds of dollars or even a thousand.
One of the parts of the fruit community I love is the people, and this leaves a bad taste.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cocktail Trees
« on: April 26, 2023, 03:02:49 PM »
Those look awesome drymifolia! I think you will be stoked to do some photo taking. I love looking back on my photo albums to see how things have progressed over the years. This is especially important when I am kinda bumming in winter that everything looks like dead sticks and I'm taking frost damage and losses.
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