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Pandan

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Want: superior lulo / naranjilla cultivars
« on: March 16, 2021, 02:25:38 PM »
In title: I want better naranjilla fruit than what is commonly found on US seed market.

Any ideas where i can get some?


I found some names of improved commercial(?) varieties from equador with names like "dulce" and "baeza"
http://repiica.iica.int/docs/B3457e/b3457e.pdf
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Re: Want: superior lulo / naranjilla cultivars
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2021, 09:11:17 AM »

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Re: Want: superior lulo / naranjilla cultivars
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2021, 06:12:40 AM »
ECHO in Ft. Meyers, FL grow a spinless variety. The normal spiny type is horrendously covered in thorns. Even if the fruit quality wasn't absolutely the best(which I don't know never tried one from their type) the lack of thorns is a huge plus.
Trying to grow it all!

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Re: Want: superior lulo / naranjilla cultivars
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2021, 02:36:29 PM »
I bought some of those seedlings from Camilo in that post. They certainly are the super spiky ones, but hopefully good fruit

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Re: Want: superior lulo / naranjilla cultivars
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2021, 05:08:10 AM »
I have been battling the thorny sour ones in my yard for years. They pop up everywhere years after you had plants. I have never had one that isn't sour and can be eaten out of hand. I have heard people talk about types that can be eaten out of hand but has anyone here ever tried really good lulos?

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Re: Want: superior lulo / naranjilla cultivars
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2021, 06:59:03 AM »
The only one we ever grew was the one from ECHO. It was thornless (as stated above) and fuzzy. As I recall, it was tart but not so sour that you could not eat it out of hand. I have never eaten any others, so I don't know how it compairs.

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Re: Want: superior lulo / naranjilla cultivars
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2021, 10:59:19 AM »
I have been battling the thorny sour ones in my yard for years. They pop up everywhere years after you had plants. I have never had one that isn't sour and can be eaten out of hand. I have heard people talk about types that can be eaten out of hand but has anyone here ever tried really good lulos?
Shame, it seems like a plant prime for improvement.

I saw cacn offering one that had one with sweet meat and sour inside, which I imagine makes it kumquat like. I sent them a message, haven't gotten a response yet but I think theyre on vacation so I may send another. Hopefully they see this post or someone who's had a good one does.

I hopefully won't have to worry too much about invasiveness as my area is pretty cold for a subtropical plant (USDA 8b).

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Re: Want: superior lulo / naranjilla cultivars
« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2021, 11:33:53 AM »
any luck?

looking too

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Re: Want: superior lulo / naranjilla cultivars
« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2021, 02:47:25 PM »
any luck?

looking too

I think Cacn1987 from the linked post would be our best bet on this forum. They haven't responded to a message I sent them yet.
The link: https://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=41741.msg411003#msg411003

I'll keep searching some South American sources among other for an improved type as well. From the few searches I've done Equador seems the most keen on improving the species (?)

It should be of note one of the more common lulos in commercial production down there is the 'puyo hybrid' and the improved 'palora hybrid' which are crosses between a lulo & cocona and are propogated vegetatively - https://hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/proceedings1999/v4-379.html

other info of note: "For a domesticated plant it shows very little variability. In Colombia and Central America the plants usually have prickles on the stems and leaves whereas in Ecuador plants are unarmed. Several cultivars are recognized in Ecuador, based on slight differences in fruits."

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Re: Want: superior lulo / naranjilla cultivars
« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2021, 10:18:23 PM »
I will have have seeds soon.

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Re: Want: superior lulo / naranjilla cultivars
« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2021, 01:20:38 PM »
I will have have seeds soon.

So Brian, how'd it go with your seeds?  More details, please.  Are they from one of the Ecuadorean varieties?

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Re: Want: superior lulo / naranjilla cultivars
« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2021, 02:32:02 PM »
I have a couple extra cocona plants at the moment

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Re: Want: superior lulo / naranjilla cultivars
« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2021, 02:43:14 PM »
I've had great germ rate from BL's lulo seeds.

Seedlings are small, but look kinda hairy.

Also have a larger plant from cutting, sourced from forum member. Hairy too. About 18 - 24 inches. No flowers yet.


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Re: Want: superior lulo / naranjilla cultivars
« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2021, 06:40:27 PM »
I have a couple extra cocona plants at the moment
How is the flavor?

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Re: Want: superior lulo / naranjilla cultivars
« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2021, 09:02:28 PM »
I have a couple extra cocona plants at the moment
How is the flavor?

it is one of the favorite and common fruits of peru- unfortunately I had to harvest mine unripe but luckily was able to get some mature seeds

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Re: Want: superior lulo / naranjilla cultivars
« Reply #15 on: October 02, 2021, 08:56:32 PM »
The "commercial" type of Lulo that I purchased from Camilo last year has been flowering and setting fruit. Fruit are bigger than a golf ball so far. If they end up tasting good like the parent fruit then I should be able to make seeds available.





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Re: Want: superior lulo / naranjilla cultivars
« Reply #16 on: October 02, 2021, 10:50:23 PM »
Lookin good so far! keep us updated  ;D