Author Topic: Jaboticaba sabara update (Read 21168 times)

Mike T · « **on:** August 20, 2012, 06:50:10 AM »

A couple of weeks ago I showed a flowering event with my jaboticaba sabaras.The fruit are developing in abundance.

GwenninPR · « **Reply #1 on:** August 20, 2012, 07:41:21 AM »

Looks great! Congratulations!

Berto · « **Reply #2 on:** August 20, 2012, 09:49:52 AM »

Mike,
Get the water going! Every day! The fruits will get very large! Water, Water, and then a little more water!

Central Floridave · « **Reply #3 on:** August 20, 2012, 04:13:50 PM »

What? A jaboticaba thread without an asaffron reply? His internet connection must be down... LOL...

Congrats! I keep trying to get my trees to bloom this time of year, but they only like to do it in the spring for some reason. I'm going to try the wood-ash trick the next couple of days to see if I can force them to flower.

Saltcayman · « **Reply #4 on:** August 20, 2012, 04:26:37 PM »

Very Nice Mike!!

fyliu · « **Reply #5 on:** August 20, 2012, 05:14:39 PM »

What's the wood ash trick? Sounds interesting. Do you smoke the tree into production?

Central Floridave · « **Reply #6 on:** August 20, 2012, 05:19:47 PM »

supposedly two cups of wood ash scattered under a mature tree helps it flower. I think it was in Whitman's book 5 decades of tropical fruit. I've done it before and it worked, or it was coincidental. I'll experiment again with it.

fruitlovers · « **Reply #7 on:** August 20, 2012, 06:33:51 PM »

Wood ash is high in potassium. Potassium helps to trigger flowering. I guess that biochar would also work?

luc · « **Reply #8 on:** August 20, 2012, 06:41:56 PM »

Quote from: fruitlovers on August 20, 2012, 06:33:51 PM

Wood ash is high in potassium. Potassium helps to trigger flowering. I guess that biochar would also work?

I'll have to try that on my M . aureana , over 2 meters and nothing yet , aren't they supposed to be fast fruiting , after the " precose " ....

fruitlovers · « **Reply #9 on:** August 20, 2012, 07:31:19 PM »

Quote from: luc on August 20, 2012, 06:41:56 PM

Quote from: fruitlovers on August 20, 2012, 06:33:51 PM
Wood ash is high in potassium. Potassium helps to trigger flowering. I guess that biochar would also work?

I'll have to try that on my M . aureana , over 2 meters and nothing yet , aren't they supposed to be fast fruiting , after the " precose " ....

Yes the white jabo. is supposed to be fast, almost as fast as precocious hybrid.

fyliu · « **Reply #10 on:** August 21, 2012, 02:58:26 AM »

Worth a try. I've only heard about wiping ash on plant wounds to protect against germs and bugs. Maybe it's like that burning the wound trick in movies.

Central Floridave · « **Reply #11 on:** August 21, 2012, 01:32:09 PM »

Keep in mind wood ash is a liming agent and jaboticaba prefer acidic conditions. So use in small amounts. Maybe the wood ash shocks the tree into flowering somehow.

Here is a good basic knowledge link on wood ash:

http://www.hort.purdue.edu/ext/woodash.html

fruitlovers · « **Reply #12 on:** August 21, 2012, 04:52:23 PM »

Quote from: Central Floridave on August 21, 2012, 01:32:09 PM

Keep in mind wood ash is a liming agent and jaboticaba prefer acidic conditions. So use in small amounts. Maybe the wood ash shocks the tree into flowering somehow.

Here is a good basic knowledge link on wood ash:

http://www.hort.purdue.edu/ext/woodash.html

If you mix in some organic material, like compost, at same time you use the wood ashes then that will offset any raise in pH, as compost, and any other organic material, will lower pH.

Ethan · « **Reply #13 on:** August 22, 2012, 12:20:56 AM »

Beautiful tree Mike, congrats on all the fruits. Do you have to protect the fruit from birds or mammals? How old is the tree?

Cant wait for the ripe fruit update,
-Ethan

Mike T · « **Reply #14 on:** August 22, 2012, 03:54:19 AM »

There have been some ripening in the last 2 days and it is hard to capture just how many there are.

Mike T · « **Reply #15 on:** August 22, 2012, 05:31:18 PM »

Those 2 pictured trees are about 7 and 8 years old and kept to 3m.Birds and flying foxes get a few but leave enough so it is not an issue.The fruit are abundant on small branches and close to the tips as well.

ScottR · « **Reply #16 on:** August 22, 2012, 11:19:16 PM »

Mike, just beautiful trees!!! Now how's the taste?

Mike T · « **Reply #17 on:** August 24, 2012, 04:23:14 PM »

They taste really good being sweet and fat now.I had a few pluckers getting into the ripest ones yestrday and they reported the fruit were better off one tree than the second big tree.The nice tasting one was fertlized with 10:10:10 and micros a few months ago but the other tree did not get fertilized.

tropical66 · « **Reply #18 on:** August 24, 2012, 11:22:55 PM »

Mike, Wonderful tree you have there...try making some Jaboticaba fruit enzyme. Maybe it taste good.

FlyingFoxFruits · « **Reply #19 on:** September 01, 2012, 07:59:13 PM »

a tip from the Jabo Ghost,

discarded skins of jabo are one of best fertilizers jabo.

They encourage an entire ecological process that is beneficial from seedling germination, up to healthy mature trees.

BOO!

Mike T · « **Reply #20 on:** September 01, 2012, 09:59:46 PM »

I have had a series of human flying foxes over and the jabs have defeated them all and left them bloated.I see flower buds forming for the next crop and both big sabara trees are totally spazzing out.

Tim · « **Reply #21 on:** September 05, 2012, 02:58:12 PM »

Very impressive looking, MikeT. Production from your tree may be able to keep up with my appetite

Mike T · « **Reply #22 on:** October 08, 2012, 11:26:56 AM »

Tim the 3 sabaras I have are flowering again already and the grimal santo jab is getting in on the act as well.It is flowers everywhere in the garden right now.

Recher · « **Reply #23 on:** October 08, 2012, 12:50:41 PM »

In theory

I have 78 fruiting jaboticabas including several Sabara. These are all spread all over the place and overall production from Sabara has been disappointing. Hard to see much difference between Sabara and normal jabots.

Mike T · « **Reply #24 on:** October 08, 2012, 04:20:48 PM »

Recher sabara is just the common small leafed jab in australia and the most common nearly everywhere.The larger leaf is M.santo santensis var grimal.Adam is the jab whizz here and has cleared up ID's.The genus should actually be plinia.My sabaras produce vast quantities of fruit repeatedly and thrive on neglect.Until a couple of years ago they produced only maybe 3 crops a year.My yellow jabs will soon volunteeer for mulch patrol in the absence of action.

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Author Topic: Jaboticaba sabara update (Read 21168 times)